"Dragon Ball Super" FUNimation Dub Official Discussion Thread

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Post by nato25 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:05 am

FoolsGil wrote:I can't believe Funi allowed the line to stay in place that Bulma knew Future Trunks' hair was blue. Like c'mon guys.
I came here to say this same point! Of all the little changes they make they couldn't swap out this line for something else...

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Post by nato25 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:13 am

Kaio_Krazy wrote:I am really enjoying this, everyone was on point this episode. Black sounded fantastic, so now I am gonna be a little disappointed when his British alter ego pops up, but I'll live. Can I just say that Korin saying "Now drop a phat beat" may be my favorite thing ever.

Are people basing this off fighterz and xenoverse or has there been a leak because its pretty clear Schemmel has gone with a new direction in the dub (and very much for the better). His laugh was awesome when Trunks first hit him. Only negative was he went way too far normal goku on the its over trunks line.

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Post by Kataphrut » Sun Jan 28, 2018 8:34 am

Oh god, I forgot about all the Pilaf shenanigans in this arc. At least Chuck Huber made that shopping channel bit fun. Rapid fire comedy like that is always hard to dub, but the writers and actor made it work seamlessly. Gonna be weird when we get to the Universe Survival Arc and he clocks off as Pilaf and on as Android Hiei.

This was a daggy episode, but a good dub. Goku Black and Future Trunks are both sounding great. It's funny watching this alongside playing FighterZ because I'm switching between this version of Goku Black and the accented version. Both are well acted, and I'm starting to notice hints of the refined voice in this version. Maybe the transition idea can work.

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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:08 am

Ok I'm sold on Schemmel's Black now, how he handles the Rose form is another story but if he can refine the base voice (which has improved by the dropping of the chain smoker-like voice) I have confidence he can do the same again.

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Post by Kanassa » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:13 am

nato25 wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I can't believe Funi allowed the line to stay in place that Bulma knew Future Trunks' hair was blue. Like c'mon guys.
I came here to say this same point! Of all the little changes they make they couldn't swap out this line for something else...
Why would they change that line? Just to confuse Dub fans when the GOhan flashback happens?
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by FoolsGil » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:16 am

Kanassa wrote:
nato25 wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I can't believe Funi allowed the line to stay in place that Bulma knew Future Trunks' hair was blue. Like c'mon guys.
I came here to say this same point! Of all the little changes they make they couldn't swap out this line for something else...
Why would they change that line? Just to confuse Dub fans when the GOhan flashback happens?
Dub fans are already confused, Kid Trunks has Purple Hair, Future Trunks has Blue Hair, The last time Bulma saw Future Trunks he had Purple Hair, she's pretending he's had Blue Hair the entire time, and lastly Z Flashbacks show him with Purple Hair.

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:46 am

Kanassa wrote:
nato25 wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:I can't believe Funi allowed the line to stay in place that Bulma knew Future Trunks' hair was blue. Like c'mon guys.
I came here to say this same point! Of all the little changes they make they couldn't swap out this line for something else...
Why would they change that line? Just to confuse Dub fans when the GOhan flashback happens?
As if the line didn’t confuse people to begin with?

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Post by Scsigs » Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:37 pm

FoolsGil wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
nato25 wrote:
I came here to say this same point! Of all the little changes they make they couldn't swap out this line for something else...
Why would they change that line? Just to confuse Dub fans when the Gohan flashback happens?
Dub fans are already confused, Kid Trunks has Purple Hair, Future Trunks has Blue Hair, The last time Bulma saw Future Trunks he had Purple Hair, she's pretending he's had Blue Hair the entire time, and lastly Z Flashbacks show him with Purple Hair.
Hell, SUB FANS are still confused by it. I don't even know if Super's trying to be a sequel to the manga, the Z anime, or Kai (since it takes bit & pieces from all 3), but then they throw THIS mess into the equation. Just make his hair purple like kid Trunks. It won't be confusing when they're in the same shots if that's what they're worried about. They're the same basic character, but trust the people in the audience to be able to tell the difference through the context presented.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:02 pm

I predict this is the artwork they will probably use for Part 4. Wonder what colour scheme it will be. Part 1 was Red for SSG, Part 2 purple for Freeza, Part 3 for SSGSS, Part 4, black for well Goku Black? And then maybe green or pink for Part 5.

