Why a next generation series should be a PRIORITY

[Totamo]

I don't understand why some people feel the transition would have to be instant. Nobody in their right mind wants to start a new series and erase the old characters from the cast. Just like characters like Launch, Oolong, Roshi and Yajirobe fell into irrelevancy and made way for characters like Gohan, Piccolo and Vegeta, so would the older characters give way for Pan, Oob & co. Dragon Ball has always functioned like this, it replaces old characters, whose arcs are over, with new ones.

I can't understand how some think this is a new idea.

Plus, if you're so desperate to keep what you consider Dragon Ball's essence, you can still have Goku in a central position even with a rejuvenated cast.

Oh you damn well Z's transition was instant. You didn't even see Launch once in z until the end of the series.

[dbgtFO]

Oh you damn well Z's transition was instant. You didn't even see Launch once in z until the end of the series.

She appeared in some Saiyan Arc episodes, but in the manga her last appearance really was at the 23rd Tournament.

[coola]

Only character i wish to be removed, is Chi-Chi, i can't stand her..other than that, I'm fine with Goku and old cast be main focus, but..move past End of Z please

[TekTheNinja]

Only character i wish to be removed, is Chi-Chi, i can't stand her..other than that, I'm fine with Goku and old cast be main focus, but..move past End of Z please

After End of Z, to have series where Uub is mostly ignored would be kinda dumb. That's one of the huge issues with GT.

[coola]

Only character i wish to be removed, is Chi-Chi, i can't stand her..other than that, I'm fine with Goku and old cast be main focus, but..move past End of Z please

After End of Z, to have series where Uub is mostly ignored would be kinda dumb. That's one of the huge issues with GT.

I'm really curious how they gonna move to end of Z, after meeting with fighters from other Universes, having Goku be excited for someone at Kid Buu level is little strange.

[BlueBasilisk]

Only character i wish to be removed, is Chi-Chi, i can't stand her..other than that, I'm fine with Goku and old cast be main focus, but..move past End of Z please

After End of Z, to have series where Uub is mostly ignored would be kinda dumb. That's one of the huge issues with GT.

I'm really curious how they gonna move to end of Z, after meeting with fighters from other Universes, having Goku be excited for someone at Kid Buu level is little strange.

I don't think it's so strange. Goku's excited because he asked for Kid Buu to be reincarnated as someone good so they could fight again and he's getting his chance. Plus from what we've seen, Uub is going to get very strong very fast as Goku trains him so who knows how high he can go?

[majinwarman]

Only character i wish to be removed, is Chi-Chi, i can't stand her..other than that, I'm fine with Goku and old cast be main focus, but..move past End of Z please

Why do you hate Chi-Chi so much? She is a great wife who raised two great sons and manages to keep Goku in check. I don't know about you but I would love a character like that. She knows Goku and her sons are stronger than her but she manages to put fear in them when need be. She shows that no matter how strong you are, she won't back down from you. She even attacked Super Buu when she thought he killed Gohan. That is a sign of a mother who would do anything for her son. I don't understand the hate for Chi-Chi.

[coola]

Only character i wish to be removed, is Chi-Chi, i can't stand her..other than that, I'm fine with Goku and old cast be main focus, but..move past End of Z please

Why do you hate Chi-Chi so much? She is a great wife who raised two great sons and manages to keep Goku in check. I don't know about you but I would love a character like that. She knows Goku and her sons are stronger than her but she manages to put fear in them when need be. She shows that no matter how strong you are, she won't back down from you. She even attacked Super Buu when she thought he killed Gohan. That is a sign of a mother who would do anything for her son. I don't understand the hate for Chi-Chi.

I like her too, but in manga, when Toriyama toned down her "control freak soccer mom" attidute, i always hated that type of character, even when it was played for laugh, like in some comedy TV shows, it was never funny for me, but rather made me feel annoyed, that others allowed themselves getting push around.

