"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
User avatar
majinwarman
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1698
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:50 pm
Location: Freeza Planet 1

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by majinwarman » Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:07 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:Regardless if the manga ends in this arc or not, I hope they don't force Toyotaro to rush everything.
I couldn't care less about his BOG/Champa arcs, but one of the reasons why I often check the FT Trunks arc is because he took his time in making something that's worth to go back and read again.

As for Volume 5, it's scheduled to be released on 02 March so the Volume cover should be revealed soon.
Though I do have a problem on how he used Future Trunks. He did nothing in the manga and sit back to let Vegeta and Goku to do everything for him. I at least appreciate that Toei tried to make Trunks do something and not be a bystander.
Majinwarman
So I'm 'evil', huh? Interesting."
A world without Dragon Ball is just meh.

User avatar
FortuneSSJ
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 5938
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:07 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by FortuneSSJ » Mon Feb 12, 2018 2:26 pm

majinwarman wrote: Though I do have a problem on how he used Future Trunks. He did nothing in the manga and sit back to let Vegeta and Goku to do everything for him. I at least appreciate that Toei tried to make Trunks do something and not be a bystander.
:lol: :lol: I have the same opinion.

What I meant is that his FT Trunks arc has enough content that can make me go back and read it again, while his BOG/Champa arc are rushed and failed to be memorable.
I wasn't talking which one is better.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.

Favourite old DB Animators: Masaki Sato and Tadayoshi Yamamuro
Favourite new DB Animators: Yuya Takahashi and Chikashi Kubota

User avatar
OLKv3
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1822
Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:39 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by OLKv3 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:07 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:
majinwarman wrote: Though I do have a problem on how he used Future Trunks. He did nothing in the manga and sit back to let Vegeta and Goku to do everything for him. I at least appreciate that Toei tried to make Trunks do something and not be a bystander.
:lol: :lol: I have the same opinion.

What I meant is that his FT Trunks arc has enough content that can make me go back and read it again, while his BOG/Champa arc are rushed and failed to be memorable.
I wasn't talking which one is better.
But he DID do stuff in the manga. You're just angry he didn't get a power boost. He still accomplished the exact same things he accomplished in the anime, including saving Goku and Vegeta's lives multiple times.
And if the last chapter is any indication, I have a feeling the ToP might be rushed, especially if V-Jump wants DBS done

Neon Z
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1152
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:34 am

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Neon Z » Mon Feb 12, 2018 3:52 pm

OLKv3 wrote: But he DID do stuff in the manga. You're just angry he didn't get a power boost. He still accomplished the exact same things he accomplished in the anime, including saving Goku and Vegeta's lives multiple times.
And if the last chapter is any indication, I have a feeling the ToP might be rushed, especially if V-Jump wants DBS done

Would they really want it done though? I got the impression that the manga gaining more pages after the initial chapters meant there was reader interest.

Namz
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 102
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2017 6:34 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Namz » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:42 pm

majinwarman wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:Regardless if the manga ends in this arc or not, I hope they don't force Toyotaro to rush everything.
I couldn't care less about his BOG/Champa arcs, but one of the reasons why I often check the FT Trunks arc is because he took his time in making something that's worth to go back and read again.

As for Volume 5, it's scheduled to be released on 02 March so the Volume cover should be revealed soon.
Though I do have a problem on how he used Future Trunks. He did nothing in the manga and sit back to let Vegeta and Goku to do everything for him. I at least appreciate that Toei tried to make Trunks do something and not be a bystander.
Toei did that, but all incoherently. There was no logical way Trunks would actually be able to hit Black as he did in the anime.

User avatar
majinwarman
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1698
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:50 pm
Location: Freeza Planet 1

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by majinwarman » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:23 am

OLKv3 wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:
majinwarman wrote: Though I do have a problem on how he used Future Trunks. He did nothing in the manga and sit back to let Vegeta and Goku to do everything for him. I at least appreciate that Toei tried to make Trunks do something and not be a bystander.
:lol: :lol: I have the same opinion.

What I meant is that his FT Trunks arc has enough content that can make me go back and read it again, while his BOG/Champa arc are rushed and failed to be memorable.
I wasn't talking which one is better.
But he DID do stuff in the manga. You're just angry he didn't get a power boost. He still accomplished the exact same things he accomplished in the anime, including saving Goku and Vegeta's lives multiple times.
And if the last chapter is any indication, I have a feeling the ToP might be rushed, especially if V-Jump wants DBS done
I'm not mad about him not getting a power-up but I wanted him to fight for his future and not let Goku and Vegeta do it for him. I know he saved them two times but it still felt like he wasn't relevant in his arc.
Majinwarman
So I'm 'evil', huh? Interesting."
A world without Dragon Ball is just meh.