Also this Goku Black figure came just in time for this arc!:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

Anyway top moments I am looking forward to (spoiler'd just incase):

[spoiler].Trunks meeting Gohan.
.Black transforming.
.Goku's explosion of rage.
.Ikari Trunks.
.Beerus killing present Zamasu.
.Anything with Merged Zamasu.[/spoiler]

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Post by HeroR » Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:02 pm

Scsigs wrote:
FoolsGil wrote:
Kanassa wrote: Why would they change that line? Just to confuse Dub fans when the Gohan flashback happens?
Dub fans are already confused, Kid Trunks has Purple Hair, Future Trunks has Blue Hair, The last time Bulma saw Future Trunks he had Purple Hair, she's pretending he's had Blue Hair the entire time, and lastly Z Flashbacks show him with Purple Hair.
Hell, SUB FANS are still confused by it. I don't even know if Super's trying to be a sequel to the manga, the Z anime, or Kai (since it takes bit & pieces from all 3), but then they throw THIS mess into the equation. Just make his hair purple like kid Trunks. It won't be confusing when they're in the same shots if that's what they're worried about. They're the same basic character, but trust the people in the audience to be able to tell the difference through the context presented.
Bulma's hair color is different from both the anime and manga, yet no one commented on it. For some reason, fans act like Trunks' hair is the only dye job.

As Toriyama freely admitted in an interview, he doesn't give a damn about color constancy since he doesn't see it as important.
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Post by FoolsGil » Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:53 pm

HeroR wrote:
Bulma's hair color is different from both the anime and manga, yet no one commented on it. For some reason, fans act like Trunks' hair is the only dye job.

As Toriyama freely admitted in an interview, he doesn't give a damn about color constancy since he doesn't see it as important.
#1 Bulma's hair never changed from purple to teal when the first episode showed her. Even going from Z/Kai to Super, teal is still a color variant of blue. compared to Future Trunks who went from one actual color to another.

#2 Just because Toriyama doesn't care, doesn't mean we don't have to care. And if you don't care, fine whatever.

#3 Kid Trunks' hair is still purple. it's still a stupid decision to have the same character from two different timelines having two different colors. At least tell the Toei animators to turn Kid Trunks' hair blue in the first episode of Super.

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Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:16 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Also this Goku Black figure came just in time for this arc!:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Really, Vegetto Gold, in front of a bunch of Goku and Vegeta Blues? That's just weird.
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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:29 pm

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Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Also this Goku Black figure came just in time for this arc!:
[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
Really, Vegetto Gold, in front of a bunch of Goku and Vegeta Blues? That's just weird.
Aha, he's so big no where else to put him! Had him for ages though, didn't fancy getting any of the big Vegetto Blue's since he only made a cameo didn't feel it was worth it.

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Post by Scsigs » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:32 pm

HeroR wrote:Bulma's hair color is different from both the anime and manga, yet no one commented on it. For some reason, fans act like Trunks' hair is the only dye job.

As Toriyama freely admitted in an interview, he doesn't give a damn about color consistency since he doesn't see it as important.
1. No one gives 2 shits about Bulma's hair color difference. It was originally meant to be purple & only Path to Power got it right. Her name is supposed to be Romanized as "Bluma/Blooma" but no one cares about that either, not even Toriyama, since he romanized it HIMSELF as "Bulma" in the manga. The reason no one's throwing a fit about it is because it's not a continuity error within the anime shows & movies. Her hair started out a shade of teal, now it's blue, but n one cares because it's close enough & doesn't present any problems.
2. Trunks' hair was supposed to be the same color as Bulma's in the manga, but it was already set in stone in the anime. If it was supposed to be blue, it should've been colored that way back in the 90s to match Bulma's, but I don't think the animators knew who he was at the time. Plus, kid Trunks still has the purple hair, so it's both a continuity error AND an inconsistency in the show itself. If kid Trunks has blue hair, Future Trunks should as well. It only draws attention to itself because of the visual inconsistency. Everyone ELSE is perfectly on-point with their colors, so HE should be too.
3. I don't think Toriyama gives a shit about ANYTHING Dragon Ball related anymore, given some of the story & character decisions he's made, as well as letting the anime staff make. He just comes up with plots & lets the storytellers of the anime & manga go to town. In any case, his not caring about color consistency was ok for the manga, since it was always in black & white & Toriyama has always issues keeping a consistent continuity within Dragon Ball anyways. This is an anime TV series. Colors are ALWAYS part of anything animated & keeping a consistent continuity of coloring going is one of the things the animators need to do. Toriyama only does the storylines & character designs, so his input means jackshit to the animation staff passed the character designs & any new outfits they may have. Hair colors & the designs of their costumes from the past shows should be already known to them & they should be able to keep those consistent.
And even then, someone actually corrected Toriyama when he was drawing some of the character designs for Battle of Gods, since he forgot 18 was a blonde & kid Trunks' hair was purple, so I have NO idea why he thought that Future Trunks having blue hair was acceptable, or why the animators or producers did. It's a continuity gaff with the past shows & movies, it breaks this show's internal continuity just by itself, & it's a bad decision. If anything, one of the anime staff should've pointed out everything I just did & they should've corrected it before the episodes aired. If you honestly don't see this as a problem, you don't get how new TV shows in an established franchise should work.
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Post by puar » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:18 pm

