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Post by prince212 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 9:03 pm

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I doubt it, since Toyotaro is also a Broly fanboy, so we can expect much more homages than in the anime.
Where did you read that he’s a broly fanboy ?
I read that Toei came up with kale-broly and Toriyama with caoulifla
Since broly was in AF iirc people think he’s a huge broly fan
Ahhh ok , I remember now , he was revived there , I guess that was the only saiyan that he recall to make 7 , and could be he likes broly .. what a coincidence with super that ritual of get some saiyans together .
18-Ribrianne and that small u11 guy have sense to be in next chapter
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LightBing wrote:I doubt Toyotarõ will jump to the U6 Saiyans immediately. He paved two plots at the start of the tournament: Freeza/Frost and #18/Ribrianne.

My hope is 60% dedicated to #18 and the rest to what the other Universes are doing whilst setting up for next month Vegeta interacting with Universe 6; be it Cabba, Hit, Caulifla or Kale.
That sounds interesting. I'm kinda hoping toyotaro does Ribrianne justice. Maybe she eliminates Android 18 instead.

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Post by Sora Saiyan » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:29 am

Kenneth La Torre wrote:I'm guessing next chapter will be about brol- i mean kale going berserk and it will end with jiren one shotting her. I wonder if toyotaro will have goku use ssb against her. He does treat ssb as a very special form, only being used against characters who are actually at that level or above
It’s really hard say if Blue will be used. I would usually say definitely not, but for some reason Kale just seems to be a total freak when she’s only in her base form, being able to steal that necklace off of SSJ Cabba before he could notice. It should be interesting to see where her base power caps. I’m thinking Goku uses SSJ3 (the power drain might put him off), or SSJG. Either way we’ll have a rough idea of where she sits.

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LightBing wrote:I doubt Toyotarõ will jump to the U6 Saiyans immediately. He paved two plots at the start of the tournament: Freeza/Frost and #18/Ribrianne.

My hope is 60% dedicated to #18 and the rest to what the other Universes are doing whilst setting up for next month Vegeta interacting with Universe 6; be it Cabba, Hit, Caulifla or Kale.
That sounds interesting. I'm kinda hoping toyotaro does Ribrianne justice. Maybe she eliminates Android 18 instead.
I hope she won't, I liked how the anime handled 18's and Ribrianne's eliminations and i'm hoping something similar will happen in the manga as well. It would be so bad and predictable if Ribrianne eliminates 18, then Ribrianne gets eliminated by 17 right after. 18 most likely won't get eliminated till Piccolo goes out anyway. Something tells me the next chapter will mostly focus on Roshi.
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I hope she won't, I liked how the anime handled 18's and Ribrianne's eliminations and i'm hoping something similar will happen in the manga as well. It would be so bad and predictable if Ribrianne eliminates 18, then Ribrianne gets eliminated by 17 right after. 18 most likely won't get eliminated till Piccolo goes out anyway. Something tells me the next chapter will mostly focus on Roshi.
I mean I'd rather see an interesting twist as opposed to the same elimination. Can't really call it predictable if you don't know how it's gonna happen. If anything the opposite, 18 winning, would be predictable..
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Kenneth La Torre wrote:I'm guessing next chapter will be about brol- i mean kale going berserk and it will end with jiren one shotting her. I wonder if toyotaro will have goku use ssb against her. He does treat ssb as a very special form, only being used against characters who are actually at that level or above
It’s really hard say if Blue will be used. I would usually say definitely not, but for some reason Kale just seems to be a total freak when she’s only in her base form, being able to steal that necklace off of SSJ Cabba before he could notice. It should be interesting to see where her base power caps. I’m thinking Goku uses SSJ3 (the power drain might put him off), or SSJG. Either way we’ll have a rough idea of where she sits.
Hopefully he doesn't have to transform. Jiren should intervene before he gets the chance to so he can demonstrate his strength. Then the chapter afterwards could be about Goku wanting to challenge Jiren.



