ToshioWrites wrote:Sorry if this has already been discussion but do you guys think SSB KK and SSBE will show up in the movie?
I know this is a story after the ToP arc so presumably both manga and anime will adapt it but SSBKK is an anime only thing and SSBE probably won't be in the manga either ( MSSB is the replacement)
Will he just stick with regular blue and then UI iyo?
I honestly hope so.
It doesn't even have to be right away.
The appearance of SSB/KK and ESSB would be a good way to show how much farther Goku and Vegeta have come, as well as to establish just how dangerous the potential foe of the film could be by showing him/her defeating even this level of power from our two Saiyans.
ToshioWrites wrote:Sorry if this has already been discussion but do you guys think SSB KK and SSBE will show up in the movie?
I know this is a story after the ToP arc so presumably both manga and anime will adapt it but SSBKK is an anime only thing and SSBE probably won't be in the manga either ( MSSB is the replacement)
Will he just stick with regular blue and then UI iyo?
I think so, it would be really bizzare if they completely retcon two very important forms' existence just because they were anime only.
I also don't think Toriyama and Toei really care about consistency between the manga and the anime.
ToshioWrites wrote:Sorry if this has already been discussion but do you guys think SSB KK and SSBE will show up in the movie?
I know this is a story after the ToP arc so presumably both manga and anime will adapt it but SSBKK is an anime only thing and SSBE probably won't be in the manga either ( MSSB is the replacement)
Will he just stick with regular blue and then UI iyo?
This question has already come up a dozen times in this thread. A lot of people are wondering about that. My prediction is that none of the Super Saiyan God powers will be in the movie. Yamoshi, the one who makes Saiyan God powers possible, will lock off those transformations during the battle. Goku and Vegeta will have to rely on their standard Super Saiyan powers. Of course, that's just speculation, though. I expect that when Super comes back, Vegeta will be back to using his Evolution transformation, just like Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken returned after the Universal Tournament. But he'll probably only use it when he's being pushed, and it won't be something he uses every episode, also just like Goku with his Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken. It also seems implied that Ultra Instinct will only make a few rare appearances from now on, so SSBKK and SSGSSE will still be relevant.
ToshioWrites wrote:Sorry if this has already been discussion but do you guys think SSB KK and SSBE will show up in the movie?
I know this is a story after the ToP arc so presumably both manga and anime will adapt it but SSBKK is an anime only thing and SSBE probably won't be in the manga either ( MSSB is the replacement)
Will he just stick with regular blue and then UI iyo?
This question has already come up a dozen times in this thread. A lot of people are wondering about that. My prediction is that none of the Super Saiyan God powers will be in the movie. Yamoshi, the one who makes Saiyan God powers possible, will lock off those transformations during the battle. Goku and Vegeta will have to rely on their standard Super Saiyan powers. Of course, that's just speculation, though. I expect that when Super comes back, Vegeta will be back to using his Evolution transformation, just like Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken returned after the Universal Tournament. But he'll probably only use it when he's being pushed, and it won't be something he uses every episode, also just like Goku with his Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken. It also seems implied that Ultra Instinct will only make a few rare appearances from now on, so SSBKK and SSGSSE will still be relevant.
I think that SSBKK and SSGSSE will appear in the movie and maybe Ultra Instinct if the story calls it.
Majinwarman So I'm 'evil', huh? Interesting."
A world without Dragon Ball is just meh.
ToshioWrites wrote:Sorry if this has already been discussion but do you guys think SSB KK and SSBE will show up in the movie?
I know this is a story after the ToP arc so presumably both manga and anime will adapt it but SSBKK is an anime only thing and SSBE probably won't be in the manga either ( MSSB is the replacement)
Will he just stick with regular blue and then UI iyo?