[majinwarman]

Only character i wish to be removed, is Chi-Chi, i can't stand her..other than that, I'm fine with Goku and old cast be main focus, but..move past End of Z please

Why do you hate Chi-Chi so much? She is a great wife who raised two great sons and manages to keep Goku in check. I don't know about you but I would love a character like that. She knows Goku and her sons are stronger than her but she manages to put fear in them when need be. She shows that no matter how strong you are, she won't back down from you. She even attacked Super Buu when she thought he killed Gohan. That is a sign of a mother who would do anything for her son. I don't understand the hate for Chi-Chi.

I like her too, but in manga, when Toriyama toned down her "control freak soccer mom" attidute, i always hated that type of character, even when it was played for laugh, like in some comedy TV shows, it was never funny for me, but rather made me feel annoyed, that others allowed themselves getting push around.

But, it is suppose to show that Chi-Chi wouldn't let Goku or her sons do whatever they want. It brings an element of realism in that family. What mother wants her son and husband to fight and die? It shows that even though they don't care if they die there is someone they need to come back home to.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I think a main issue fans who want this aren't taking into account is that Goku is DB. DB has been around for nearly 35 years and its been soley about Goku. You cannot take something like that and completely change the face of it as that's what everyone knows it to be.

Batman and other superheroes have been around for 80 years and everyone young and old still love them so why would people out of nowhere drop Goku ? if kids can get into characters as old as batman and superman they can't get into Goku who's been arounf for less than half that time ?

You can of course do a TV special or limited series with different characters (next gen, past stories, etc.) but when it comes to MAIN DB, that's and always will be Goku.

DB is also written in a way that allows new fans to jump right in and once they like what they see they'll probably jump back and watch what they missed so it's not like DB can't bring in new fans. DB's current popularity is higher than it was when its manga was in publication so that should tell you something about Goku's power to bring in viewers.

Right. I was actually talking to someone the other day who had seen DBS since #1 but hadn't seen anything DB related before except for the ResF film, and their thoroughly enjoying it just fine. Got me thinking there must be more people like this out there. Like how most of us jumped into Z without DB obviously unknowingly at the time but we still enjoyed that series just fine.

I think the other problem with a new gen is how do you write their characters? Right now DB is known for it's unique characters are they gonna write the next gen as generic ass heroes? Or rip off characters like having Uub be a cheerful goof like Goku?

A new DB series and the key vision is Uub in the centre... I am sorry but I can't see people many being excited for that at all.

[sintzu]

A new DB series and the key vision is Uub in the centre... I am sorry but I can't see people many being excited for that at all.

The only way I can see a non Goku and Freinds show work is if it's a limited 12-25 episode special between main series and even then it'd be a hard sell.

[Acetona]

I have watched Boruto and the last jedi and if dragon ball goes that route, I will immediately dropped it.

Comparing strictly the anime and not the manga, I think Boruto is MILES better than Shippuden. Granted I don't watch it regularly (I'm currently at episode 10), but I'm liking everything about the series. The manga, on the otherhand, feels underwhelming. But I don't know if Toei could pull this well with DB.

I would be ok with a next gen Dragon Ball, it's just that I would like they didn't try to recreate old scenes and plot points (oh, I'm totally not talking about Super lol). It should be its own thing.

edit:

Say what you will, but there is no DB without Goku. He'll never be a sidecharacter.

So... apparently, Cell arc isn't DB, right?

[SsjCookie]

Only character i wish to be removed, is Chi-Chi, i can't stand her..other than that, I'm fine with Goku and old cast be main focus, but..move past End of Z please

Why do you hate Chi-Chi so much? She is a great wife who raised two great sons and manages to keep Goku in check. I don't know about you but I would love a character like that. She knows Goku and her sons are stronger than her but she manages to put fear in them when need be. She shows that no matter how strong you are, she won't back down from you. She even attacked Super Buu when she thought he killed Gohan. That is a sign of a mother who would do anything for her son. I don't understand the hate for Chi-Chi.

Most people resent Chichi because she's so overbearing most of the time.
In DBS she has mellowed a bit, but in DBZ she was horrible and unreasonable most of the time.

But the best reason people hate her is that she turned Gohan into a bookworm who totally forgets about training, and Goten isn't allowed to do anything besides studying.

[mute_proxy]

Say what you will, but there is no DB without Goku. He'll never be a sidecharacter.

