Unpopular DB opinions

[GamerSkull]

Alright, this might make people hate me but...

Dragon Ball Super was only good for the slice-of-life episodes.

I'm just wondering, what do you dislike about Super?

I think this is pretty unpopular, but I think the Cell Arc is about as bad as the ROF Arc and the Super 17 Arc.

Well, to be fair... DB peaked for me in the Namek arc and it was harder for me to enjoy most of what came after it. And at least the Super 17 arc was short. The ToP arc was too long with too little change at the end.

I hate the inconsistencies Super has made with the original stuff and the power creep problem that existed Z was only exacerbated and a bunch of other shit that infuriated me.

The “good” arc that was the Future Trunks arc was confusing and disjointed and I hated the ending to it.

There are just a lot of reasons I dislike Super.

[Champa The Destroyer]

Alright, this might make people hate me but...

Dragon Ball Super was only good for the slice-of-life episodes.

I'm just wondering, what do you dislike about Super?

I think this is pretty unpopular, but I think the Cell Arc is about as bad as the ROF Arc and the Super 17 Arc.

Well, to be fair... DB peaked for me in the Namek arc and it was harder for me to enjoy most of what came after it. And at least the Super 17 arc was short. The ToP arc was too long with too little change at the end.

I hate the inconsistencies Super has made with the original stuff and the power creep problem that existed Z was only exacerbated and a bunch of other shit that infuriated me.

The “good” arc that was the Future Trunks arc was confusing and disjointed and I hated the ending to it.

There are just a lot of reasons I dislike Super.

That makes sense. I know that a lot of people hated the ending to the Future Trunks Arc. And while I love the Future Trunks Arc, the time traveling stuff is unnecessarily confusing. I would have to say that the Namek Arc is the best Dragon Ball Arc, though the Future Trunks Arc for the most part and the TOP are thoroughly entertaining for me.

I actually enjoy the 1st half of the Cell Arc. However, from when Cell absorbs 17 up to the end of the Arc just infuriates me.

[GamerSkull]

I'm just wondering, what do you dislike about Super?

I think this is pretty unpopular, but I think the Cell Arc is about as bad as the ROF Arc and the Super 17 Arc.

Well, to be fair... DB peaked for me in the Namek arc and it was harder for me to enjoy most of what came after it. And at least the Super 17 arc was short. The ToP arc was too long with too little change at the end.

I hate the inconsistencies Super has made with the original stuff and the power creep problem that existed Z was only exacerbated and a bunch of other shit that infuriated me.

The “good” arc that was the Future Trunks arc was confusing and disjointed and I hated the ending to it.

There are just a lot of reasons I dislike Super.

That makes sense. I know that a lot of people hated the ending to the Future Trunks Arc. And while I love the Future Trunks Arc, the time traveling stuff is unnecessarily confusing. I would have to say that the Namek Arc is the best Dragon Ball Arc, though the Future Trunks Arc for the most part and the TOP are thoroughly entertaining for me.

I actually enjoy the 1st half of the Cell Arc. However, from when Cell absorbs 17 up to the end of the Arc just infuriates me.

I also want to be clear in that I don’t knock anyone for liking DBS. I’m fact I think it’s great others got something more out of a series that I don’t personally like.

So while I might dislike Super, I can still respect other people for enjoying and even loving it.

I’m just saying this because I don’t want my dislike of Super to come off as rude.

[Champa The Destroyer]

Well, to be fair... DB peaked for me in the Namek arc and it was harder for me to enjoy most of what came after it. And at least the Super 17 arc was short. The ToP arc was too long with too little change at the end.

I hate the inconsistencies Super has made with the original stuff and the power creep problem that existed Z was only exacerbated and a bunch of other shit that infuriated me.

The “good” arc that was the Future Trunks arc was confusing and disjointed and I hated the ending to it.

There are just a lot of reasons I dislike Super.

That makes sense. I know that a lot of people hated the ending to the Future Trunks Arc. And while I love the Future Trunks Arc, the time traveling stuff is unnecessarily confusing. I would have to say that the Namek Arc is the best Dragon Ball Arc, though the Future Trunks Arc for the most part and the TOP are thoroughly entertaining for me.

