"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Liquir]

I'm interested to see what will Toyotaro do with Dyspo's speed. Will he also use FTL statements for Dyspo or not mention it at all. Also will he use other power scaling attacks like the U2's mini black hole or will he keep it simple to just a straight- out brawl fight..

[Miracles]

Once Toriyama approved Kale, she is now a Toriyama thing.

Then that also qualifies for
Broly
Cooler
Android 13
The entire GT series

I should of continued by stating "in his story."

I'm interested to see what will Toyotaro do with Dyspo's speed. Will he also use FTL statements for Dyspo or not mention it at all. Also will he use other power scaling attacks like the U2's mini black hole or will he keep it simple to just a straight- out brawl fight..

I know the VS nerds like the speed and powers defined but that's never really been Dragonball's style.
I wouldn't care if Toyotaro defined em or not just as long as the tournament is entertaining.

[TKA]

After these new revelations of Toriyama's draft's details, I am even more excited for Toyotaro's run. I didn't enjoy a single thing the anime added in those notes. Since Toyotaro seems to be adhering a bit closer to Toriyama's draft (namely, keeping the focus on universes 7 [and 6] and not pretending the other universes mean much), there's a very good chance this arc could be special.

[JazzMazz]

After these new revelations of Toriyama's draft's details, I am even more excited for Toyotaro's run. I didn't enjoy a single thing the anime added in those notes. Since Toyotaro seems to be adhering a bit closer to Toriyama's draft (namely, keeping the focus on universes 7 [and 6] and not pretending the other universes mean much), there's a very good chance this arc could be special.

You didn't even like the Toei Toriyama esque gag around Ribrianne?

[prince212]

After these new revelations of Toriyama's draft's details, I am even more excited for Toyotaro's run. I didn't enjoy a single thing the anime added in those notes. Since Toyotaro seems to be adhering a bit closer to Toriyama's draft (namely, keeping the focus on universes 7 [and 6] and not pretending the other universes mean much), there's a very good chance this arc could be special.

I am excited about the takami thinking that A.T is setting up further stories . And new stories coming in manga format could be done in a pace that fits better for everybody.
HOPE dbs manga won’t end after t.o.p

[Miracles]

After these new revelations of Toriyama's draft's details, I am even more excited for Toyotaro's run. I didn't enjoy a single thing the anime added in those notes. Since Toyotaro seems to be adhering a bit closer to Toriyama's draft (namely, keeping the focus on universes 7 [and 6] and not pretending the other universes mean much), there's a very good chance this arc could be special.

I am excited about the takami thinking that A.T is setting up further stories . And new stories coming in manga format could be done in a pace that fits better for everybody.
HOPE dbs manga won’t end after t.o.p

Yeah, I'm hoping DBS will continue through the manga.
Toyotaro did say he will be ahead of the anime at one point.

[CJStriker_CBR]

So from the interview it seems like it was toei's idea to make Ribrianne and co into a magical girl parody since Toriyama only designed Ribrianne and not Brianne which was toei. So I'm going to take a guess and say that Ribrianne probably won't be as love obsessed in the manga as she was in the anime. Not that it ever bothered me but I know many didn't like her because of that.

I can't say what will happen in the Manga yet and honestly Manga stories always are written faster then their anime counterparts. The Animes always are able to add in more detail and variety IMO or least in my experience then with the Manga, Manga is good but they tend to keep the story focused and shorter.

However I would not say it was Toriyama intent Not to Make Ribrianne a Magical Girl, just cause he just came-up with her transformed design only is hardly a conclusion that Ribrianne was not meant to have more beyond that 1 look. We have to remember these are team effects and with that Toei and other writers would have likely helped to fill in more backstory and designs for Ribrianne human state which is Brianne is more likely then anything else. We REALLY have to remember that Toei is the House the Build the Magical Girl Franchises more then any other studio with the Likes of Precure and Sailor Moon.

Magical Girls also always have 2 state, their human form and their transformed/powered-up looks, so Ribrianne being a Magical Girl you would need bother designs no matter what.

So their is high-certain chance that Ribrianne was always meant to be a Magical Girl, just Toriyama's job was to come up with the transformed states 1st it seems. The Manga is just shorter to so they get more to the point so they skip the transformations.

