"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Mercenary]

Just noticed that if Freeza gets his wish, then 17 will remain dead.....

They could always just use the Namek dragonballs

The question is - will they work in World of Void?

[kn83]

Just noticed that if Freeza gets his wish, then 17 will remain dead.....

They could always just use the Namek dragonballs

The question is - will they work in World of Void?

They could just Instant Transmission to Namek and do it there.

[sintzu]

Toriyama once said that he would like Vegeta to play the main role in the upcoming movie. That's the perfect opportunity considering that movie is whole about Saiyans and Vegeta is really devoted to that whole Saiyan Race talk.

Goku hogged the spotlight in the TOP and got the most powerful transformation we've ever seen, so now it's Vegeta time to shine!

Resurrection of F was Vegeta's main role.

AT is a troll =\

Toriyama never said anything about Vegeta being the only main character in RF so in a way by having him be Goku's equal he was the main character, just not the only one.

With this movie revolving around the Saiyans and I think Freeza then you can be sure Vegeta will be very important in it. Maybe he'll even get UI as that
ll give them their new form to market without having to come up with one.

[JazzMazz]

Alright I haven't been around for a while, you know, avoiding spoilers for at least 2 episodes once in my life..
Somebody let me know the details of this movie thingy, if possible please give the details in.. detail..

Toriyama released a vague interview about the contents of the film, as can be seen here.
[spoiler]

The Dragon Ball Super movie this time will be the next story in the series currently airing on TV. It will be an episode after catching our breath from the climax of the Tournament of Power with the universe’s existence on the line; with content that will give a little better understanding about Freeza and the Saiyans, which I hadn’t properly depicted up till now; and leading to a mighty foe saved for the occasion, which I think has it shaping up to be a really enjoyable story.
As with 2013’s Battle of Gods and the last outing Resurrection ‘F’, I’ve written the story myself, and I’ve had the privilege of drawing lots of design illustrations as well.
The fact is, while I’m just as busy as ever, as long as I’m not doing a serial, I have plenty of free time to think about the animated version, which I was completely hands-off about before.
(laughs) So please look forward to it!
Now then, the animated version on TV will be ending for the time being, but the very popular Dragon Ball Super comic drawn by Toyotaro (on sale now up through volume 5!) will keep on going as-is. I think there will also be story developments different from the TV show and the movie, so please look forward to that as well. I will be, too!
–Akira Toriyama

[/spoiler]
Also, the key visual and staff for the film were released.
[spoiler][/spoiler]The key staff for the movie is also surprising, as series veteran, Tadayoshi Yamamuro, doesn't seem to be reprising his role of character designer for the film, with younger talent, Naohiro Shintani taking the role.

The overall director for the film is Tatsuya Nagamine, a distinguished and capable director whose proven himself with Precure and One Piece film Z(and is also the 2nd credited series director for Super).

The art director(background art), is veteran Kazuo Ogura.

Here's a simplified graph.

Director:Tatsuya Nagamine
Animation Supervisor: Naohiro Shintani
Art Director: Kazuo Ogura

Overall, it seems to be a promising and fresh staff list, espicially, considering how the franchises last two cinematic releases ended up being visually underwhelming and certainly below the par of over Toei movies.

That around sums it up I guess. Hope you found this at least a little useful.

[ZenkaiBoosts]

Alright I haven't been around for a while, you know, avoiding spoilers for at least 2 episodes once in my life..
Somebody let me know the details of this movie thingy, if possible please give the details in.. detail..

Read the main page, it has basically everything.

Oh I know about that, I was looking for details not yet 100% confirmed if there are any..

On topic, I have some doubts, This paragraph by Toriyama is pretty interesting

The fact is, while I’m just as busy as ever, as long as I’m not doing a serial, I have plenty of free time to think about the animated version, which I was completely hands-off about before.

So, this confirms Toriyama wasn't paying attention to the anime whatsoever? Or in an amount that actually matters?

As for Toyo's manga, Toriyama isn't exactly sure if it's gonna be different, so does that mean Toyo has more freedom on the manga now?

The recent interview from Super's directors revealed just how much of a collaborative effort it is between Toriyama and Toei where Toei still treats the word of Toriyama very highly, tries to do what ever he says, and always get their ideas approved by Toriyama

After Toei came to Toriyama with Kale, Toriyama designed Caulifla.