User avatar
Miracles
I Live Here
Posts: 3787
Joined: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:31 am

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Miracles » Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:27 am

Namz wrote:Toei did that, but all incoherently. There was no logical way Trunks would actually be able to hit Black as he did in the anime.
Trunks hit Black "off guard." :lol:

User avatar
Totamo
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1885
Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:24 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Totamo » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:04 am

OLKv3 wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote:
majinwarman wrote: Though I do have a problem on how he used Future Trunks. He did nothing in the manga and sit back to let Vegeta and Goku to do everything for him. I at least appreciate that Toei tried to make Trunks do something and not be a bystander.
:lol: :lol: I have the same opinion.

What I meant is that his FT Trunks arc has enough content that can make me go back and read it again, while his BOG/Champa arc are rushed and failed to be memorable.
I wasn't talking which one is better.
But he DID do stuff in the manga. You're just angry he didn't get a power boost. He still accomplished the exact same things he accomplished in the anime, including saving Goku and Vegeta's lives multiple times.
And if the last chapter is any indication, I have a feeling the ToP might be rushed, especially if V-Jump wants DBS done
I don't Toyo is rushing it, I think Toei just dragged it.

User avatar
OLKv3
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1822
Joined: Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:39 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by OLKv3 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:12 am

Totamo wrote:
OLKv3 wrote:
FortuneSSJ wrote: :lol: :lol: I have the same opinion.

What I meant is that his FT Trunks arc has enough content that can make me go back and read it again, while his BOG/Champa arc are rushed and failed to be memorable.
I wasn't talking which one is better.
But he DID do stuff in the manga. You're just angry he didn't get a power boost. He still accomplished the exact same things he accomplished in the anime, including saving Goku and Vegeta's lives multiple times.
And if the last chapter is any indication, I have a feeling the ToP might be rushed, especially if V-Jump wants DBS done
I don't Toyo is rushing it, I think Toei just dragged it.
Eh. In comparison to the chapter before it, last chapter felt kinda rushed

User avatar
Totamo
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1885
Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:24 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Totamo » Tue Feb 13, 2018 9:42 am

OLKv3 wrote:
Totamo wrote:
OLKv3 wrote: But he DID do stuff in the manga. You're just angry he didn't get a power boost. He still accomplished the exact same things he accomplished in the anime, including saving Goku and Vegeta's lives multiple times.
And if the last chapter is any indication, I have a feeling the ToP might be rushed, especially if V-Jump wants DBS done
I don't Toyo is rushing it, I think Toei just dragged it.
Eh. In comparison to the chapter before it, last chapter felt kinda rushed
You have to explain what you mean?

User avatar
perucho1990
I Live Here
Posts: 2361
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:04 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by perucho1990 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:24 am

Namz wrote:
Toei did that, but all incoherently. There was no logical way Trunks would actually be able to hit Black as he did in the anime.
Just mention that Trunks broke his limits(which foreshadows Vegeta kawai blue transformation) due to training with Vegeta and having that hybrid potential.

Btw any news when we will get the chapter spoilers?

Neon Z
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1152
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:34 am

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Neon Z » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:22 pm

Totamo wrote:You have to explain what you mean?
In the first chapter, Kuririn, 18 and 17 got full on panel recruitment scenes, while everyone else aside from Freeza got it done off-screen, and even Freeza got his battle with Goku skipped.

I don't think it was rushed though, Toyotaro just had some odd priorities, like multiple pages for Freeza's nightmare.

User avatar
LightBing
I Live Here
Posts: 4031
Joined: Thu Feb 14, 2013 7:47 am

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by LightBing » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:29 pm

The start of the fight will be really important to set the tone.
I hope we get quite a few eliminations already in the form of cocky characters biting more than they can chew and someone powering up sweeping them out of the arena.

User avatar
Professor Freeza
Temporarily Banned
Posts: 449
Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:21 am

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Professor Freeza » Tue Feb 13, 2018 2:43 pm

Neon Z wrote:
Totamo wrote:You have to explain what you mean?
In the first chapter, Kuririn, 18 and 17 got full on panel recruitment scenes, while everyone else aside from Freeza got it done off-screen, and even Freeza got his battle with Goku skipped.

I don't think it was rushed though, Toyotaro just had some odd priorities, like multiple pages for Freeza's nightmare.
Toyotaro put that in because the Official Super Manga doesnt have the Resurrection F arc. Toyo had to put the recap story somewhere

User avatar
majinwarman
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1698
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:50 pm
Location: Freeza Planet 1

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by majinwarman » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:15 pm

Professor Freeza wrote:
Neon Z wrote:
Totamo wrote:You have to explain what you mean?
In the first chapter, Kuririn, 18 and 17 got full on panel recruitment scenes, while everyone else aside from Freeza got it done off-screen, and even Freeza got his battle with Goku skipped.

I don't think it was rushed though, Toyotaro just had some odd priorities, like multiple pages for Freeza's nightmare.
Toyotaro put that in because the Official Super Manga doesnt have the Resurrection F arc. Toyo had to put the recap story somewhere
Toyotaro still didn't show anything about Gohan. I think he just found him to unimportant to the story and didn't want to show how he gained back his strength.
Majinwarman
So I'm 'evil', huh? Interesting."
A world without Dragon Ball is just meh.

