"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Professor Freeza]

That's hakai energy, not the smartest move Toppo

Why post just one pic?

https://twitter.com/DB_super2015/status ... 0576585729 Here's the rest.

It seemed like the only most interesting one..

Hardly. Why is Freeza so desperate?

And that is truly Hakai. No doubt. Doesnt that amount to kill?

[Ki Breaker]

Why post just one pic?

https://twitter.com/DB_super2015/status ... 0576585729 Here's the rest.

It seemed like the only most interesting one..

Hardly. Why is Freeza so desperate?

And that is truly Hakai. No doubt. Doesnt that amount to kill?

Doesn't seem to be desperate enough if he is still in his final form..

As for the hakai, I think Toppo is shown using it to fully convey the god of destruction transformation..
It's the same situation as Piccolo's SBC and Krillin's kienzan spam

[Professor Freeza]

It seemed like the only most interesting one..

Hardly. Why is Freeza so desperate?

And that is truly Hakai. No doubt. Doesnt that amount to kill?

Doesn't seem to be desperate enough if he is still in his final form..

Knocked out of Golden?

[Ki Breaker]

Hardly. Why is Freeza so desperate?

And that is truly Hakai. No doubt. Doesnt that amount to kill?

Doesn't seem to be desperate enough if he is still in his final form..

Knocked out of Golden?

Eeh, doesn't seem to be the case, only happens when he is out of stamina and his power went down significantly, and if that was the case he shouldn't be here anymore, being dead and all..

[MrBlackFox]

Why post just one pic?

https://twitter.com/DB_super2015/status ... 0576585729 Here's the rest.

It seemed like the only most interesting one..

Hardly. Why is Freeza so desperate?

And that is truly Hakai. No doubt. Doesnt that amount to kill?

Toppo could easily lose control over his reason like happened to Kale in berserker, maybe he never experienced GoD powers before and cannot control them yet
Theory time: what if he'll be disqualified after he erases Frieza?
Though I'm pretty sure will not happen, never, Frieza controlling hakai Energy back in the previous recruiting episodes is definitely a plot point and we'll see this again in this episode, I bet

[Lord Frieza]

That's hakai energy, not the smartest move Toppo

Somehow......I think this is gonna hurt a lot more then Sidra's



Also while it could kill, we've seen that it can be stopped and controlled. So if Toppo can maintain his control he could just badly damage his foes rather then just kill them outright.

Edit: Also this is pretty good evidence to counter any doubts about Toppo wielding god ki (since even in the manga only beings with god ki have it) and also puts another tick in the "Toppo is possible GoD level" chart.

[Birusu16]

Doesn't seem to be desperate enough if he is still in his final form..

As for the hakai, I think Toppo is shown using it to fully convey the god of destruction transformation..
It's the same situation as Piccolo's SBC and Krillin's kienzan spam

He's probably in his final form because Toppo likely beat the hell out of him, which caused him to drop out of his Golden form. He's clearly damaged in the preview pic and his eyes are bloodshot.

[Pannaliciour]

Damm FighterZ doing fantastic (this is for pc only let alone the consoles) most played fighting game in history of steam!

https://www.pcgamesn.com/dragon-ball-fi ... yer-counts

For reference Xenoverse had about 20.000 peak players FighterZ 44.000

[Legion]

I don't think that is hakai. Toppo know that he can't kill his opponent. Maybe this time it's just the same energy ball that Beerus used against Goku.

Even if is hakai, we know that is not strong as the real hakai, so...

[Nickolaidas]

Damm FighterZ doing fantastic (this is for pc only let alone the consoles) most played fighting game in history of steam!

https://www.pcgamesn.com/dragon-ball-fi ... yer-counts

For reference Xenoverse had about 20.000 peak players FighterZ 44.000

Wrong thread bud.

[Pannaliciour]

That's hakai energy, not the smartest move Toppo

Somehow......I think this is gonna hurt a lot more then Sidra's



Also while it could kill, we've seen that it can be stopped and controlled. So if Toppo can maintain his control he could just badly damage his foes rather then just kill them outright.

He is hakaiing something els. Rocks or a blast from Freeza.

[MrBlackFox]

Doesn't seem to be desperate enough if he is still in his final form..

As for the hakai, I think Toppo is shown using it to fully convey the god of destruction transformation..
It's the same situation as Piccolo's SBC and Krillin's kienzan spam

He's probably in his final form because Toppo likely beat the hell out of him, which caused him to drop out of his Golden form. He's clearly damaged in the preview pic and his eyes are bloodshot.