I feel Toriyama is at his best when it's a collaborative effort and he has others to push him, like how Goku doesn't raise the bar until others push him; )

Fun fact:
16, 17, 18, Cell - and by extension the whole epic Cell saga never would've existed, if someone didn't keep telling Toriyama that his designs essentially sucked lol

That's literally what happened. I'm not even kidding

It was somebody telling Toriyama that his designs sucked that kept Toriyama going on and continually creating new designs(which lead to 16, 17, 18, Cell - and by extension the Cell saga). Toriyama's original plan was to only have 20 and Dr Gero and have them be the main villians. Think about how much we would have lost out on if that were the case

I feel that the same magic happened with the tournament of power arc in a kind of similar way (the idea of collaboration pushing each other)

Toriyama created UI, and then Toei came up with the brilliant Omen foreshadowing and Omen build up and set up etc

I use to think it was Toriyama who wrote how Goku first awakened Omen and yet it was Toei all along. Toei deserves major credit for the pure brilliance of Goku first awakening Omen through an internal struggle from within himself to resist being killed by his own spirit bomb.

[Mercenary]

Toriyama once said that he would like Vegeta to play the main role in the upcoming movie. That's the perfect opportunity considering that movie is whole about Saiyans and Vegeta is really devoted to that whole Saiyan Race talk.

Goku hogged the spotlight in the TOP and got the most powerful transformation we've ever seen, so now it's Vegeta time to shine!

Resurrection of F was Vegeta's main role.

AT is a troll =\

Toriyama never said anything about Vegeta being the only main character in RF so in a way by having him be Goku's equal he was the main character, just not the only one.

With this movie revolving around the Saiyans and I think Freeza then you can be sure Vegeta will be very important in it. Maybe he'll even get UI as that
ll give them their new form to market without having to come up with one.

I've heard some rumors that there will be a totally new transformation but I don't know if it was legit or not.

Anyway, Vegeta deserves to get at least as much spotlight as Goku. He is the "core" of Dragon Ball Super. I just can't imagine Vegeta not playing a major role in this movie!

[Ki Breaker]

Alright I haven't been around for a while, you know, avoiding spoilers for at least 2 episodes once in my life..
Somebody let me know the details of this movie thingy, if possible please give the details in.. detail..

Toriyama released a vague interview about the contents of the film, as can be seen here.
[spoiler]

The Dragon Ball Super movie this time will be the next story in the series currently airing on TV. It will be an episode after catching our breath from the climax of the Tournament of Power with the universe’s existence on the line; with content that will give a little better understanding about Freeza and the Saiyans, which I hadn’t properly depicted up till now; and leading to a mighty foe saved for the occasion, which I think has it shaping up to be a really enjoyable story.
As with 2013’s Battle of Gods and the last outing Resurrection ‘F’, I’ve written the story myself, and I’ve had the privilege of drawing lots of design illustrations as well.
The fact is, while I’m just as busy as ever, as long as I’m not doing a serial, I have plenty of free time to think about the animated version, which I was completely hands-off about before.
(laughs) So please look forward to it!
Now then, the animated version on TV will be ending for the time being, but the very popular Dragon Ball Super comic drawn by Toyotaro (on sale now up through volume 5!) will keep on going as-is. I think there will also be story developments different from the TV show and the movie, so please look forward to that as well. I will be, too!
–Akira Toriyama

[/spoiler]
Also, the key visual and staff for the film were released.
[spoiler][/spoiler]The key staff for the movie is also surprising, as series veteran, Tadayoshi Yamamuro, doesn't seem to be reprising his role of character designer for the film, with younger talent, Naohiro Shintani taking the role.

The overall director for the film is Tatsuya Nagamine, a distinguished and capable director whose proven himself with Precure and One Piece film Z(and is also the 2nd credited series director for Super).

The art director(background art), is veteran Kazuo Ogura.

Here's a simplified graph.

Director:Tatsuya Nagamine
Animation Supervisor: Naohiro Shintani
Art Director: Kazuo Ogura

Overall, it seems to be a promising and fresh staff list, espicially, considering how the franchises last two cinematic releases ended up being visually underwhelming and certainly below the par of over Toei movies.

That around sums it up I guess. Hope you found this at least a little useful.

Thanks a lot buddy, this helps a ton!

[Aman]

Resurrection of F was Vegeta's main role.

AT is a troll =\

Toriyama never said anything about Vegeta being the only main character in RF so in a way by having him be Goku's equal he was the main character, just not the only one.

With this movie revolving around the Saiyans and I think Freeza then you can be sure Vegeta will be very important in it. Maybe he'll even get UI as that
ll give them their new form to market without having to come up with one.

I've heard some rumors that there will be a totally new transformation but I don't know if it was legit or not.

Anyway, Vegeta deserves to get at least as much spotlight as Goku. He is the "core" of Dragon Ball Super. I just can't imagine Vegeta not playing a major role in this movie!

