I think Toriyama's time is over with the Dragonball series

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Re: i think Akira's time is over with the Dragonball series

Post by Kogu 87 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 7:53 am

Doctor. wrote: You never just had just 'evil for the sake of being evil' characters .
Yes we did...Demon King Piccolo, frieza (until super), the red ribbon army, buu etc
"Oh dear...."

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Re: i think Akira's time is over with the Dragonball series

Post by Doctor. » Thu Mar 29, 2018 10:39 am

Kogu 87 wrote:
Doctor. wrote: You never just had just 'evil for the sake of being evil' characters .
Yes we did...Demon King Piccolo, frieza (until super), the red ribbon army, buu etc
"Just."

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Re: i think Akira's time is over with the Dragonball series

Post by JazzMazz » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:58 am

Doctor. wrote:
Kogu 87 wrote:
Doctor. wrote: You never just had just 'evil for the sake of being evil' characters .
Yes we did...Demon King Piccolo, frieza (until super), the red ribbon army, buu etc
"Just."
Perfect Cell.

He was just evil through and through.

I'm mentioning perfect Cell specifically, because the other incarnations of the characters had a clear goal that informed their actions.

Super Buu and arguably Kid Buu.

Super Buu is debatable, but I don't think their really is any argument here about Kid Buu, who is literally the incarnation of evil, and doesn't have any objectives beyond destroying stuff.

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Re: i think Akira's time is over with the Dragonball series

Post by Doctor. » Fri Mar 30, 2018 11:26 am

JazzMazz wrote:
Doctor. wrote:
Kogu 87 wrote:
Yes we did...Demon King Piccolo, frieza (until super), the red ribbon army, buu etc
"Just."
Perfect Cell.

He was just evil through and through.

I'm mentioning perfect Cell specifically, because the other incarnations of the characters had a clear goal that informed their actions.

Super Buu and arguably Kid Buu.

Super Buu is debatable, but I don't think their really is any argument here about Kid Buu, who is literally the incarnation of evil, and doesn't have any objectives beyond destroying stuff.
Jesus, guys, I'm saying that the original series did not ONLY have evil for the sake of evil antagonists. Tenshinhan, androids, Majin Vegeta, Mr. Boo.

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