(1) If the next chapter is going to be about Roshi, I'd rather see him go up against U10. It'd be interesting to see him face against other Martial Artists and probably enforce that the Kame-Style is the superior martial arts style. He either tires out or is eliminated by another fighter. I wonder who he will use the Mafuuba against.

(2) If the next chapter is about Kale and Caulifla (Hoping it isn't, feels too soon to have another U6 centric Chapter), then I feel it'd involve Caulifla getting a bit cocky about her new Saiyan Form and gets embarrased like Vegeta in the Cell Arc, only to have Kale step in to help.

I have a feeling Kale already knows about her Berserker form rather than finding it out and not knowing how to willingly access it. Kale will easily deal with a couple of the members, but then gets attacked by more powerful fighters. When she has her back against the wall, she will most likely reveal to Caulfila her berserk form. Caulifla will then gain even more respect for Kale.
(Like she did for Cabba after showing his SSJ Form)
(They don't seem have to the same sisterly relationship like in the anime, so maybe this is how it develops?)

(3) If the next chapter will be about 18 and Ribrianne, it hopefully won't be just centered on them like LightBing stated. If it is, it better lead to 18's elimination. I'd like to see a turn of events. Maybe the elimination order won't be the same as the anime. We don't really know do we? Hopefully it isn't because then that would just make it boring.

I wish we could get a hint towards the next chapter like the anime's Next Episode Previews! I need something to be excited and spectulate about!!!!

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Post by TheDipDap1234 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:55 pm

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I hope she won't, I liked how the anime handled 18's and Ribrianne's eliminations and i'm hoping something similar will happen in the manga as well. It would be so bad and predictable if Ribrianne eliminates 18, then Ribrianne gets eliminated by 17 right after. 18 most likely won't get eliminated till Piccolo goes out anyway. Something tells me the next chapter will mostly focus on Roshi.
I mean I'd rather see an interesting twist as opposed to the same elimination. Can't really call it predictable if you don't know how it's gonna happen. If anything the opposite, 18 winning, would be predictable..
The only reason 18 winning would be predictable is because she already won in the anime version, but Ribrianne winning would be predictable too. Before the Ribrianne vs 18 episode aired, pretty much everyone in the fandom thought 18 will lose to Ribrianne. Those who didn't watch the anime and only read the manga would definitely think 18 getting eliminated by Ribrianne was predictable.
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Post by Vegeta_Sama » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:14 pm

Exline wrote:
TheDipDap1234 wrote:
I hope she won't, I liked how the anime handled 18's and Ribrianne's eliminations and i'm hoping something similar will happen in the manga as well. It would be so bad and predictable if Ribrianne eliminates 18, then Ribrianne gets eliminated by 17 right after. 18 most likely won't get eliminated till Piccolo goes out anyway. Something tells me the next chapter will mostly focus on Roshi.
I mean I'd rather see an interesting twist as opposed to the same elimination. Can't really call it predictable if you don't know how it's gonna happen. If anything the opposite, 18 winning, would be predictable..
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Kenneth La Torre wrote:I'm guessing next chapter will be about brol- i mean kale going berserk and it will end with jiren one shotting her. I wonder if toyotaro will have goku use ssb against her. He does treat ssb as a very special form, only being used against characters who are actually at that level or above
It’s really hard say if Blue will be used. I would usually say definitely not, but for some reason Kale just seems to be a total freak when she’s only in her base form, being able to steal that necklace off of SSJ Cabba before he could notice. It should be interesting to see where her base power caps. I’m thinking Goku uses SSJ3 (the power drain might put him off), or SSJG. Either way we’ll have a rough idea of where she sits.
Hopefully he doesn't have to transform. Jiren should intervene before he gets the chance to so he can demonstrate his strength. Then the chapter afterwards could be about Goku wanting to challenge Jiren.



(1) If the next chapter is going to be about Roshi, I'd rather see him go up against U10. It'd be interesting to see him face against other Martial Artists and probably enforce that the Kame-Style is the superior martial arts style. He either tires out or is eliminated by another fighter. I wonder who he will use the Mafuuba against.

