Do fans of the English dub use the SSJ term?

[Kunzait_83]

It's just one of those things that carried over from the late 90s, to be honest. Like "Ultra SSJ" and "Mystic Gohan," these are the terms that existed before the dub even got to the point in the series where it had those particular terms applied.

"Late" 90s? These terms have been around since well long before the FUNimation dub in ANY form existed at all, period. Ultra SSJ goes back to at least 1993, Mystic Gohan '95 or so, and SSJ as an abbreviation since, what, 1992 maybe? If not earlier?

[Dbzfan94]

Ultra SSJ goes back to at least 1993, Mystic Gohan '95 or so, and SSJ as an abbreviation since, what, 1992 maybe? If not earlier?

Yeah I was always curious when USSJ started. Interesting.

[Kunzait_83]

Ultra SSJ was a Curtis Hoffman-ism from the very first (first completed at least) Dragon Ball Manga FAQ. Manga FAQs were how we all (those of us who didn't read Japanese at least) used to consume plot and character details about raw manga that weren't licensed or translated into English in the days before scanlations really took off and became a thing (which would've been around '95/'96 or so at the earliest).

But yeah, Hoffman coined the term for his '93 FAQs about the manga chapters where the form was primarily used (in the island battles against Cell with Vegeta and Trunks), and its stuck around every since then to this day.

SSJ in and of itself as an abbreviation's been kicking around even longer. Roughly as long as Super Saiya-jin as a form has existed, so probably since at least 1991/1992 or so. I started following the anime regularly by the tail-end of '92/beginning of '93, and the term was most definitely around for a decent bit by then. SS was also used as well, but wasn't quite as common IIRC.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Personally I prefer using SS, particularly in light of SSGSS, as ridiculous as it is, when it isn't the even more ridiculous SSJGSSJ.

"SSJG", "SSJR" "SSJB" still also look pretty stupid in my opinion.

Nah, can't really agree and don't see why you say that either. It seems as fine as using "SSJ2" or "SSJ3". Though, I do think SSJGSSJ is excessive but that's a just a problem with that name specifically.

I think it looks awkward even with numbers, in my head saying "SSJ2" when typing sounds awkward "SS2" just sounds much cleaner.

[precita]

To me it's basically the same thing as the people who say Kakarotto or Bejita.

[Robo4900]

To me it's basically the same thing as the people who say Kakarotto or Bejita.

Well, Kakarotto is perfectly valid, it's just different from what most translations use.

Bejita, though... Yeah, that's just straight wrong... And that's kind of how I feel about "SSJ" too. Feels a lot like a "Just according to keikaku" situation.

[TheGreatness25]

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It's just one of those things that carried over from the late 90s, to be honest. Like "Ultra SSJ" and "Mystic Gohan," these are the terms that existed before the dub even got to the point in the series where it had those particular terms applied.

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"Late" 90s? These terms have been around since well long before the FUNimation dub in ANY form existed at all, period. Ultra SSJ goes back to at least 1993, Mystic Gohan '95 or so, and SSJ as an abbreviation since, what, 1992 maybe? If not earlier?

And yet we're talking about dub fans who use the term, so that's what I addressed.

[geralds]

No why even say ssj. Jin has no English translation. If you do properly translate it then all they are saying is super saiyan person. Jin in this case it's just meaning person. It's like how we say your British or your American ect. Japanese would say Japanese person, American person, British person. We would just Japanese, American, or British in Japanese they need to make the distinction so in the long run saying ssj is redundant and unneeded other wise we might as well say I'm American jin or I'm British jin I'm mars jin you get the idea. Japanese is different language it's not how English is conveyed. It's not like we need to say other generally in translateable things like san or kun we don't speak that way so there no reason to e be n say it.

[Robo4900]

No why even say ssj. Jin has no English translation. If you do properly translate it then all they are saying is super saiyan person.

I thought it came out as Super Saiya People.

[Mewzard]

Definitely SSJ. Whether it's a boat or a reference to WWII era Germany, SS is not the ideal choice.

Besides, been using SSJ since the late 90s. Too late to change now, lol.

[geralds]

No why even say ssj. Jin has no English translation. If you do properly translate it then all they are saying is super saiyan person.

I thought it came out as Super Saiya People.

In a literal sense yes. But it has as much wait as when I say this. In English I would say I am American while in Japanese I would say I am American person. Technically while the literal translation is saiyan person. If we say saiyin person we should then say American person Japanese person British person. It's redundant and in this context has no transaction other wise we would literally say in English Super saiyan person every time. We would even go as far as saying earth/human person or saiyan.

[Robo4900]

In a literal sense yes. But it has as much wait as when I say this. In English I would say I am American while in Japanese I would say I am American person. Technically while the literal translation is saiyan person. If we say saiyin person we should then say American person Japanese person British person. It's redundant and in this context has no transaction other wise we would literally say in English Super saiyan person every time. We would even go as far as saying earth/human person or saiyan.

Yeah, I see what you mean. I was just making a joke.
Though, more accruately, I think you'd say you are an America Person, which turns into American in correctly-adapted English. Thus, Super Saiyajin becomes Super Saiyan, which abbreviates to SS, not SSJ.

[geralds]

In a literal sense yes. But it has as much wait as when I say this. In English I would say I am American while in Japanese I would say I am American person. Technically while the literal translation is saiyan person. If we say saiyin person we should then say American person Japanese person British person. It's redundant and in this context has no transaction other wise we would literally say in English Super saiyan person every time. We would even go as far as saying earth/human person or saiyan.

Yeah, I see what you mean. I was just making a joke.
Though, more accruately, I think you'd say you are an America Person, which turns into American in correctly-adapted English. Thus, Super Saiyajin becomes Super Saiyan, which abbreviates to SS, not SSJ.

If you want to get super technical it should be supersaiyanjin or super saiyan jin. Romanized Japanese is so bad. Jin in a nutshell is a different word saying like saiyanjin makes it sound like 1 word which is I correct.

[8000 Saiyan]

Yup, they do.

SS Goku just reminds me of a German boat.

[KBABZ]

Yup, they do.

SS Goku just reminds me of a German boat.

Or Vermillion City!

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/S.S._Anne

[dario03]

I've always noticed SSJ/SSj being used more. But I've always preferred SS. Only time I've ever consistently used SSJ is when referring to Super Saiyan Grade 2 aka Ascended Super Saiyan. Mostly because ASSJ just doesn't seem quite right without the J for some reason

I think either way works fine though and most don't care if you write it the other way. I have actually had some people tell me I should include the j but only a few times.

[Muffin Man]

I guess my brain just kind of treats it like "lb", "oz", "Mrs.", "Rx", and other abbreviations that don't match what they are an abbreviation of.

[OutlawTorn]

I don't particularly care for the abbreviation, either "SSJ" or "SS" so I will typically use "Super Saiyan" (and, yes, I prefer the "Sigh-an" pronunciation). I believe I developed a distaste for most abbreviations because no matter what type of social platform you go to, people always assume that everybody knows exactly what all of he abbreviations mean and it becomes an incomprehensible alphabet soup.