Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:28 pm

Looks like a Tate/Manabe finale. It has to be. Can't believe others have gotten rotated before them. Crazy.

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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:29 pm

The staff list for the rest of February is out:

127:
Script: Ken’ichi Yamashita
Animation Supervisors: Masahiro Shimanuki & Hiroyuki Itai
Storyboard: Kazuya Karasawa & Masanori Satō
Director: Takahiro Imamura

128:
Script: Toshio Yoshitaka
Animation Supervisors: Yūji Hakamada & Osamu Ishikawa
Storyboard: Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Director: Masanori Satō

129:
Script: Atsuhiro Tomioka
Animation Supervisors: Koji Nashizawa & Hirotaka Nii
Director: Masato Mitsuka

Not what I would expect for 129, but the list is weird. Yamamuro is credited as a storyboarder for 128 after he had done for the 2nd half of 126. Sato is a storyboarder of 2nd half for this upcoming episode, but is an episode director for 128. Ideally, it should have been Yamamuro for 129 and have Sato be both storyboarder and director for 128.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Post by GhoulEto » Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:42 pm

It's not weird, it's shit, because there are other series of toei that do not generate close to the money of dbs and they always send them excellents animators ?, this is unfair, and more when we are at the end of the series, toei does not deserve that money.

I do not say that they are going to be shit, but fuck, after this we only have one chapter for them to put on excellent animators, because in 131 it will be the end and there will be no fights.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Post by perucho1990 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:51 pm

Storyboards and directing are going to straight up carry the upcoming 3 episodes.

For 130 I supposed it will be Tate and Shida returning.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Post by Chuquita » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:04 pm

Maybe they figured since it was ending that they wouldn't bother much and sent everyone off to other projects that aren't ending in March? I dunno. I heard Hugtto got a big staff boost for their first 5 episodes. Did they pickup any of Super's animators?

I'll wait for Ajay's video later today.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Post by perucho1990 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:14 pm

Chuquita wrote:Maybe they figured since it was ending that they wouldn't bother much and sent everyone off to other projects that aren't ending in March? I dunno. I heard Hugtto got a big staff boost for their first 5 episodes. Did they pickup any of Super's animators?

I'll wait for Ajay's video later today.
Then it could be Toriko all over again, with the staff not caring at all for the finale and the main antagonist getting buried, Jiren might meet that fate given how he has been treated so far.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Post by Chuquita » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:17 pm

perucho1990 wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Maybe they figured since it was ending that they wouldn't bother much and sent everyone off to other projects that aren't ending in March? I dunno. I heard Hugtto got a big staff boost for their first 5 episodes. Did they pickup any of Super's animators?

I'll wait for Ajay's video later today.
Then it could be Toriko all over again, with the staff not caring at all for the finale and the main antagonist getting buried, Jiren might meet that fate given how he has been treated so far.
That'd be unfortunate, for the staff to move on before the end proper.

Here's the NewType staff list for Hugtto 2 to 5; anyone familiar from dbs? https://mobile.twitter.com/aers00/statu ... 2495208448
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Post by Ajay » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:25 pm

Chuquita wrote:That'd be unfortunate, for the staff to move on before the end proper.

Here's the NewType staff list for Hugtto 2 to 5; anyone familiar from dbs? https://mobile.twitter.com/aers00/statu ... 2495208448
No one from Super, but that's the type of staff list you get when someone asks you, "Hey, what would be your dream staff list scenario?" Like, I almost can't believe it's real. Precure's first few episodes are going to be absolutely insane. Very excited after that promising first episode.


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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Post by DainIronfoot » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:31 pm

majinwarman wrote:
AnimeNation101 wrote:Random Big Prediction Incoming

I have a feeling that Yamamuro will be the animation Supervisor for episode 131. He definetly has had enough time and as much as I hate how he has degraded in terms of the Db quality that we all love, i see that he os slowly improving and I feel like it would fit for him to animate the closing of the series. Or he’ll probabaly just be a key animator for the final battle of DBS.
I think he will probably do clean-up in the big fight if he is going to be working on the final battle. But, I think that Episode 126 was his final episode for him to appear in.

I wouldn't mind Yamamuro being it...if it were the case. However, Ideally, him doing some clean up/KA would be great imo.

Wait, i just saw that he's SB ep 128? Wow, that's interesting. I actually really am interested to see how he develops with SB's. I thought his recent one was great and think if he does something similar for 128, we are going to see some great stuff.