(2) If the next chapter is about Kale and Caulifla (Hoping it isn't, feels too soon to have another U6 centric Chapter), then I feel it'd involve Caulifla getting a bit cocky about her new Saiyan Form and gets embarrased like Vegeta in the Cell Arc, only to have Kale step in to help.

I have a feeling Kale already knows about her Berserker form rather than finding it out and not knowing how to willingly access it. Kale will easily deal with a couple of the members, but then gets attacked by more powerful fighters. When she has her back against the wall, she will most likely reveal to Caulfila her berserk form. Caulifla will then gain even more respect for Kale.
(Like she did for Cabba after showing his SSJ Form)
(They don't seem have to the same sisterly relationship like in the anime, so maybe this is how it develops?)

(3) If the next chapter will be about 18 and Ribrianne, it hopefully won't be just centered on them like LightBing stated. If it is, it better lead to 18's elimination. I'd like to see a turn of events. Maybe the elimination order won't be the same as the anime. We don't really know do we? Hopefully it isn't because then that would just make it boring.

I wish we could get a hint towards the next chapter like the anime's Next Episode Previews! I need something to be excited and spectulate about!!!!
We know for a fact that the elimination order has been written by Toryiama personally, so it's highly unlikely that it will change. Yes, I know Toyo likes to play around with the outlines, but he's only allowed to change a small amount of details. Major plotpoints like eliminations are always left untouched.
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Post by majinwarman » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:00 pm

Vegeta_Sama wrote:
Exline wrote:
TheDipDap1234 wrote:
I hope she won't, I liked how the anime handled 18's and Ribrianne's eliminations and i'm hoping something similar will happen in the manga as well. It would be so bad and predictable if Ribrianne eliminates 18, then Ribrianne gets eliminated by 17 right after. 18 most likely won't get eliminated till Piccolo goes out anyway. Something tells me the next chapter will mostly focus on Roshi.
I mean I'd rather see an interesting twist as opposed to the same elimination. Can't really call it predictable if you don't know how it's gonna happen. If anything the opposite, 18 winning, would be predictable..
Sora Saiyan wrote: It’s really hard say if Blue will be used. I would usually say definitely not, but for some reason Kale just seems to be a total freak when she’s only in her base form, being able to steal that necklace off of SSJ Cabba before he could notice. It should be interesting to see where her base power caps. I’m thinking Goku uses SSJ3 (the power drain might put him off), or SSJG. Either way we’ll have a rough idea of where she sits.
Hopefully he doesn't have to transform. Jiren should intervene before he gets the chance to so he can demonstrate his strength. Then the chapter afterwards could be about Goku wanting to challenge Jiren.



(1) If the next chapter is going to be about Roshi, I'd rather see him go up against U10. It'd be interesting to see him face against other Martial Artists and probably enforce that the Kame-Style is the superior martial arts style. He either tires out or is eliminated by another fighter. I wonder who he will use the Mafuuba against.

(2) If the next chapter is about Kale and Caulifla (Hoping it isn't, feels too soon to have another U6 centric Chapter), then I feel it'd involve Caulifla getting a bit cocky about her new Saiyan Form and gets embarrased like Vegeta in the Cell Arc, only to have Kale step in to help.

I have a feeling Kale already knows about her Berserker form rather than finding it out and not knowing how to willingly access it. Kale will easily deal with a couple of the members, but then gets attacked by more powerful fighters. When she has her back against the wall, she will most likely reveal to Caulfila her berserk form. Caulifla will then gain even more respect for Kale.
(Like she did for Cabba after showing his SSJ Form)
(They don't seem have to the same sisterly relationship like in the anime, so maybe this is how it develops?)

(3) If the next chapter will be about 18 and Ribrianne, it hopefully won't be just centered on them like LightBing stated. If it is, it better lead to 18's elimination. I'd like to see a turn of events. Maybe the elimination order won't be the same as the anime. We don't really know do we? Hopefully it isn't because then that would just make it boring.