Outside Goku, he's the only relevant character left. If they ditch him, it really is just the Goku show.

[Gohan123]

I think i will not watch Dragon Ball Super episode 130-131 because Goku lose . It was really awful to see Goku don't defeat main villain .

His records compare to other shonen protagonist was really awful . It kinda make me despise Toriyama and Toei to ruin Goku .

[sintzu]

I think i will not watch Dragon Ball Super episode 130-131 because Goku lose .

Of all the times to drop the show you pick the last 2 and most important episodes ? I understand why you want Goku to win as I do too but we should at the very least see what happens before giving a full judgement. How many times have we overreacted over previews only to end up being wrong ? I don't know about you but I've lost count over how many times I've went on major rants only to end up liking what I thought was bad.

[Aman]

I think i will not watch Dragon Ball Super episode 130-131 because Goku lose . It was really awful to see Goku don't defeat main villain .

His records compare to other shonen protagonist was really awful . It kinda make me despise Toriyama and Toei to ruin Goku .

lol, try being a Vegeta fan. He always gets humilated and is playing catch up regardless of what he does - fights for his loved ones, trains under someone, humbles himself etc. It doesn't matter what he does or how hard he works, he'll always end up being humilated. What a shitty lesson to kids from AT - don't even bother trying kids, you'll only fail.

[sintzu]

I’m just as busy as ever, as long as I’m not doing a serial, I have plenty of free time to think about the animated version.

The franchise is making money and Toriyama wants to write for it so is there any reason now to think the anime won't continue ?

In terms of the movie, it seems like it's something he's been thinking about for awhile as he says the villain has been saved for this occasion which may imply he wanted to use him before but decided to wait for something better.

lol, try being a Vegeta fan. He always gets humilated and is playing catch up regardless of what he does - fights for his loved ones, trains under someone, humbles himself etc. It doesn't matter what he does or how hard he works, he'll always end up being humilated. What a shitty lesson to kids from AT - don't even bother trying kids, you'll only fail.

Vegeta played a main role in taking down Kid Buu. He was the only one to be able to fight Beerus without SsjG. In Super he was the only one to lay the smackdown on Golden Freeza. He got good screentime in Champa's tournament. He forced Black to back off and rely on his clones after humiliating him while in the manga he was the only one to fight him. In the current arc he got a new form and took down a destroyer level fighter alongside putting up a fight against Jiren.

Vegeta isn't the main character but to say he never gets anything good and is just humiliated all the time is flat out wrong at this point. Like many Vegeta fans I'd love to see him completely take down a main villain on his own but that doesn't mean I'm going to look past what he does get.

[Kenneth La Torre]

I’m still in shock that people are wining about not seeing Super because goku loses. That’s like an argument a child would make. Your favorite character loses and it’s stops you from seeing a show? Wow.

[Husig]

Regarding the upcoming movie, where they talk about an old enemy.

What would happen if they wish to bring back all the universes destroyed by zeno's? Afaik the future trunks universe was also destroyed by zeno, so could the enemy be [spoiler]zamasu?[/spoiler]

Ps: sorry for my bad english

[ZenkaiBoosts]

Resurrection of F was Vegeta's main role.

AT is a troll =\

Toriyama never said anything about Vegeta being the only main character in RF so in a way by having him be Goku's equal he was the main character, just not the only one.

With this movie revolving around the Saiyans and I think Freeza then you can be sure Vegeta will be very important in it. Maybe he'll even get UI as that
ll give them their new form to market without having to come up with one.

I've heard some rumors that there will be a totally new transformation but I don't know if it was legit or not.

Anyway, Vegeta deserves to get at least as much spotlight as Goku. He is the "core" of Dragon Ball Super. I just can't imagine Vegeta not playing a major role in this movie!

No character deserves anything. It's an anime.

And whether you like it or not, Dragon Ball is the story of Goku. You have been watching this long. You should know that and accept that by now.

Goku isn't the most iconic character in all of anime for a reason : )

The majority love Goku. You are entitled to any opinions you want to have, but you are in the minority. The next movie doesn't have to do anything for Vegeta that you demand. It's what Toriyama wants.

[Mercenary]

Toriyama never said anything about Vegeta being the only main character in RF so in a way by having him be Goku's equal he was the main character, just not the only one.

With this movie revolving around the Saiyans and I think Freeza then you can be sure Vegeta will be very important in it. Maybe he'll even get UI as that
ll give them their new form to market without having to come up with one.

I've heard some rumors that there will be a totally new transformation but I don't know if it was legit or not.