This question has already come up a dozen times in this thread. A lot of people are wondering about that. My prediction is that none of the Super Saiyan God powers will be in the movie. Yamoshi, the one who makes Saiyan God powers possible, will lock off those transformations during the battle. Goku and Vegeta will have to rely on their standard Super Saiyan powers. Of course, that's just speculation, though. I expect that when Super comes back, Vegeta will be back to using his Evolution transformation, just like Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken returned after the Universal Tournament. But he'll probably only use it when he's being pushed, and it won't be something he uses every episode, also just like Goku with his Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken. It also seems implied that Ultra Instinct will only make a few rare appearances from now on, so SSBKK and SSGSSE will still be relevant.
Goku made the power his own and Vegeta never used the ritual so he can't lock their god forms.
Chuquita wrote:I'm enjoying this Toei DBS and Precure April Fools crossover movie joke:
[spoiler][/spoiler] https://mobile.twitter.com/animatetimes ... 4913482752
I'd also absolutely watch it if it were real; Hugtto's really good.
When i saw this for the first time at Herms’ twitter just a few minutes ago, the first and only person i had to immediately think about was you! xD
Chuquita wrote:I'm enjoying this Toei DBS and Precure April Fools crossover movie joke:
[spoiler][/spoiler] https://mobile.twitter.com/animatetimes ... 4913482752
I'd also absolutely watch it if it were real; Hugtto's really good.
When i saw this for the first time at Herms’ twitter just a few minutes ago, the first and only person i had to immediately think about was you! xD
My two favorite Toei properties together; that crossover poster, even though it's only an April Fools, made me happy.
Precure has some sensational animation staff members and it's a fun franchise; a crossover with Super would've been a thing of beauty.
I read that Toei was going to do a Precure April Fools this year for the first time; I didn't expect it to involve DBS.
Chuquita wrote:I'm enjoying this Toei DBS and Precure April Fools crossover movie joke:
[spoiler][/spoiler] https://mobile.twitter.com/animatetimes ... 4913482752
I'd also absolutely watch it if it were real; Hugtto's really good.
It's on the official Dragon Ball Super Movie website as well. Usually, the teaser trailer would show up when you enter the website, but now that April Fools crossover poster appears.
This April Fools joke crossover easily ties for my favorite rare db + precure with that time "Vegeta" showed up in the summer festival episode of Go! Princess Precure.
Chuquita wrote:I'm enjoying this Toei DBS and Precure April Fools crossover movie joke:
[spoiler][/spoiler] https://mobile.twitter.com/animatetimes ... 4913482752
I'd also absolutely watch it if it were real; Hugtto's really good.
I'd so watch that as well.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Chuquita wrote:I'm enjoying this Toei DBS and Precure April Fools crossover movie joke:
[spoiler][/spoiler] https://mobile.twitter.com/animatetimes ... 4913482752
I'd also absolutely watch it if it were real; Hugtto's really good.
I'd so watch that as well.
I want that to be a spinoff show to Super. I don't care about canon or how does this work, I just want it to happen.
Majinwarman So I'm 'evil', huh? Interesting."
A world without Dragon Ball is just meh.
Unless the villain was at SSB level himself, I honestly would rather not see anything but the classic SS forms in the movie. They always were the most organic of the SS powers. Kaioken isn't a Saiyan power so I wouldn't want it emphasized and ESSB isn't a legitimate form to me so I'm not begging for it either.
Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.
Keep in mind that Toriyama was involved in the Super anime and this movie is probably in the anime continuity, so Blue Evolution and Blue Kaioken are fairly likely to show up.
SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:Unless the villain was at SSB level himself, I honestly would rather not see anything but the classic SS forms in the movie. They always were the most organic of the SS powers. Kaioken isn't a Saiyan power so I wouldn't want it emphasized and ESSB isn't a legitimate form to me so I'm not begging for it either.
ArchedThunder wrote:Keep in mind that Toriyama was involved in the Super anime and this movie is probably in the anime continuity, so Blue Evolution and Blue Kaioken are fairly likely to show up.
SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:Unless the villain was at SSB level himself, I honestly would rather not see anything but the classic SS forms in the movie. They always were the most organic of the SS powers. Kaioken isn't a Saiyan power so I wouldn't want it emphasized and ESSB isn't a legitimate form to me so I'm not begging for it either.
So you want a villain who is weak???
Well, we don't know where the villain comes from to hold a standard for him. It would be hard to make sense of how he would have God ki himself. If he is an evil Saiyan god, that would be great because I don't like the ''good guys'' getting exclusivity like that from just heart-power. Though I still see this movie if an origin story, should be retroactive. At most I can accept SSB from Toriyama's vision of the form as it looked and sounded better in the ROF movie, but Toei just made the form look real lame now, and their extensions of it are questionable in their logic. Maybe I just want some nostalgia or seeing them go through the forms in an actual fight for the nostalgia of praising that evolution. Maybe save raw SSB for last?
Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.
ToshioWrites wrote:Sorry if this has already been discussion but do you guys think SSB KK and SSBE will show up in the movie?
I know this is a story after the ToP arc so presumably both manga and anime will adapt it but SSBKK is an anime only thing and SSBE probably won't be in the manga either ( MSSB is the replacement)
Will he just stick with regular blue and then UI iyo?
This question has already come up a dozen times in this thread. A lot of people are wondering about that. My prediction is that none of the Super Saiyan God powers will be in the movie. Yamoshi, the one who makes Saiyan God powers possible, will lock off those transformations during the battle. Goku and Vegeta will have to rely on their standard Super Saiyan powers. Of course, that's just speculation, though. I expect that when Super comes back, Vegeta will be back to using his Evolution transformation, just like Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken returned after the Universal Tournament. But he'll probably only use it when he's being pushed, and it won't be something he uses every episode, also just like Goku with his Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken. It also seems implied that Ultra Instinct will only make a few rare appearances from now on, so SSBKK and SSGSSE will still be relevant.
No chance the movie won't have SSGSS in some capacity. The form is too popular for them not too. There is a reason why DBS ended with it after all. After SS became a thing in Z how many films didn't use it? They all did.
ToshioWrites wrote:Sorry if this has already been discussion but do you guys think SSB KK and SSBE will show up in the movie?
I know this is a story after the ToP arc so presumably both manga and anime will adapt it but SSBKK is an anime only thing and SSBE probably won't be in the manga either ( MSSB is the replacement)
Will he just stick with regular blue and then UI iyo?
This question has already come up a dozen times in this thread. A lot of people are wondering about that. My prediction is that none of the Super Saiyan God powers will be in the movie. Yamoshi, the one who makes Saiyan God powers possible, will lock off those transformations during the battle. Goku and Vegeta will have to rely on their standard Super Saiyan powers. Of course, that's just speculation, though. I expect that when Super comes back, Vegeta will be back to using his Evolution transformation, just like Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken returned after the Universal Tournament. But he'll probably only use it when he's being pushed, and it won't be something he uses every episode, also just like Goku with his Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken. It also seems implied that Ultra Instinct will only make a few rare appearances from now on, so SSBKK and SSGSSE will still be relevant.
No chance the movie won't have SSGSS in some capacity. The form is too popular for them not too. There is a reason why DBS ended with it after all. After SS became a thing in Z how many films didn't use it? They all did.
They have to keep marketing these forms in order for the fandom to still care about them.
Majinwarman So I'm 'evil', huh? Interesting."
A world without Dragon Ball is just meh.
I like them to reserve UI for special occations, but one could argue: ain't this movie special enough to do so? They've hyped UI up so hard in the TOP-arc, so i don't see why they would't use it now in the movie like a trumph card. But only in the very very end of the fight (last 10 minutes). We would all be surprised it still came at the end.
One reason why i would appreciate UI in this movie, i just think perfected UI with the aura would look drop-dread-awesome to see on the big screen, along with the orchestry kicking in doing the UI-score, it could grant an awesome experience.
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