User avatar
JazzMazz
I Live Here
Posts: 2217
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:28 am
Location: Mordor, the Borg cube and Voldemort's lair all at the same time in the year 199X

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by JazzMazz » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:21 pm

majinwarman wrote:
Professor Freeza wrote:
Neon Z wrote:
In the first chapter, Kuririn, 18 and 17 got full on panel recruitment scenes, while everyone else aside from Freeza got it done off-screen, and even Freeza got his battle with Goku skipped.

I don't think it was rushed though, Toyotaro just had some odd priorities, like multiple pages for Freeza's nightmare.
Toyotaro put that in because the Official Super Manga doesnt have the Resurrection F arc. Toyo had to put the recap story somewhere
Toyotaro still didn't show anything about Gohan. I think he just found him to unimportant to the story and didn't want to show how he gained back his strength.
Toyotaro didn't include Gohans training, or so the majority of Freeza's recruitment, because those were things that didn't need to be shown at length. Basically, Toyotaro in the most recent chapter cut out all parts of the recruitment that would cause the story to meander around.

User avatar
majinwarman
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1698
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:50 pm
Location: Freeza Planet 1

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by majinwarman » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:24 pm

JazzMazz wrote:
majinwarman wrote:
Professor Freeza wrote:
Toyotaro put that in because the Official Super Manga doesnt have the Resurrection F arc. Toyo had to put the recap story somewhere
Toyotaro still didn't show anything about Gohan. I think he just found him to unimportant to the story and didn't want to show how he gained back his strength.
Toyotaro didn't include Gohans training, or so the majority of Freeza's recruitment, because those were things that didn't need to be shown at length. Basically, Toyotaro in the most recent chapter cut out all parts of the recruitment that would cause the story to meander around.
I wonder if he is going to off-screen lots of eliminations in this tournament or not. I prefer he shows the fights he thinks are important to show.
Majinwarman
So I'm 'evil', huh? Interesting."
A world without Dragon Ball is just meh.

User avatar
JazzMazz
I Live Here
Posts: 2217
Joined: Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:28 am
Location: Mordor, the Borg cube and Voldemort's lair all at the same time in the year 199X

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by JazzMazz » Tue Feb 13, 2018 3:57 pm

majinwarman wrote:
JazzMazz wrote:
majinwarman wrote: Toyotaro still didn't show anything about Gohan. I think he just found him to unimportant to the story and didn't want to show how he gained back his strength.
Toyotaro didn't include Gohans training, or so the majority of Freeza's recruitment, because those were things that didn't need to be shown at length. Basically, Toyotaro in the most recent chapter cut out all parts of the recruitment that would cause the story to meander around.
I wonder if he is going to off-screen lots of eliminations in this tournament or not. I prefer he shows the fights he thinks are important to show.
Likewise, we don't need to see literally every single warrior get eliminated, and also, not every single warrior needs to fight Universe 7.

User avatar
majinwarman
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1698
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:50 pm
Location: Freeza Planet 1

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by majinwarman » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:00 pm

JazzMazz wrote:
majinwarman wrote:
JazzMazz wrote: Toyotaro didn't include Gohans training, or so the majority of Freeza's recruitment, because those were things that didn't need to be shown at length. Basically, Toyotaro in the most recent chapter cut out all parts of the recruitment that would cause the story to meander around.
I wonder if he is going to off-screen lots of eliminations in this tournament or not. I prefer he shows the fights he thinks are important to show.
Likewise, we don't need to see literally every single warrior get eliminated, and also, not every single warrior needs to fight Universe 7.
I agree with that statement but I did like some of those useless fights. But, I don't really want to see them again at all. Maybe when I rewatch Super in the future.
Majinwarman
So I'm 'evil', huh? Interesting."
A world without Dragon Ball is just meh.

User avatar
TheMikado
Born 'n Bred Here
Posts: 5009
Joined: Sun Jan 17, 2016 1:28 pm

Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by TheMikado » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:01 pm

Totamo wrote:
Omniboy wrote:
Scsigs wrote:quote
I might regret posting this knowing how weird people get in topics when it comes to race, but here it goes.

Firstly, I feel like I have to bring this up in regards to the "Toriyama never did racial caricatures thing." I think I found this image when I lurked this site a little while ago. Keep in mind that this is from Dr. Slump.

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

Secondly, Uub is not black. He is indian. That's why he dosen't share the same facial features as many of Toriyama's black characters. And don't try looking for characters of his that are black that don't have the same features because there are none like that. All of them look like this.


[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]

However, I can say the bottom two are not TOO bad, but they are still obviously based off of blackface.
Does Dragon ball even have black characters though? There are no realife countries there.

But about Popo. I get why they had to do it. The Internet is a very sensitive place and that would have been their heads, but as black man myself, I find it hard to be offended by things that never really affected me. But thats just me and I don't speak for my entire race.

You guys do realize Staff Officer Black was a prominent antagonist

Image

They also completely redesigned him in path to power.

Image

Post Reply