I wish we could get a hint towards the next chapter like the anime's Next Episode Previews! I need something to be excited and spectulate about!!!!
We know for a fact that the elimination order has been written by Toryiama personally, so it's highly unlikely that it will change. Yes, I know Toyo likes to play around with the outlines, but he's only allowed to change a small amount of details. Major plotpoints like eliminations are always left untouched.
Do you believe that we will get some huge next chapter or not? Like a Kale going crazy moment or something else?
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Post by Kenneth La Torre » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:04 pm

In the anime, right after universe 9 got erased was when we got the broly episode. So I'm 60% sure the next manga chapter will be about kale.
Besides the minor caharcters being eliminated, everytjing major is going just as how the anime went.

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majinwarman wrote:
Vegeta_Sama wrote: We know for a fact that the elimination order has been written by Toryiama personally, so it's highly unlikely that it will change. Yes, I know Toyo likes to play around with the outlines, but he's only allowed to change a small amount of details. Major plotpoints like eliminations are always left untouched.
Do you believe that we will get some huge next chapter or not? Like a Kale going crazy moment or something else?
When I read the outline translated by Herms, it states:

"Toriyama's original draft included a document describing what happens to the U7 warriors in the tournament, from beginning to end. This included who Piccolo (for instance) loses to, and who survives to the end. The document included all the main points such as the battle between U7 and U11."

Original draft makes it sound as if a new draft had been written. And the fact that he follows it up with saying that the OG draft detailed who Piccolo lost to, doesn't it make you wonder if they're changing the order from the original? In the anime, Tien lost to Hermila and Prum, not Frost. I think it's all subject to change honestly. It doesn't seem like the order of eliminations or who these characters lose to could be set in stone. I'd be grateful for that cause it makes the two different continuities more interesting.

I understand I could be wrong, but we don't have to rule out something so easily.

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Vegeta_Sama wrote: We know for a fact that the elimination order has been written by Toryiama personally, so it's highly unlikely that it will change. Yes, I know Toyo likes to play around with the outlines, but he's only allowed to change a small amount of details. Major plotpoints like eliminations are always left untouched.
Do you believe that we will get some huge next chapter or not? Like a Kale going crazy moment or something else?
I don't know if u were talking to me or Vegeta_Sama but yeah. I want to see the arena messed up by her like in the anime. That was a pretty sick moment in the anime. I never understood why people didn't enjoy episode 100. The only problem for me was Blue going against Berserker, only to learn that SSJ God is stronger than Berserk. Doesn't make sense as to why Goku struggled so much.

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Post by majinwarman » Wed Apr 04, 2018 3:21 pm

Exline wrote:
majinwarman wrote:
Vegeta_Sama wrote: We know for a fact that the elimination order has been written by Toryiama personally, so it's highly unlikely that it will change. Yes, I know Toyo likes to play around with the outlines, but he's only allowed to change a small amount of details. Major plotpoints like eliminations are always left untouched.
Do you believe that we will get some huge next chapter or not? Like a Kale going crazy moment or something else?
When I read the outline translated by Herms, it states:

"Toriyama's original draft included a document describing what happens to the U7 warriors in the tournament, from beginning to end. This included who Piccolo (for instance) loses to, and who survives to the end. The document included all the main points such as the battle between U7 and U11."

Original draft makes it sound as if a new draft had been written. And the fact that he follows it up with saying that the OG draft detailed who Piccolo lost to, doesn't it make you wonder if they're changing the order from the original? In the anime, Tien lost to Hermila and Prum, not Frost. I think it's all subject to change honestly. It doesn't seem like the order of eliminations or who these characters lose to could be set in stone. I'd be grateful for that cause it makes the two different continuities more interesting.

I understand I could be wrong, but we don't have to rule out something so easily.

