U7 and U11 both survive?

[Nero<>Akira]

So because of the recent spoilers, does anyone feel that the TOP may actually be a draw with Freeza and Jiren? And the omni kings spare them since time runs out?

[ToshioWrites]

And Nobody else gets revived because Jiren gets the wish and uses it for himself .Imagine the shitstorm

[Nero<>Akira]

lol Imagine if no one gets a wish because it's a draw and they'll make due with surviving.

[Dbzfan94]

U7 is about to get erased and then Goku wakes up the day of the 28th World Tournament and everything was a dream

"Chiichi I was a god!! Freeza came back and he was gold! There was an evil me!!"

"Are you okay? Did you eat something funny before bed?"

[Nero<>Akira]

words cannot express how angry that would make me LOL

[Lord Frieza]

Well apparently Zen-Oh dose not change his mind so the odds are low he'll let them both live. While its been fun, he's erased even the likes of universe 3 without a seconds thought and....
[spoiler]is apparently ready to do the same to 7 in the final episode before Frieza shows up.[/spoiler]

I don't even think a tie will help due to that reason, even if the time ends it will go to sudden death I reckon.

[Jigurashi]

And Nobody else gets revived because Jiren gets the wish and uses it for himself .Imagine the shitstorm

I’d lol hard if this were to happen. I think it’s quite possible both universes survive

[Kenneth La Torre]

Yeah I definitely see a draw. Both universes get spared. I doubt goku will lose to jiren and never have a rematch again (if db ever comes back again)

[HeroR]

Yeah I definitely see a draw. Both universes get spared. I doubt goku will lose to jiren and never have a rematch again (if db ever comes back again)

Goku never rematched officially with Hit since Toei had to do it themselves for the anime. And as things stand, he won't rematch against Beerus. So chances are, he probably won't rematched with Jiren.

[Jigurashi]

Yeah I definitely see a draw. Both universes get spared. I doubt goku will lose to jiren and never have a rematch again (if db ever comes back again)

I mean he’s already fought Jiren like 5 times already. He’s never rematched Piccolo or Beerus or Hit in the manga. Definitely possible he never fights Jiren again after this tournament

[Kenneth La Torre]

Based on the recent interview, with jiren having an important role in 132, I now really doubt universe 11 will be erased.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Yeah I definitely see a draw. Both universes get spared. I doubt goku will lose to jiren and never have a rematch again (if db ever comes back again)

Goku never rematched officially with Hit since Toei had to do it themselves for the anime. And as things stand, he won't rematch against Beerus. So chances are, he probably won't rematched with Jiren.

"Officially" what does this even mean? Everything done in DBS is "official" it it's appropriate medium- the anime or manga.

Based on the recent interview, with jiren having an important role in 132, I now really doubt universe 11 will be erased.

Given the comments of Jiren learning from Goku and the secrecy about his wish, I think it is looking very likely that U7 do lose but Jiren wishes for them not to be erased. That would explain the title of "Miraculous conclusion".

Honestly I am okay if that happens.

[Kamiccolo9]

Yeah I definitely see a draw. Both universes get spared. I doubt goku will lose to jiren and never have a rematch again (if db ever comes back again)

I mean he’s already fought Jiren like 5 times already. He’s never rematched Piccolo or Beerus or Hit in the manga. Definitely possible he never fights Jiren again after this tournament

Goku sparred with Piccolo for three years, leaving aside that the 23rd Budokai was a rematch.

[Kenneth La Torre]

Yeah I definitely see a draw. Both universes get spared. I doubt goku will lose to jiren and never have a rematch again (if db ever comes back again)

Goku never rematched officially with Hit since Toei had to do it themselves for the anime. And as things stand, he won't rematch against Beerus. So chances are, he probably won't rematched with Jiren.

"Officially" what does this even mean? Everything done in DBS is "official" it it's appropriate medium- the anime or manga.

Based on the recent interview, with jiren having an important role in 132, I now really doubt universe 11 will be erased.