I actually enjoy the 1st half of the Cell Arc. However, from when Cell absorbs 17 up to the end of the Arc just infuriates me.

I also want to be clear in that I don’t knock anyone for liking DBS. I’m fact I think it’s great others got something more out of a series that I don’t personally like.

So while I might dislike Super, I can still respect other people for enjoying and even loving it.

I’m just saying this because I don’t want my dislike of Super to come off as rude.

I understand, I feel the same way about Broly. While I personally dont like him, I'm happy that other people like the character. I can also see why a lot of people dislike Super.

[Gaffer Tape]

Alright, this might make people hate me but...

Dragon Ball Super was only good for the slice-of-life episodes.

I completely agree with you on that. For the most part, those have been the only moments that have really been memorable to me. The series is just not very good at drama.

[sunsetshimmer]

I think this is pretty unpopular, but I think the Cell Arc is about as bad as the ROF Arc and the Super 17 Arc.

I am not a fan of Cell arc either. I only liked 16,17 and 18 and that's it.
Super 17 was in fact better villain than Cell imo. I mean Cell was better written because Super 17 was there for only 4 episodes, but i liked him more than Cell.

Alright, this might make people hate me but...

Dragon Ball Super was only good for the slice-of-life episodes.

For me the best episode of DBS is still the one with Future Trunks coming to Gohan's house, meeting Videl and Pan.

[Champa The Destroyer]

I think this is pretty unpopular, but I think the Cell Arc is about as bad as the ROF Arc and the Super 17 Arc.

I am not a fan of Cell arc either. I only liked 16,17 and 18 and that's it.
Super 17 was in fact better villain than Cell imo. I mean Cell was better written because Super 17 was there for only 4 episodes, but i liked him more than Cell.

Alright, this might make people hate me but...

Dragon Ball Super was only good for the slice-of-life episodes.

For me the best episode of DBS is still the one with Future Trunks coming to Gohan's house, meeting Videl and Pan.

Tbh while I don't like Super 17, I have to agree. Cell was an amazing character up until he absorbed 17. Semi Perfect Cell is probably my least favorite Dragon Ball character, period. Perfect Cell is a lot better, but he's just bland. At least Super 17's character benefits from Gero and Dr. Myuu.

[Kid Buu]

I agree, Cell Games Gohan is my least favorite version of the character.

I would probably like it more if it was built up more since the beginning of the Cell Arc. It didn't seem like it wanted to build up Gohan being the one to beat Cell until they went into the ROSAT.

He's not active during that arc. He's in the background for most of it, and when he's put in the spotlight, he need to be told what to do. And I've heard every rationale for it. While those points are valid, they don't make for good reasons to put him in the spotlight.

I agree with this too, but I wanted to add Gohan's fight with Cell is probably my least favourite boss battle in the series. Until the Kamehameha duel, it doesn't even feel like a fight.

[Champa The Destroyer]

I would probably like it more if it was built up more since the beginning of the Cell Arc. It didn't seem like it wanted to build up Gohan being the one to beat Cell until they went into the ROSAT.

He's not active during that arc. He's in the background for most of it, and when he's put in the spotlight, he need to be told what to do. And I've heard every rationale for it. While those points are valid, they don't make for good reasons to put him in the spotlight.

I agree with this too, but I wanted to add Gohan's fight with Cell is probably my least favourite boss battle in the series. Until the Kamehameha duel, it doesn't even feel like a fight.

Agreed. Gohan stomped Cell until he blew himself up, then he hurt Gohan and they had the beam struggle.

[FortuneSSJ]

DB FighterZ reminded me how Nozawa doesn't fit Bardock's character.

[Vegeta_Sama]

DB FighterZ reminded me how Nozawa doesn't fit Bardock's character.

Agree. She's an awesome VA, she fits Goku and family perfectly, but hearing her voice coming out of Bardock is really jarring. She doesn't fit at all

[ABED]

DB FighterZ reminded me how Nozawa doesn't fit Bardock's character.

Agree. She's an awesome VA, she fits Goku and family perfectly, but hearing her voice coming out of Bardock is really jarring. She doesn't fit at all

Why not? I think she pulled off the cold Saiyan warrior with aplomb.