Remember when everyone thought 17 was dead? Hahaha

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Vegeta_Sama wrote: We know for a fact that the elimination order has been written by Toryiama personally, so it's highly unlikely that it will change. Yes, I know Toyo likes to play around with the outlines, but he's only allowed to change a small amount of details. Major plotpoints like eliminations are always left untouched.
Do you believe that we will get some huge next chapter or not? Like a Kale going crazy moment or something else?
I don't know if u were talking to me or Vegeta_Sama but yeah. I want to see the arena messed up by her like in the anime. That was a pretty sick moment in the anime. I never understood why people didn't enjoy episode 100. The only problem for me was Blue going against Berserker, only to learn that SSJ God is stronger than Berserk. Doesn't make sense as to why Goku struggled so much.
I too also enjoyed that Kale moment! I don't think that Kale is going to fight Goku using Blue at all. I think if they do fight, Goku will mostly likely use SSG.
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majinwarman wrote:I too also enjoyed that Kale moment! I don't think that Kale is going to fight Goku using Blue at all. I think if they do fight, Goku will mostly likely use SSG.
I am curious about how Kale's personality will be worked into the manga, so far so good with making her more of a character who is a stoic watchdog and servant to Caulifla but apathetic to everyone else around her as opposed to being just insecure (with no backstory basis). It being under Caulifla's own nose makes a lot of room for development if their relationship wasn't already established from the start like it is in the anime, but progressively as things get in between them in order to get Kale angry. What will trigger her Berserk transformation? I don't like the scenario of Goku just "training" Caulifla and yelling at her to leave, because its a battle royal, she is supposed to gang up on whomever she wants. That was just another dumb thing from the anime.
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Post by TKA » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:45 pm

Broly is a bad character and his movies all suck. I don't enjoy being forced to relive them. Hopefully the manga does something very different.
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Exline wrote:"Toriyama's original draft included a document describing what happens to the U7 warriors in the tournament, from beginning to end. This included who Piccolo (for instance) loses to, and who survives to the end. The document included all the main points such as the battle between U7 and U11."

Original draft makes it sound as if a new draft had been written. And the fact that he follows it up with saying that the OG draft detailed who Piccolo lost to, doesn't it make you wonder if they're changing the order from the original? In the anime, Tien lost to Hermila and Prum, not Frost. I think it's all subject to change honestly. It doesn't seem like the order of eliminations or who these characters lose to could be set in stone. I'd be grateful for that cause it makes the two different continuities more interesting
Absolutely there’s big possibilities of some mayor changes in the order and who eliminate who , otherwise the follow quote has no sense
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Post by CriticalThinker » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:34 pm

I think that U7 elimination order will be the same the only difference being which characters eliminate them. Granted I don't have much to back up my claim other than Tien being eliminated by Frost. But since the elimination order is the same as the anime so far I expect Roshi to go out in the next chapter. Now I'm wondering just how well he will do compared to his anime counter part. Since Frost is already out I feel like he might be done after his fight with Ganos, if he does fight him in this version. If Roshi does indeed get knocked out by some other fighter instead of going out on his own terms next chapter and my guess is correct, than I hope whoever ends up eliminating Piccolo is different. Piccolo's elimination in my opinion was handled pretty poorly in the anime and I hold out hope it's done better here.

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Post by OLKv3 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 10:52 pm

prince212 wrote:
Exline wrote:"Toriyama's original draft included a document describing what happens to the U7 warriors in the tournament, from beginning to end. This included who Piccolo (for instance) loses to, and who survives to the end. The document included all the main points such as the battle between U7 and U11."

