Atari fights to keep Dragon Ball Z

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Post by caejones » Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:40 am

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I believe the capcom possibility was discussed in episode 101 of the podcast...
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Post by SonEric84 » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:43 pm

caejones wrote:
DBZ Vs SF...
Mugen. Windows 95. 30 mb. Google. Enjoy.

I believe the capcom possibility was discussed in episode 101 of the podcast...

I use to have a Mugen game someone made a long time ago...but I don't remember how it works.

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Post by Bardock the Mexican » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:49 pm

If Atari had done the right thing and done somthing other than Dragonball Z games, this wouldn't be an issue. They painted themselves into the proverbial corner by only making DBZ games. For any company to do somthing like this would be financial suicide, but for them it hasn't been the case yet. I think that if anything remotely positive could be said about this, then it would be that they will be going into other game franchises and branching out.
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Post by Thanos6 » Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:55 pm

Bardock the Mexican wrote:If Atari had done the right thing and done somthing other than Dragonball Z games, this wouldn't be an issue. They painted themselves into the proverbial corner by only making DBZ games. For any company to do somthing like this would be financial suicide, but for them it hasn't been the case yet. I think that if anything remotely positive could be said about this, then it would be that they will be going into other game franchises and branching out.
They have been. Godzilla, anyone?
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Post by Bardock the Mexican » Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:01 pm

Thanos6 wrote: They have been. Godzilla, anyone?
Which was only one game and not at all like the other DBZ based games they have made. One non DBZ game does not show that they have any sign of improving or learning from their mistakes.
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Post by Thanos6 » Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:10 pm

Bardock the Mexican wrote:
Thanos6 wrote: They have been. Godzilla, anyone?
Which was only one game and not at all like the other DBZ based games they have made. One non DBZ game does not show that they have any sign of improving or learning from their mistakes.
Actually, it's a franchise. They're about to release their third console game and second handheld.
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Post by Xyex » Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:59 pm

JohnnyBoy_Z wrote:Good news. I guess they finally realised how crappy all these recent DBZ fighters have been. Here's hoping Capcom gets the licensed. 8) Then maybe we'll get to see some good qualilty Dragon Ball fighters.
Do people even know what a publisher is? Anyone? Apparently not since I see these kinds of comments a lot. Atari does not make the games at all. If Capcom gets the liscense for publishing we'll still get exactly the same games we got through Atari, the logo will just change. All Atari does is localize the game (translations and such) and release it here for us to purchase. They have zero to do with development.
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Post by SonEric84 » Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:24 pm

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JohnnyBoy_Z wrote:Good news. I guess they finally realised how crappy all these recent DBZ fighters have been. Here's hoping Capcom gets the licensed. 8) Then maybe we'll get to see some good qualilty Dragon Ball fighters.
Do people even know what a publisher is? Anyone? Apparently not since I see these kinds of comments a lot. Atari does not make the games at all. If Capcom gets the liscense for publishing we'll still get exactly the same games we got through Atari, the logo will just change. All Atari does is localize the game (translations and such) and release it here for us to purchase. They have zero to do with development.
Guess I misread what everyone was saying...cause I did know that. :lol: DBZ VS. Capcom will remain a dream.

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Post by Victator Supreme » Tue Nov 06, 2007 4:39 pm

Then maybe we'll get to see some good qualilty Dragon Ball fighters.
We already are.

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Post by Maphisto86 » Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:59 pm

Xyex wrote: Do people even know what a publisher is? Anyone? Apparently not since I see these kinds of comments a lot.
Well I'm sure most of us here know that but I hear your frustration Xyex. A lot of people constantly whine about Atari making the game when they clearly do not :x. Anyway, I doubt we will see any serious backlash yet. This corporate mess is going to go on behind closed doors at least for a little while I imagine.

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Post by MajinVejitaXV » Tue Nov 06, 2007 11:52 pm

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Then maybe we'll get to see some good qualilty Dragon Ball fighters.
We already are.
Eh, I won't argue that they're not fun, but I wouldn't label them as fighters in the strictest sense. Sparking is more of an action game, like Virtual On, than a fighter. And while the Budokai games were fighters, they felt very simplistic. Sort of a "baby's first fighter" game, no offense. Then again, I think fighter and I automatically jump back to the golden days of Street Fighter II (Super Turbo Plus Alpha Zeta Omega Ultra Mega With Cheese: The New Challengers' Toenails).

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Post by Orochi_Rockman » Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:56 am

I'm at work, so I can't listen to the Podcast. So...does this mean that the United States is at risk of not seeing a release of Sparking Meteor?

This can't actually be can it? I'm no fan of Atari but come on.... the release date is less than a week away.

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Post by Maphisto86 » Fri Nov 09, 2007 5:27 pm

Obviously it will be released. People who pre ordered the game are already recieving it. It is too late to cancel a product so close to release and it would probably be financially detrimental to both Atari and FUNImation if it was not released. The only real consequence I see of this legal wrangling on BT 3 is that this title could be the last one released by Atari. If so then it's availability in the future could also be negligable. For now though it will definitley be in stores.

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Post by wolf » Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:40 pm

Atari or not, I'm kinda sick of seeing all these fighting game sequels. I would rather see something new. And if another company did get Dragonball, they would probably release the same type of games Atari has because Atari doesn't make the games; they're just the US distributor for the US. Bandai is the distributor for most of the Dragonball games in Japan.

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Post by Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece » Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:56 am

SonEric84 wrote:
caejones wrote:
DBZ Vs SF...
Mugen. Windows 95. 30 mb. Google. Enjoy.

I believe the capcom possibility was discussed in episode 101 of the podcast...

I use to have a Mugen game someone made a long time ago...but I don't remember how it works.
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Post by Thanos6 » Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:45 am

I've always wanted a Final Fight type game, with, say, Goku as the "all-around" type, Vegeta as the "strength" type, and Piccolo as the "speed type."
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Post by Rory » Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:04 pm

Thanos6 wrote:I've always wanted a Final Fight type game, with, say, Goku as the "all-around" type, Vegeta as the "strength" type, and Piccolo as the "speed type."
..Transformation?

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Post by Thanos6 » Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:05 pm

Rory wrote:
Thanos6 wrote:I've always wanted a Final Fight type game, with, say, Goku as the "all-around" type, Vegeta as the "strength" type, and Piccolo as the "speed type."
..Transformation?
Is that one of those GT games? I don't do GT.
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Post by Rory » Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:06 pm

Thanos6 wrote:
Rory wrote:
Thanos6 wrote:I've always wanted a Final Fight type game, with, say, Goku as the "all-around" type, Vegeta as the "strength" type, and Piccolo as the "speed type."
..Transformation?
Is that one of those GT games? I don't do GT.
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