So... apparently, Cell arc isn't DB, right?

Goku was never left aside. He was the reason Gohan became what he became. He pushed the story forward. He even sacrificed himself (because his son fucked up) to save everyone. He was the reason the Androids and Cell even happened. Goku connects everything in every arc, he's the backbone of DB.

[majinwarman]

I have watched Boruto and the last jedi and if dragon ball goes that route, I will immediately dropped it.

Comparing strictly the anime and not the manga, I think Boruto is MILES better than Shippuden. Granted I don't watch it regularly (I'm currently at episode 10), but I'm liking everything about the series. The manga, on the otherhand, feels underwhelming. But I don't know if Toei could pull this well with DB.

I would be ok with a next gen Dragon Ball, it's just that I would like they didn't try to recreate old scenes and plot points (oh, I'm totally not talking about Super lol). It should be its own thing.

edit:

Say what you will, but there is no DB without Goku. He'll never be a sidecharacter.

So... apparently, Cell arc isn't DB, right?

You don't understand that the next generation haven't been built up to take over for Goku. In order for it to work, there needs to be a slow build towards it. Then, when the time is right you can make someone else take the spotlight.

[julianix]

Nah I can't stand goten and trunks as it Is. Uub is a little interesting but that's it. None of these kids know the struggle. They are all spoiler brats besides uub. Thats what people want to see? Sorry but I don't want to see that at all.

[TekTheNinja]

Nah I can't stand goten and trunks as it Is. Uub is a little interesting but that's it. None of these kids know the struggle. They are all spoiler brats besides uub. Thats what people want to see? Sorry but I don't want to see that at all.

Wow, way to judge characters, most o which who have literally never had the chance to face much adversity, for "not knowing the struggle". Why does everyone miss the point despite it being stated several times? MAKE these characters feel the struggle and they can be great. This isn't an instant whiplash change idea. It's the concept of gradually developing characters who haven't been developed but have potential. Ya know, the very thing that was always great about Dragon Ball but absent in Super because in Super no one ever grows or learns anything.

[Whatever]

Nah I can't stand goten and trunks as it Is. Uub is a little interesting but that's it. None of these kids know the struggle. They are all spoiler brats besides uub. Thats what people want to see? Sorry but I don't want to see that at all.

Wow, way to judge characters, most o which who have literally never had the chance to face much adversity, for "not knowing the struggle". Why does everyone miss the point despite it being stated several times? MAKE these characters feel the struggle and they can be great. This isn't an instant whiplash change idea. It's the concept of gradually developing characters who haven't been developed but have potential. Ya know, the very thing that was always great about Dragon Ball but absent in Super because in Super no one ever grows or learns anything.

Why should we waste time on those characters again?We have lots of characters who are better,the cast is already big enough,no need for more.
Goten and Trunks got their chance and they turned out to be a big waste of time,so no thanks,no need to waste our time again.
So saying give them the chance and they can be great is false.
So since they managed to develop Roshi and Freeza,then its possible to advance our current characters more.

[Grimlock]

Goten and Trunks got their chance and they turned out to be a big waste of time,so no thanks,no need to waste our time again.

You mean Majin Buu saga Goten and Trunks? 7 and 8 years respectively? If so, then yes, we do need to waste our time with them again, only that they have to act accordingly to their ages (as of now, they're teenagers, but if we're talking about post end of Z, then they would be 17 and 18, respectively), their personalities aren't fully developed since end of Z was too short, so a whole new spin can be taken with them.

[Whatever]

Goten and Trunks got their chance and they turned out to be a big waste of time,so no thanks,no need to waste our time again.

You mean Majin Buu saga Goten and Trunks? 7 and 8 years respectively? If so, then yes, we do need to waste our time with them again, only that they have to act accordingly to their ages (as of now, they're teenagers, but if we're talking about post end of Z, then they would be 17 and 18, respectively), their personalities aren't fully developed since end of Z was too short, so a whole new spin can be taken with them.

Gohan was only like 4-5 years old during the Saiyan-Freeza saga and his development was good during this period,so no their ages were not the problem.