Original draft makes it sound as if a new draft had been written. And the fact that he follows it up with saying that the OG draft detailed who Piccolo lost to, doesn't it make you wonder if they're changing the order from the original? In the anime, Tien lost to Hermila and Prum, not Frost. I think it's all subject to change honestly. It doesn't seem like the order of eliminations or who these characters lose to could be set in stone. I'd be grateful for that cause it makes the two different continuities more interesting
Absolutely there’s big possibilities of some mayor changes in the order and who eliminate who , otherwise the follow quote has no sense
Dragon Ball Super comic drawn by Toyotarō (on sale now up through volume 5!) will keep on going as-is. I think there will also be story developments different from the TV show and the movie, so please look forward to that as well. I will be, too!
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The quote explains the same thing that has always been happening in the manga. It has differences but nothing big enough to actually change the scope of the story.
The elimination order is the same but looks like who they get eliminated by might be slightly different.

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Post by Exline » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:12 pm

SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:
majinwarman wrote:I too also enjoyed that Kale moment! I don't think that Kale is going to fight Goku using Blue at all. I think if they do fight, Goku will mostly likely use SSG.
I am curious about how Kale's personality will be worked into the manga, so far so good with making her more of a character who is a stoic watchdog and servant to Caulifla but apathetic to everyone else around her as opposed to being just insecure (with no backstory basis). It being under Caulifla's own nose makes a lot of room for development if their relationship wasn't already established from the start like it is in the anime, but progressively as things get in between them in order to get Kale angry. What will trigger her Berserk transformation? I don't like the scenario of Goku just "training" Caulifla and yelling at her to leave, because its a battle royal, she is supposed to gang up on whomever she wants. That was just another dumb thing from the anime.
Yeah that scene did feel really awkward. I didn't mind it tho. Her reason for turning Berserk was stupid, but it was so stupid that I liked it, same with Broly's reasoning lmao. It's odd and questionable and different from the typical rivalry set ups.

I really hope it's set up that Kale already knows about the form and even hints it to her opponent, as if she were a female version of Bruce Banner: "You won't like me when I'm angry..", then she gets that trigger when shes backed against the wall with no one to help. It'd be interesting to see her lose control as well like the anime did.
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prince212 wrote:
Exline wrote:"Toriyama's original draft included a document describing what happens to the U7 warriors in the tournament, from beginning to end. This included who Piccolo (for instance) loses to, and who survives to the end. The document included all the main points such as the battle between U7 and U11."

Original draft makes it sound as if a new draft had been written. And the fact that he follows it up with saying that the OG draft detailed who Piccolo lost to, doesn't it make you wonder if they're changing the order from the original? In the anime, Tien lost to Hermila and Prum, not Frost. I think it's all subject to change honestly. It doesn't seem like the order of eliminations or who these characters lose to could be set in stone. I'd be grateful for that cause it makes the two different continuities more interesting
Absolutely there’s big possibilities of some mayor changes in the order and who eliminate who , otherwise the follow quote has no sense
Dragon Ball Super comic drawn by Toyotarō (on sale now up through volume 5!) will keep on going as-is. I think there will also be story developments different from the TV show and the movie, so please look forward to that as well. I will be, too!
— Akira Toriyama
The quote explains the same thing that has always been happening in the manga. It has differences but nothing big enough to actually change the scope of the story.
The elimination order is the same but looks like who they get eliminated by might be slightly different.
It's speculated that it's the same tbh. We really shouldn't be lowering our expectations that low, especially for the manga.

The quote states that there was an original draft, hinting that a new draft was made afterwards. Herm's translation even states Caulifla and Kale were not even in the original draft either. Things are subject to change.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Kenneth La Torre » Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:29 am

OLKv3 wrote:
prince212 wrote:
Exline wrote:"Toriyama's original draft included a document describing what happens to the U7 warriors in the tournament, from beginning to end. This included who Piccolo (for instance) loses to, and who survives to the end. The document included all the main points such as the battle between U7 and U11."