Given the comments of Jiren learning from Goku and the secrecy about his wish, I think it is looking very likely that U7 do lose but Jiren wishes for them not to be erased. That would explain the title of "Miraculous conclusion".

Honestly I am okay if that happens.

I’m ok too. But I don’t think toei has the balls to do such a thing. I think they will just tie. But if such a thing happens, then that’ll be surprising.

[HeroR]

Yeah I definitely see a draw. Both universes get spared. I doubt goku will lose to jiren and never have a rematch again (if db ever comes back again)

Goku never rematched officially with Hit since Toei had to do it themselves for the anime. And as things stand, he won't rematch against Beerus. So chances are, he probably won't rematched with Jiren.

"Officially" what does this even mean? Everything done in DBS is "official" it it's appropriate medium- the anime or manga.

Based on the recent interview, with jiren having an important role in 132, I now really doubt universe 11 will be erased.

Given the comments of Jiren learning from Goku and the secrecy about his wish, I think it is looking very likely that U7 do lose but Jiren wishes for them not to be erased. That would explain the title of "Miraculous conclusion".

Honestly I am okay if that happens.

I mean ‘officially’ in the sense that despite Goku’s fight with Hit being left in the air, Toriyama never planned for them to fight again.

That would honestly be lame since it feels too much like a repeat of the Champa Saga.

[Jigurashi]

Yeah I definitely see a draw. Both universes get spared. I doubt goku will lose to jiren and never have a rematch again (if db ever comes back again)

I mean he’s already fought Jiren like 5 times already. He’s never rematched Piccolo or Beerus or Hit in the manga. Definitely possible he never fights Jiren again after this tournament

Goku sparred with Piccolo for three years, leaving aside that the 23rd Budokai was a rematch.

Piccolo Jr ain’t the same as Daimao. Sparring isn’t a rematch either.

[Kamiccolo9]

Piccolo Jr ain’t the same as Daimao. Sparring isn’t a rematch either.

I mean, he literally is, because he says so.

And says who?

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I’m ok too. But I don’t think toei has the balls to do such a thing. I think they will just tie. But if such a thing happens, then that’ll be surprising.

I think we'll see the shift in focus in the next episode, instead of like before where Jiren's strength being the wall for our heroes to overcome, UI Goku will be Jiren's and we'll see Jiren's resolve.

They've already teased Jiren's specific wish and the fact he is looking for something that "lies beyond strength" and now given the comments the director made about Jiren learning from Goku etc I am honestly pretty excited for these last two episodes.

[Kenneth La Torre]

I’m ok too. But I don’t think toei has the balls to do such a thing. I think they will just tie. But if such a thing happens, then that’ll be surprising.

I think we'll see the shift in focus in the next episode, instead of like before where Jiren's strength being the wall for our heroes to overcome, UI Goku will be Jiren's and we'll see Jiren's resolve.

They've already teased Jiren's specific wish and the fact he is looking for something that "lies beyond strength" and now given the comments the director made about Jiren learning from Goku etc I am honestly pretty excited for these last two episodes.

I’m not sure. What lies beyond strength seems to be related to the death of his family. To me it means that jiren knows that no matter how strong he gets, he won’t be able to resurrect his loved ones. I’m definitely anxious to see how goku losing affects the story.

[HeroR]

I’m ok too. But I don’t think toei has the balls to do such a thing. I think they will just tie. But if such a thing happens, then that’ll be surprising.

I think we'll see the shift in focus in the next episode, instead of like before where Jiren's strength being the wall for our heroes to overcome, UI Goku will be Jiren's and we'll see Jiren's resolve.

They've already teased Jiren's specific wish and the fact he is looking for something that "lies beyond strength" and now given the comments the director made about Jiren learning from Goku etc I am honestly pretty excited for these last two episodes.

I’m not sure. What lies beyond strength seems to be related to the death of his family. To me it means that jiren knows that no matter how strong he gets, he won’t be able to resurrect his loved ones. I’m definitely anxious to see how goku losing affects the story.

Acoording to a Herms, Jiren basically said ‘I want to get stronger’ which was why Goku reacted so positively.