With that I certainly hope even if it is just 1 Panel or 1 moment that Toriyama does include Ribrianne's oath and ideals of LOVE being her set of Power cause that is who Ribrianne is and their is MUCH Pride in that with Fans of her's like me cause unlike other fans, Me and others I have meet Liked her LOVE Themed Powers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVz0OkyKok


Again this is not done based on Parodying Magical Girls either alone, but it is Homaging them for those that know them well. I have spent the Last few weeks RE-Watching much Precure online and it should have been clear to me when watching Ribrianne but sometimes I need to remind myself as well, Precures have the Same Style of Love Attacks, a good amount of Supporting the Ideals of Love and Themes of Love in the story. THAT is who Many Magical Girls Are, not all but allot come from some for of Ideals of the Emotional Spectrum of Love and Caring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dcf6X3h13o


Really it will never be everyone's cup of tea style of Power, but if it bothered some then it is just that way, but for others Like Me we Loved it and want to see Ribrianne Keep up those ideals in the Manga cause it is Classic Homaging of Magical Girls and what they represent!

[TheMikado]

Once Toriyama approved Kale, she is now a Toriyama thing.

Then that also qualifies for
Broly
Cooler
Android 13
The entire GT series

I should of continued by stating "in his story."

What do you mean?
All of Dragonball is his story.

[CriticalThinker]

So from the interview it seems like it was toei's idea to make Ribrianne and co into a magical girl parody since Toriyama only designed Ribrianne and not Brianne which was toei. So I'm going to take a guess and say that Ribrianne probably won't be as love obsessed in the manga as she was in the anime. Not that it ever bothered me but I know many didn't like her because of that.

I can't say what will happen in the Manga yet and honestly Manga stories always are written faster then their anime counterparts. The Animes always are able to add in more detail and variety IMO or least in my experience then with the Manga, Manga is good but they tend to keep the story focused and shorter.

However I would not say it was Toriyama intent Not to Make Ribrianne a Magical Girl, just cause he just came-up with her transformed design only is hardly a conclusion that Ribrianne was not meant to have more beyond that 1 look. We have to remember these are team effects and with that Toei and other writers would have likely helped to fill in more backstory and designs for Ribrianne human state which is Brianne is more likely then anything else. We REALLY have to remember that Toei is the House the Build the Magical Girl Franchises more then any other studio with the Likes of Precure and Sailor Moon.

Magical Girls also always have 2 state, their human form and their transformed/powered-up looks, so Ribrianne being a Magical Girl you would need bother designs no matter what.

So their is high-certain chance that Ribrianne was always meant to be a Magical Girl, just Toriyama's job was to come up with the transformed states 1st it seems. The Manga is just shorter to so they get more to the point so they skip the transformations.

With that I certainly hope even if it is just 1 Panel or 1 moment that Toriyama does include Ribrianne's oath and ideals of LOVE being her set of Power cause that is who Ribrianne is and their is MUCH Pride in that with Fans of her's like me cause unlike other fans, Me and others I have meet Liked her LOVE Themed Powers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqVz0OkyKok


Again this is not done based on Parodying Magical Girls either alone, but it is Homaging them for those that know them well. I have spent the Last few weeks RE-Watching much Precure online and it should have been clear to me when watching Ribrianne but sometimes I need to remind myself as well, Precures have the Same Style of Love Attacks, a good amount of Supporting the Ideals of Love and Themes of Love in the story. THAT is who Many Magical Girls Are, not all but allot come from some for of Ideals of the Emotional Spectrum of Love and Caring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dcf6X3h13o


Really it will never be everyone's cup of tea style of Power, but if it bothered some then it is just that way, but for others Like Me we Loved it and want to see Ribrianne Keep up those ideals in the Manga cause it is Classic Homaging of Magical Girls and what they represent!

Sorry for the late reply mate, probably is still to early to say but that's just what I assumed. I guess what I was trying to say was that to me it seems like all Toriyama did was design her and toei saw that design and thought up the idea of having them be a magical girl parody or homage as you said. But probably would have been better for me to wait for the next chapter before I assumed this stuff. I still think Ribrianne will have her love for love it'll just be toned down in the manga like Toppo and his love of justice.

[Kenneth La Torre]

Wow. After reading the current interview, it seems toriyama is at fault for things people hate about the tournament of power (mostly the main antagonists personality).

I feel like they need better collaboration skills. Think things through more carefully.

Anyway, I feel like toyotaro has been doing a good job recently, and I have hopes that he can make the TOP a great arc in the manga (not saying the anime is horrible)

[sintzu]

Wow. After reading the current interview, it seems toriyama is at fault for things people hate about the tournament of power (mostly the main antagonists personality). I feel like they need better collaboration skills. Think things through more carefully.