LOL this
No flame, but I ask myself why people are asking why Frieza is not Golden, it's pretty obvious Toppo will use him to clean the floor

I also think this episode will be an authentic orgasm for every Frieza fan, will definitely be his best performance yet, today

[Birusu16]

I don't think that is hakai. Toppo know that he can't kill his opponent. Maybe this time it's just the same energy ball that Beerus used against Goku.

Even if is hakai, we know that is not strong as the real hakai, so...

It's exactly what Sidra used against Freeza, which is energy of destruction. It's not a real hakai, but rather destruction energy in the form of a ball. It's pretty much the same as a normal hakai (though clearly not as powerful) in its function, which is erasing anything it hits from existence.

[MrBlackFox]

I don't think that is hakai. Toppo know that he can't kill his opponent. Maybe this time it's just the same energy ball that Beerus used against Goku.

Even if is hakai, we know that is not strong as the real hakai, so...

It's exactly what Sidra used against Freeza, which is energy of destruction. It's not a real hakai, but rather destruction energy in the form of a ball. It's pretty much the same as a normal hakai (though clearly not as powerful) in its function, which is erasing anything it hits from existence.

This, but there is a difference, Sidra's henchman was using a small portion of hakai Energy, while here we have a true GoD so there will be more and more power

[Ki Breaker]

[spoiler][/spoiler]
That's hakai energy, not the smartest move Toppo

Somehow......I think this is gonna hurt a lot more then Sidra's

[spoiler][/spoiler]

Also while it could kill, we've seen that it can be stopped and controlled. So if Toppo can maintain his control he could just badly damage his foes rather then just kill them outright.

If Freeza indeed is dropping out of his golden form not because he wanted to but he was forced to, then this is probably gonna be the reason, he is gonna survive the hakai but is gonna be badly injured..
Freeza being dead with a time limit isn't gonna help him either, he is probably vanishing off the stage soon enough now..

You know what would be great? Freeza taking Toppo down with him before vanishing off the arena and by taking down I mean killing Toppo off, disqualification dosen't mean shit if you aren't alive anymore..
Taking down a god of destruction counts as a point scored in the short span of his revival as well, that would be a good conclusion of his revival..

[Lord Frieza]

And people honestly thought Toppo was weak once upon a time....

Glade that ideas been hakaied now. Feel the full destructive power of justice nonbelievers!!!!

[Birusu16]

And people honestly thought Toppo was weak once upon a time....

Glade that ideas been hakied now. Feel the full destructive power of justice nonbelievers!!!!

He wasn't weak, but he certainly wasn't GoD level strong before. This is clearly a new power that he manages to awaken due to being cornered and nearly eliminated by Freeza and 17. Probably some deep hidden potential that he has due to being chosen as the next GoD.

[Ki Breaker]

Probably some deep hidden potential that he has due to being chosen as the next GoD.

Most likely he was chosen as the future God because he had this deep hidden potential

[Legion]

I don't think that is hakai. Toppo know that he can't kill his opponent. Maybe this time it's just the same energy ball that Beerus used against Goku.

Even if is hakai, we know that is not strong as the real hakai, so...

It's exactly what Sidra used against Freeza, which is energy of destruction. It's not a real hakai, but rather destruction energy in the form of a ball. It's pretty much the same as a normal hakai (though clearly not as powerful) in its function, which is erasing anything it hits from existence.

We'll see in the episode. Sidra wanted to kill Frieza, so it's different. I don't think that Toppo is so stupid.

[Lord Frieza]

And people honestly thought Toppo was weak once upon a time....

Glade that ideas been hakied now. Feel the full destructive power of justice nonbelievers!!!!

He wasn't weak, but he certainly wasn't GoD level strong before. This is clearly a new power that he manages to awaken due to being cornered and nearly eliminated by Freeza and 17. Probably some deep hidden potential that he has due to being chosen as the next GoD.

What I refer to is people taking his line out of contexts. Toppo detractors used his "I'm not shore I could beat him" line to infer that Toppo was not as powerful as he was made out to be. Compeletly negeltecting Goku's own missgivings on who would be the winner between them bespite haveing SSBKKx20 up his sleeve.

Toppo was always very strong but Toppo The God of Destcution is the final nail in that idea.