The staff list does seem a bit weird to me though.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Post by AnimeNation101 » Wed Feb 07, 2018 8:51 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Looks like a Tate/Manabe finale. It has to be. Can't believe others have gotten rotated before them. Crazy.
I was just saying that on discord. Tate would have had 13 weeks worth of time while Manabe would have had 15 weeks except for that fact that he has been doing key animation. So I’d take a good 5 weeks away from him still leaving him with 10 weeks to work.

Tate and Manabe would be animation Supervisors with people like Takahashi, Karasawa, and Shida doing key animation.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Post by Asura » Wed Feb 07, 2018 9:31 pm

perucho1990 wrote:Storyboards and directing are going to straight up carry the upcoming 3 episodes.

For 130 I supposed it will be Tate and Shida returning.
It's pretty scary that we're near the last 5 episodes of the tournament, the finale, and you're saying the animation quality is basically going to be terribly mediocre until like, the last two episodes.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Post by majinwarman » Wed Feb 07, 2018 11:31 pm

AnimeNation101 wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Looks like a Tate/Manabe finale. It has to be. Can't believe others have gotten rotated before them. Crazy.
I was just saying that on discord. Tate would have had 13 weeks worth of time while Manabe would have had 15 weeks except for that fact that he has been doing key animation. So I’d take a good 5 weeks away from him still leaving him with 10 weeks to work.

Tate and Manabe would be animation Supervisors with people like Takahashi, Karasawa, and Shida doing key animation.
I hope that they pull something great for us to watch because this production list while not bad isn't what most people expect in a finale.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Feb 08, 2018 12:34 am

Wowzers, that's a bad staff list. The series is just limping along at the usual limp. Those last two episodes better be ingenious now.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Post by Artorias » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:34 am

JulieYBM wrote:Wowzers, that's a bad staff list. The series is just limping along at the usual limp. Those last two episodes better be ingenious now.
I don't really get how it's bad. What were you expecting? The only real surprise to me is Itai with such little time and the Yammy board. Everything else seems within reason, or even great, with good writers and directors mostly.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:45 am

Artorias wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Wowzers, that's a bad staff list. The series is just limping along at the usual limp. Those last two episodes better be ingenious now.
I don't really get how it's bad. What were you expecting? The only real surprise to me is Itai with such little time and the Yammy board. Everything else seems within reason, or even great, with good writers and directors mostly.
I was hoping for better than "Oh shit, we don't have any time and staff so we're all just going to hodge-podge everyone onto the last ten episodes of our show and have nobody directing their own storyboards! Also, we're just going to recycle all of our weakest animation supervisors!" It means we're not going to be getting any surprises in terms of the staff, either.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Post by Artorias » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:47 am

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm a bit annoyed that they're sacrificing the lead up episodes for the sake of blowing their loads on ONE episode. I'd much rather have four or five 8/10 episodes than a bunch of 6's and then one 11. There's no reason to save Tate, Manabe, Takahashi, Shida, and maybe Karasawa ALL for ONE episode. Spread them out.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Post by JulieYBM » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:10 am

Artorias wrote:I don't know about anyone else, but I'm a bit annoyed that they're sacrificing the lead up episodes for the sake of blowing their loads on ONE episode. I'd much rather have four or five 8/10 episodes than a bunch of 6's and then one 11. There's no reason to save Tate, Manabe, Takahashi, Shida, and maybe Karasawa ALL for ONE episode. Spread them out.
I'd rather have one actually good episode than five episodes with no rewatch value. Or thirteen good episodes over fifty bad episodes.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Post by Artorias » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:38 am

JulieYBM wrote:
Artorias wrote:I don't know about anyone else, but I'm a bit annoyed that they're sacrificing the lead up episodes for the sake of blowing their loads on ONE episode. I'd much rather have four or five 8/10 episodes than a bunch of 6's and then one 11. There's no reason to save Tate, Manabe, Takahashi, Shida, and maybe Karasawa ALL for ONE episode. Spread them out.
I'd rather have one actually good episode than five episodes with no rewatch value. Or thirteen good episodes over fifty bad episodes.
Well yes, if the episodes would all be shit, then sure, go ahead and bust a nut on the last one. But like I said, there's a balance you could strike. We could've gotten a final few "good" episodes, which I would've preferred over one AMAZING episode surrounded by largely mundane ones.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:43 am

JulieYBM wrote:Wowzers, that's a bad staff list. The series is just limping along at the usual limp. Those last two episodes better be ingenious now.
Could this explain why Ishikawa/Itai's last episode wasn't good? They were just spread too thin? So strange they got rotated this quick.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

Post by Hawk9211 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 5:58 am

Random question.
Who were the writers for pre tornament episodes(U9) and roshi episodes?
Why power levels are important?
The genre and roots of dragon ball

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