The only thing Toriyama and Toei's staff do is pat each other on the back for the bare minimum effort they've put into this revival. DB needs new blood if these people don't want to start pushing each other and come up with actual thoughtful plots and characters.

[Kenneth La Torre]

Wow. After reading the current interview, it seems toriyama is at fault for things people hate about the tournament of power (mostly the main antagonists personality). I feel like they need better collaboration skills. Think things through more carefully.

The only thing Toriyama and Toei's staff do is pat each other on the back for the bare minimum effort they've put into this revival. DB needs new blood if these people don't want to start pushing each other and come up with actual thoughtful plots and characters.

Agreed. It’s sad to be honest. This arc had lots of potential. A multiversal tournament, where you have to win or you’ll get erased from existence, and universe 7 has to overcome a being above hakaishin power in order to survive. Sounds decent on paper, but damn, this arc (while I’m enjoying it) has really dissapointed me.

I’m really giving every ounce of hope I have to toyotaro, as he is currently doing a very decent job in my opinion.

[sintzu]

Sounds decent on paper, but damn, (while I’m enjoying it) has really dissapointed me.

This is my feeling on modern DB as a whole, enjoyable if you're a DB fan but also dissapointing cause of all the wasted potential and odd (to say the least) writing choices.

In terms of Toyotarou, although his manga isn't perfect, it's been vastly superior to the anime so far, at least in my opinion.

[Kenneth La Torre]

Sounds decent on paper, but damn, (while I’m enjoying it) has really dissapointed me.

This is my feeling on modern DB as a whole, enjoyable if you're a DB fan but also dissapointing cause of all the wasted potential and odd (to say the least) writing choices.

In terms of Toyotarou, although his manga isn't perfect, it's been vastly superior to the anime so far, at least in my opinion.

Lets just hope that toryotaro keeps going as he’s been lately. Cause while I have hopes, he can still mess up, hopefully not

[TKA]

You didn't even like the Toei Toriyama esque gag around Ribrianne?

Considering that all it amounted to was an episode of transformation sequences that played twice in an episode filled with re-used animation? Nah. Glad Toyotaro isn't incorporating any of that stuff.

[majinwarman]

Sounds decent on paper, but damn, (while I’m enjoying it) has really dissapointed me.

This is my feeling on modern DB as a whole, enjoyable if you're a DB fan but also dissapointing cause of all the wasted potential and odd (to say the least) writing choices.

In terms of Toyotarou, although his manga isn't perfect, it's been vastly superior to the anime so far, at least in my opinion.

I don't think Toyotaou's manga is better than the anime. I see them as both equally enjoyable and flawed.

[Exline]

Sounds decent on paper, but damn, (while I’m enjoying it) has really dissapointed me.

This is my feeling on modern DB as a whole, enjoyable if you're a DB fan but also dissapointing cause of all the wasted potential and odd (to say the least) writing choices.

In terms of Toyotarou, although his manga isn't perfect, it's been vastly superior to the anime so far, at least in my opinion.

I don't think Toyotaou's manga is better than the anime. I see them as both equally enjoyable and flawed.

I will admit that both of them do have some flaws. Although, the anime contributes more to that department compared to the manga. Reading the manga doesn't exactly make most people as angry as they get when watching a bad episode of the anime.

[Spider-Man]

After these new revelations of Toriyama's draft's details, I am even more excited for Toyotaro's run. I didn't enjoy a single thing the anime added in those notes. Since Toyotaro seems to be adhering a bit closer to Toriyama's draft (namely, keeping the focus on universes 7 [and 6] and not pretending the other universes mean much), there's a very good chance this arc could be special.

As well U11, they are important.I also think U4 will be Revelant here,he better not pull a 119 on us.

[Exline]

After these new revelations of Toriyama's draft's details, I am even more excited for Toyotaro's run. I didn't enjoy a single thing the anime added in those notes. Since Toyotaro seems to be adhering a bit closer to Toriyama's draft (namely, keeping the focus on universes 7 [and 6] and not pretending the other universes mean much), there's a very good chance this arc could be special.

As well U11, they are important.I also think U4 will be Revelant here,he better not pull a 119 on us.

What is wrong with fleshing out other universes?

What was the point of creating unique designs for characters if you're just going to waste them...

[Spider-Man]

What is wrong with fleshing out other universes?

What was the point of creating unique designs for characters if you're just going to waste them...

I don't see it happening in the manga but I wouldn't mind some decent screentime for U2,U3 and maybe U9 in this version.U10 on the other hand not seeing a good future from this version.