i dont mind the voice anymore but whats up with those horrible dub changes?

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Post by Kaio_Krazy » Sun Jan 28, 2018 4:31 pm

nato25 wrote:
Kaio_Krazy wrote:I am really enjoying this, everyone was on point this episode. Black sounded fantastic, so now I am gonna be a little disappointed when his British alter ego pops up, but I'll live. Can I just say that Korin saying "Now drop a phat beat" may be my favorite thing ever.

Are people basing this off fighterz and xenoverse or has there been a leak because its pretty clear Schemmel has gone with a new direction in the dub (and very much for the better). His laugh was awesome when Trunks first hit him. Only negative was he went way too far normal goku on the its over trunks line.
Sean himself confirmed he'll be switching to the British accent, when Black goes Rose', on a Reddit AMA a few days ago. There was some drama over it too, if you look back a few pages you can see what happened. Whether or not they go back and change this before that episode comes out remains to be seen, but considering these episodes were recorded months ago, and re-recording due to fan backlash would create needless work, it seems very unlikely that would be the case.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Jan 29, 2018 4:46 am

Kaio_Krazy wrote:
nato25 wrote:
Kaio_Krazy wrote:I am really enjoying this, everyone was on point this episode. Black sounded fantastic, so now I am gonna be a little disappointed when his British alter ego pops up, but I'll live. Can I just say that Korin saying "Now drop a phat beat" may be my favorite thing ever.

Are people basing this off fighterz and xenoverse or has there been a leak because its pretty clear Schemmel has gone with a new direction in the dub (and very much for the better). His laugh was awesome when Trunks first hit him. Only negative was he went way too far normal goku on the its over trunks line.
Sean himself confirmed he'll be switching to the British accent, when Black goes Rose', on a Reddit AMA a few days ago. There was some drama over it too, if you look back a few pages you can see what happened. Whether or not they go back and change this before that episode comes out remains to be seen, but considering these episodes were recorded months ago, and re-recording due to fan backlash would create needless work, it seems very unlikely that would be the case.
He said the "accent" is more refined and not British. So it still remains to be seen what it sounds like.

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Post by shadowmaria » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:40 am

Hints of the different Rosé voice were coming through this episode with base Black

It’ll probably be the same as we’ve always heard Rosé, and no amount of complaining is going to change this. As a result, we may as well get used to it

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Post by DB_Fan1991 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:42 am

I remember everyone complaining about Chris Ayres’ Freeza when we first heard him now he’s one of the most beloved dub voices.
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Post by nato25 » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:46 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
Kaio_Krazy wrote:
nato25 wrote:

Are people basing this off fighterz and xenoverse or has there been a leak because its pretty clear Schemmel has gone with a new direction in the dub (and very much for the better). His laugh was awesome when Trunks first hit him. Only negative was he went way too far normal goku on the its over trunks line.
Sean himself confirmed he'll be switching to the British accent, when Black goes Rose', on a Reddit AMA a few days ago. There was some drama over it too, if you look back a few pages you can see what happened. Whether or not they go back and change this before that episode comes out remains to be seen, but considering these episodes were recorded months ago, and re-recording due to fan backlash would create needless work, it seems very unlikely that would be the case.
He said the "accent" is more refined and not British. So it still remains to be seen what it sounds like.
Thanks for that. I cant say I'm not dissapointed because Gokus voice doesnt come through at all in his accent performance of rose in Fighterz. However at least its in line with him changing voices slightly for each form of ssj.

Hopefully he brings in more Goku and tones down the accent a bit because i love how Black sounds atm.

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