Anyway, Vegeta deserves to get at least as much spotlight as Goku. He is the "core" of Dragon Ball Super. I just can't imagine Vegeta not playing a major role in this movie!

No character deserves anything. It's an anime.

And whether you like it or not, Dragon Ball is the story of Goku. You have been watching this long. You should know that and accept that by now.

Goku isn't the most iconic character in all of anime for a reason : )

The majority love Goku. You are entitled to any opinions you want to have, but you are in the minority. The next movie doesn't have to do anything you want as a fan of Vegeta. It's what Toriyama wants.

Outside of Japan, Vegeta is as popular as Goku and in some parts of the world he has even more fans than the MC .

And we both know Zenkai that you dislike Vegeta, so your point of view is very biased. There's no common sense in responding anymore to you.

[sintzu]

The next movie doesn't have to do anything you want as a fan of Vegeta. It's what Toriyama wants.

Does this apply to Goku fans as well? Will you be OK with Goku losing to the main villain a 6th time in a row ?

[ZenkaiBoosts]

I think i will not watch Dragon Ball Super episode 130-131 because Goku lose . It was really awful to see Goku don't defeat main villain .

His records compare to other shonen protagonist was really awful . It kinda make me despise Toriyama and Toei to ruin Goku .

lol, try being a Vegeta fan. He always gets humilated and is playing catch up regardless of what he does - fights for his loved ones, trains under someone, humbles himself etc. It doesn't matter what he does or how hard he works, he'll always end up being humilated. What a shitty lesson to kids from AT - don't even bother trying kids, you'll only fail.

You act as if Goku doesn't train either nor humbles himself etc

Goku fights for family and friends too. Episode 128

Goku has experienced tough losses too. The difference is Goku is humble enough to learn from his losses and grow from them.

I thought the "complaints" from Vegeta fans would have stopped after Vegeta beat Toppo

This just further proves how Vegeta fans are never happy with anything and always want more no matter what.

Can we please also stop with the Vegeta fanboy wars against Goku?

Be like your fav character Vegeta when Vegeta put all his trust into Goku. Cheer for Goku like Vegeta is, since Goku is fighting to uphold Vegeta's promises. Be like Vegeta when Vegeta defended Goku against the gods. Vegeta's character admires and respects Goku: )

I will give you an example based on the training.

Look at the UFC. EVERYONE at the elite level trains hard. But not everyone can be as great as Conor McGregor regardless of how hard they train.

That's just how real life works. There's always something that sperates the truly elite talents.

Vegeta is great in his own right, but its clearly Goku who is the ultimate prodigy.

It's all about Goku. Its Goku's show. Vegeta will never will be like Goku. It isnt in the cards for Vegeta to ever surpass Goku. Thats just the way it is. Just like it is never meant to be for some top 5 fighter to ever surpass Conor McGregor

Vegeta can train all he wants, Goku trains smarter and has far much more knowledge/expertise

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Regarding the upcoming movie, where they talk about an old enemy.

What would happen if they wish to bring back all the universes destroyed by zeno's? Afaik the future trunks universe was also destroyed by zeno, so could the enemy be [spoiler]zamasu?[/spoiler]

Ps: sorry for my bad english

Not quite old enemy, exact quote; "...and leading to a mighty foe saved for the occasion" either someone mentioned prior that hadn't appeared (like Zalama) or someone will be teased in DBS #130/1.

Given we know the ending of DBS 1.0 involves the Super DB's so Zalama looks the best bet.

[ZenkaiBoosts]

The next movie doesn't have to do anything you want as a fan of Vegeta. It's what Toriyama wants.

Does this apply to Goku fans as well? Will you be OK with Goku losing to the main villain a 6th time in a row ?

Except that sure didn't stop Vegeta fans from still complaining after the writers gave Vegeta a win over Toppo

You even had Vegeta fans insulting Toshio over Twitter and that was disgusting unacceptable behavior. Vegeta fans have sadly proven to be far worse. You can't compare the situations at all

It's not only Goku fans that could be disappointed in what appears to be the ending spoilers

There are many reasons to be disappointed in that event that have nothing to do with being a Goku fanboy

- All the build up to a new form only for it to still lose

- Jiren the bland character getting the win after having revealed his "full power" again and again

- Maybe some people just want to see Goku get the win and it has nothing to with them being a Goku fanboy

Maybe some Vegeta fans even want to see Goku beat Jiren and uphold Vegeta's trust in Goku - and his promises. Goku is now fighting for Vegeta too.

But there's a very real chance that the ending spoilers are red hearings to mislead so that we will be even more surprised when what happens, happens: )