Original draft makes it sound as if a new draft had been written. And the fact that he follows it up with saying that the OG draft detailed who Piccolo lost to, doesn't it make you wonder if they're changing the order from the original? In the anime, Tien lost to Hermila and Prum, not Frost. I think it's all subject to change honestly. It doesn't seem like the order of eliminations or who these characters lose to could be set in stone. I'd be grateful for that cause it makes the two different continuities more interesting
Absolutely there’s big possibilities of some mayor changes in the order and who eliminate who , otherwise the follow quote has no sense
Dragon Ball Super comic drawn by Toyotarō (on sale now up through volume 5!) will keep on going as-is. I think there will also be story developments different from the TV show and the movie, so please look forward to that as well. I will be, too!
— Akira Toriyama
The quote explains the same thing that has always been happening in the manga. It has differences but nothing big enough to actually change the scope of the story.
The elimination order is the same but looks like who they get eliminated by might be slightly different.
Yeah. Its already been stated that theres an order on how universe 11 and 7 warriors get eliminated and how. So major characters will get eliminated how the outline says, while the minor characters can change (frost took out universe 9)

I'm still anxious to see how toyotaro handles things tho. It wont be the same as in the anime, which is why i dont mind the manga being so far behind.

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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by prince212 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 12:31 am

Exline wrote:
OLKv3 wrote:
prince212 wrote: Absolutely there’s big possibilities of some mayor changes in the order and who eliminate who , otherwise the follow quote has no sense
The quote explains the same thing that has always been happening in the manga. It has differences but nothing big enough to actually change the scope of the story.
The elimination order is the same but looks like who they get eliminated by might be slightly different.
It's speculated that it's the same tbh. We really shouldn't be lowering our expectations that low, especially for the manga.

The quote states that there was an original draft, hinting that a new draft was made afterwards. Herm's translation even states Caulifla and Kale were not even in the original draft either. Things are subject to change.
At the end it’s up to Toriyama himself approving toyotaros ideas if he play risk , of course the end of the tournament has to be the same .
Toriyama already corrected some of Toyo raw drafts that played risk like belmod and marcarita being “lovers”, but I hope those words of him saying that he will look forward to different developments and the need of keep the flame of the manga , will be traslate into different battles protagonist [spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Post by OLKv3 » Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:16 am

Exline wrote:
SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:
majinwarman wrote:I too also enjoyed that Kale moment! I don't think that Kale is going to fight Goku using Blue at all. I think if they do fight, Goku will mostly likely use SSG.
I am curious about how Kale's personality will be worked into the manga, so far so good with making her more of a character who is a stoic watchdog and servant to Caulifla but apathetic to everyone else around her as opposed to being just insecure (with no backstory basis). It being under Caulifla's own nose makes a lot of room for development if their relationship wasn't already established from the start like it is in the anime, but progressively as things get in between them in order to get Kale angry. What will trigger her Berserk transformation? I don't like the scenario of Goku just "training" Caulifla and yelling at her to leave, because its a battle royal, she is supposed to gang up on whomever she wants. That was just another dumb thing from the anime.
Yeah that scene did feel really awkward. I didn't mind it tho. Her reason for turning Berserk was stupid, but it was so stupid that I liked it, same with Broly's reasoning lmao. It's odd and questionable and different from the typical rivalry set ups.

I really hope it's set up that Kale already knows about the form and even hints it to her opponent, as if she were a female version of Bruce Banner: "You won't like me when I'm angry..", then she gets that trigger when shes backed against the wall with no one to help. It'd be interesting to see her lose control as well like the anime did.
OLKv3 wrote:
prince212 wrote: Absolutely there’s big possibilities of some mayor changes in the order and who eliminate who , otherwise the follow quote has no sense
The quote explains the same thing that has always been happening in the manga. It has differences but nothing big enough to actually change the scope of the story.
The elimination order is the same but looks like who they get eliminated by might be slightly different.
It's speculated that it's the same tbh. We really shouldn't be lowering our expectations that low, especially for the manga.

The quote states that there was an original draft, hinting that a new draft was made afterwards. Herm's translation even states Caulifla and Kale were not even in the original draft either. Things are subject to change.
Dude, people do this every month expecting major changes when it's never been that. Toyotaro still has to tell the same story, he's not making wild changes, just enough that makes it interesting without ruining a summary. The big major moments are always the same

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