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So is it still considered an Insert, or does this mean it's just a regular song from the score? I don't think even Kill la Kill used Before my body is dry as much as DBS used Ultimate Battle.
"Are you trying to impress me with your transformation sequence?" - Mashymre Cello
And? It's a fucking awesome song that is used in great episodes in the arc.
Last edited by Lord Beerus on Tue Mar 27, 2018 10:40 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Pocket Monster: XY & Z used its Opening song as an insert song for nearly every appearance of Satoshi-Gekkouga. It's also common for Super Sentai to use their songs multiple times. I do wish it wasn't the only insert song used, though.
Interestingly enough, Naruto and Naruto Shippuuden never used insert songs but Boruto has one.
Lord Beerus wrote:And? It's a fucking awesome song that is used in great episodes in the arc.
I mean, it kinda loses all impact when you use the same insert song for every "epic, dude" moment you have. Can anyone really defend its usage in 115, 121, 123 and 129 for instance? Was it really necessary? Imagine Battle Point Unlimited played every time Trunks did something.
Ultimate Battle had lost all impact it had by the time 131 rolled around. If it were only used in 110, 116 and 131? Then that would be fine.
Lord Beerus wrote:And? It's a fucking awesome song that is used in great episodes in the arc.
I mean, it kinda loses all impact when you use the same insert song for every "epic, dude" moment you have. Can anyone really defend its usage in 115, 121, 123 and 129 for instance? Was it really necessary? Imagine Battle Point Unlimited played every time Trunks did something.
Ultimate Battle had lost all impact it had by the time 131 rolled around. If it were only used in 110, 116 and 131? Then that would be fine.
What Doctor said. It lost its meaning after a while.
Lord Beerus wrote:And? It's a fucking awesome song that is used in great episodes in the arc.
I mean, it kinda loses all impact when you use the same insert song for every "epic, dude" moment you have. Can anyone really defend its usage in 115, 121, 123 and 129 for instance? Was it really necessary? Imagine Battle Point Unlimited played every time Trunks did something.
Ultimate Battle had lost all impact it had by the time 131 rolled around. If it were only used in 110, 116 and 131? Then that would be fine.
What Doctor said. It lost its meaning after a while.
I personally still enjoy the song. I love it!
Majinwarman So I'm 'evil', huh? Interesting."
A world without Dragon Ball is just meh.
Lord Beerus wrote:And? It's a fucking awesome song that is used in great episodes in the arc.
I mean, it kinda loses all impact when you use the same insert song for every "epic, dude" moment you have. Can anyone really defend its usage in 115, 121, 123 and 129 for instance? Was it really necessary? Imagine Battle Point Unlimited played every time Trunks did something.
Ultimate Battle had lost all impact it had by the time 131 rolled around. If it were only used in 110, 116 and 131? Then that would be fine.
What Doctor said. It lost its meaning after a while.
Ultimate Battle is a song used to heighten the excitement of battle that already has something unique to express. All the episodes the songs it featured in had either an exciting moment happening or it was about to happen.
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Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Doctor. wrote:
I mean, it kinda loses all impact when you use the same insert song for every "epic, dude" moment you have. Can anyone really defend its usage in 115, 121, 123 and 129 for instance? Was it really necessary? Imagine Battle Point Unlimited played every time Trunks did something.
Ultimate Battle had lost all impact it had by the time 131 rolled around. If it were only used in 110, 116 and 131? Then that would be fine.
What Doctor said. It lost its meaning after a while.
Ultimate Battle is a song used to heighten the excitement of battle that already has something unique to express. All the episodes the songs it featured in had either an exciting moment happening or it was about to happen.
I know what it is, thank you very much. It was still overused in my opinion.
I see the usage of the insert song like how Gurren Lagann used its insert songs. They just played during huge moments.
Though I will admit there were times where Ultimate Battle shouldn't have been used, like 115, 121, 123 and 130. I wish they used Dream Tag Match more.
Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:I see the usage of the insert song like how Gurren Lagann used its insert songs. They just played during huge moments.
The big difference between here and Gurren Lagann is that Gurren Lagann spaced its inserts out across the entire series. In DBS, this insert song that's never appeared in any arc prior to the T.O.P. is now littered throughout the last half of this arc. If they wanted Ultimate Battle to be their own Rap is a Man's Soul! or Before my body is dry, they should've treated it like another theme song for the series and used it during big moments in the previous arcs as well, and maybe even remixed it for it's final usage like with Libera Me From Hell. As much as I like Ultimate Battle, it undeniably loses it's impact once you've heard it eight times back-to-back. They could've easily taken two of those opportunities to use Chōzetsu ☆ Dynamic! and Limit Break X Survivor as inserts, but I guess they decided this one song absolutely needs to be played eight freaking times within twenty-one episodes.
"Are you trying to impress me with your transformation sequence?" - Mashymre Cello