[Vegeta_Sama]

DB FighterZ reminded me how Nozawa doesn't fit Bardock's character.

Agree. She's an awesome VA, she fits Goku and family perfectly, but hearing her voice coming out of Bardock is really jarring. She doesn't fit at all

Why not? I think she pulled off the cold Saiyan warrior with aplomb.

She pulled off a cold badass Saiyan with Black. But not with Bardock

[ABED]

Agree. She's an awesome VA, she fits Goku and family perfectly, but hearing her voice coming out of Bardock is really jarring. She doesn't fit at all

Why not? I think she pulled off the cold Saiyan warrior with aplomb.

She pulled off a cold badass Saiyan with Black. But not with Bardock

I don't see how she didn't. Can you point to a moment where she didn't convey a cold hearted Saiyan desperately trying to save his friends and homeworld?

[Vegeta_Sama]

Why not? I think she pulled off the cold Saiyan warrior with aplomb.

She pulled off a cold badass Saiyan with Black. But not with Bardock

I don't see how she didn't. Can you point to a moment where she didn't convey a cold hearted Saiyan desperately trying to save his friends and homeworld?

Look, I'm not trying to convince you, and even if I did, I probably wouldn't be able to. They're called opinions for a reason. What to me doesn't sound like a tough Saiyan warrior, may sound just right to you, it's all subjective

[ABED]

She pulled off a cold badass Saiyan with Black. But not with Bardock

I don't see how she didn't. Can you point to a moment where she didn't convey a cold hearted Saiyan desperately trying to save his friends and homeworld?

Look, I'm not trying to convince you, and even if I did, I probably wouldn't be able to. They're called opinions for a reason. What to me doesn't sound like a tough Saiyan warrior, may sound just right to you, it's all subjective

I'm not asking for a lot or to change your opinion. I get the opinion thing, but it seems completely arbitrary to me. What difference do you hear in Black that you don't hear in Bardock?

[Vegeta_Sama]

I don't see how she didn't. Can you point to a moment where she didn't convey a cold hearted Saiyan desperately trying to save his friends and homeworld?

Look, I'm not trying to convince you, and even if I did, I probably wouldn't be able to. They're called opinions for a reason. What to me doesn't sound like a tough Saiyan warrior, may sound just right to you, it's all subjective

I'm not asking for a lot or to change your opinion. I get the opinion thing, but it seems completely arbitrary to me. What difference do you hear in Black that you don't hear in Bardock?

Bardock is more high pitched

[ABED]

And high pitched doesn't convey cold to you? Alright, but it seems very arbitrary to me. I don't even think it's a conscious choice on her part. Voices naturally deepen with age.

[FortuneSSJ]

Why not? I think she pulled off the cold Saiyan warrior with aplomb.

Goku is a naive manchild, so her voice fits.
Since Gohan and Goten are his sons, I can give a free pass even though I don't think it's necessary the three to share the same voice actor.
Black makes sense for obvious reasons (it's Goku's body) and I always saw Turles as another evil version of Goku, thus it's okay.

Bardock is where it crosses the line. I always saw him as a badass "Vegeta that looks like Goku" and Nozawa doesn't fit "Vegeta". If anything he should sound closer to Raditz.

[ABED]

Why not? I think she pulled off the cold Saiyan warrior with aplomb.

Goku is a naive manchild, so her voice fits.
Since Gohan and Goten are his sons, I can give a free pass even though I don't think it's necessary the three to share the same voice actor.
Black makes sense for obvious reasons (it's Goku's body) and I always saw Turles as another evil version of Goku, thus it's okay.

Bardock is where it crosses the line. I always saw him as a badass "Vegeta that looks like Goku" and Nozawa doesn't fit "Vegeta". If anything he should sound closer to Raditz.

It seems your conception of Bardock is limited to "badass". He's cold-hearted and by the end of the story, in a state of confusion and desperation. That's who the character is, not simply "badass". Nozawa is great as Bardock as she's able to convey those emotions and for many is able to get you to empathize with a murderous bastard who doesn't give a damn about his newborn son. He's lost his comrades and will go up against overwhelming odds in what is ultimately a fools errand of trying to defeat Freeza in order to save his homeworld. Bardock isn't like Raditz at all, nor is he like Vegeta.