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by Cure Dragon 255 » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:17 pm
Sorry if this is old news!
https://www.facebook.com/OfficialVIZMed ... =3&theater
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See what they said about the manga:
Announcement: Dragon Ball: That Time I Got Reincarnated as Yamcha! releases November 2018. This manga follows a die-hard Dragon Ball fan who is reincarnated as Yamcha—Dragon Ball’s biggest punching bag and total internet meme.
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by SHINOBI-03 » Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:47 pm
Not cool, Viz. Not cool.
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by FortuneSSJ » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:03 pm
Cure Dragon 255 wrote:
See what they said about the manga:
Announcement: Dragon Ball: That Time I Got Reincarnated as Yamcha! releases November 2018. This manga follows a die-hard Dragon Ball fan who is reincarnated as Yamcha—Dragon Ball’s biggest punching bag and total internet meme.
Ridiculous. An official company should never say something like that.
A world without Dragon Ball is just boring.
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by dragonballhero » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:15 pm
Cure Dragon 255 wrote:Sorry if this is old news!
https://www.facebook.com/OfficialVIZMed ... =3&theater
EDIT: I FUCKING HATE VIZ MEDIA!
See what they said about the manga:
Announcement: Dragon Ball: That Time I Got Reincarnated as Yamcha! releases November 2018. This manga follows a die-hard Dragon Ball fan who is reincarnated as Yamcha—Dragon Ball’s biggest punching bag and total internet meme.
WTF, VIZ? Seriously, why do you guys have to be like that?
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by VegettoEX » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:18 pm
I certainly can't blame them from getting ahead of it that way from a marketing standpoint. It's everything all these companies are doing with the character, and it's playing well with the greater fandom. Why not cash in on it that way? It's not like Toei and Shueisha themselves are totally blameless, either.
At the same time, the underlying message in the manga itself with regard to Yamcha is so earnest and sympathetic and kind-hearted, and that is going to be completely lost and overshadowed by its marketing. So long as the underlying content and its translation remains intact, I can only bring myself to care so much about the surrounding marketing... which is to say a little bit, and enough to keep a close eye on it all.
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by sintzu » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:30 pm
FortuneSSJ wrote:Ridiculous. An official company should never say something like that.
He's no Goku or Vegeta so they don't have much of a choice.
In DB you're either Goku or Yamcha, there's not much in-between.
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by Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:33 pm
They didn't have to put the punching bag line in their, meme line itself doesn't have a negative connotation on it's own.
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by Helios518 » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:34 pm
Yeah, even I don't like the "Yamcha is useless" meme, but this isn't enough to get me angered or disappointed.
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by Forte224 » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:42 pm
It's all about the memes these days. There are people that want TFS to be considered official and want Funimation to reference them and etc. Memes sell, no one cares about anything else, sadly.
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by The gr » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:44 pm
Makes sense given the nature of the manga, just a little annoyed with the punching bag line.
It's good to see Viz translating other DB product, with this news I'm seeing a positive future for these types of stories.
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by DragonBallFoodie » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:46 pm
They didn't need to mention the punching bag line.
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by Doctor. » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:47 pm
Well... they're not wrong.
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by Logania » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:09 pm
You guys are getting too offended by this. Everyone treats him like dirt, even the cast. He's been a punching bag since his first appearance.
"I can't increase my ability through some kind of noisy transformation the way Frost and you Saiyans do. If I wanna become more lethal, I don't have the luxury of cutting corners, I just have to do it the old-fashioned way.
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by Kid Buu » Fri Mar 30, 2018 4:39 pm
Logania wrote: Everyone treats him like dirt, even the cast.
None of the cast did that in the original 42 volumes.
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
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by One_Instance » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:03 pm
Honestly, as much as I hate the meme (and as much as it should've died years ago) I'm not too upset with this tweet. It probably did go too far and it did make me roll my eyes, but in my opinion, I don't think it'll get worse that having Yamcha do the pose he did when he died during Super's baseball episode. Seeing unfunny posts about it on social media is one thing, but seeing it in official content rubs me the wrong way.
On another note, I'm really excited that this is happening! I didn't think Viz would do anything aside from the main Dragon Ball story.
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by Logania » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:08 pm
Kid Buu wrote: None of the cast did that in the original 42 volumes.
Then Super happens, and is the butt money who never gets included in anything.
"I can't increase my ability through some kind of noisy transformation the way Frost and you Saiyans do. If I wanna become more lethal, I don't have the luxury of cutting corners, I just have to do it the old-fashioned way.
Combat is craft. What matters most is not raw power, but the skill by which you hone it."
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by Olympian » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:12 pm
Kid Buu wrote:Logania wrote: Everyone treats him like dirt, even the cast.
None of the cast did that in the original 42 volumes.
I will debate that even in a fandom sense he was never particularly labelled/written a punching bag until the meme started to get big. Lousier luck in the choice of opponents? Sure, but that was the general rule to everyone not named Goku. Anyone who claims he was a punching bag in the Manga from the start on any particular level compared with the rest of the cast, either was never too fond of him to begin with (valid) or is simply doing damage control on the current reality of the past decade. "Goku and Friends" was the last time Yamcha was characterized anything close to Toryama fashion*. It`s early bizarre watching the franchise (since ROF/Super began pretty much) starting to actually
bank on the meme as if they suddently found out that
dot.com is a thing.
Maybe in another ten years from now they will awknowledge that Vegeta crying is an actual thing too. I can see it now "something something Vegeta - watch the struggle of everyone`s favorite crying Saiyan"!
* The Manga in question being an expection, tho. It pretty much attacks the issue of his bad luck, not lack of potential or skill.
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by Kid Buu » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:29 pm
Logania wrote:Kid Buu wrote: None of the cast did that in the original 42 volumes.
Then Super happens, and is the butt money who never gets included in anything.
Okay that I can agree with (and I'm personally not a fan big fan of that direction).
Rocketman wrote:"Shonen" basically means "stupid sentimental shit" anyway, so it's ok to be anti-shonen.
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by Logania » Fri Mar 30, 2018 5:39 pm
Kid Buu wrote:
Okay that I can agree with (and I'm personally not a fan big fan of that direction).
I'm not either, as I do like Yamcha. Just weird how everyone is so shocked and outraged when it's been happening since RoF lol
"I can't increase my ability through some kind of noisy transformation the way Frost and you Saiyans do. If I wanna become more lethal, I don't have the luxury of cutting corners, I just have to do it the old-fashioned way.
Combat is craft. What matters most is not raw power, but the skill by which you hone it."
