Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[AnimeNation101]

Toriyama will probably have a canon-ending for the official story in mind and he'll probably like to make an animated version of it. I doubt this movie will be that ending.

After the Goku-main storyline has ended, it could split up in all different kinds of continuations and spin-offs, as the franchise is financially too intresting to quit along with Toriyama.

I have faith in the quality of this movie plot aside from the animation.

This movie isn't that ending, not by a longshot. So far we've gotten 5 new stories from Toriyama with the next movie being the 6th one so we might get 4 more when the anime's back. One story I know we'll get for sure is a tournament between U7 and the other 4 universes that didn't take part in the TOP. If Goku wins that then he'll truly become the strongest fighter to ever live and I think he will as that'll be a great and definitive ending to his and DB's story.

I highly doubt we'll get some crazy everyone dies kind of ending so chances are they'll be able to continue on with Goku once Toriyama's done. I personally would prefer them to take a long break before and just let us take in all this new content for awhile but chances are they'll rush it and we'll end up with another GT like franchise killer. Based on him turning down their movie ideas, they clearly still don't have what it takes to move on without him.

I'm not the biggest fan of yet another saiyan story but the new interview has me very interested in it so hopefully it'll be worth it.

Thats just a repetitive plot line. And the T.o.P wasn’t even that good. Why have another arc that copies a previous one that was already flawed? And on top of that, why would the 4 other universes even participate in a Tournament? They have the highest mortal levels. And if the answer is because Zeno just wants one, that just gets rid of tension because either no universes get erased or the universes get erased for no reason because at least in the T.o.P, Zeno had a reason to erase the universes.

I rather have another, more original arc that somehow incorporates the other 4 universes.

[PFM18]

I kinda disagree. I feel like that would go against Freeza’s development in the T.o.P. He’s still an evil and selfish person but he’s gotten over his revenge. He still resents the saiyans but not the point where he would go out of his way to another universe just to kill the other saiyans. Right now, it seems like he would just go back to re-building his empireinstaed of just trying to cause conflict with saiyans.

I don't think there is any reason to believe that his animosity towards the Saiyans is behind him. He made a comment to Cabba about hating Saiyans and took him out the first chance he got even though he knew Vegeta was trying to help him and they were allied with U7 at the time of this shenanigans.

I never said it was behind him. I said that he doesn’t have enough resentment and animosity to go out looking for trouble in another universe just to kill off there saiyans. Freeza doesn’t hold as much of a grudge by the end of the T.o.P because he and Goku now how mutual respect (to some degree).

Goku and Freeza have mutual respect but he still hates Saiyans with a passion enough to where I wouldn't put it past him to want to massacre the Saiyans again. He just likes killing people in general so I mean being Saiyan is a huge bonus. He now is alive and knows that other saiyans exist so I would think it is in his character to try and destroy them all especially knowing now that Cabba is one of the strongest and he disposed of him very easily.

[sintzu]

Thats just a repetitive plot line. Why have another arc that copies a previous one that was already flawed ? Why would the 4 other universes even participate in a Tournament ? If the answer is because Zeno just wants one, that just gets rid of tension because no universe gets erased.

I rather have another, more original arc that somehow incorporates the other 4 universes.

The original DB had 3 tournaments and although the TOP was very flawed, it was nothing that can't be fixed in a future one. In terms of why, why not ? there doesn't need to be some big thing about a universe getting erased, it can just be like the 21st and 22nd Tenkaichis where the goal is to test everyone and see who's the strongest fighter. Look at how much Goku and Vegeta improved from Champa's tournament to the TOP so if they make the same jump to another one then we'll be in for an amazing ride.

That could be done as the tournament could be used as a way to figure out who are the top fighters in the 5 universes who can take care of a problem the tournament will lead into.

[Toxin45]

Your name reflects your comment. You must not have fully ready my post becuase i said trthat “Freeza doesn’t hold AS MUCH of a grudge” by the end of the T.o.P and thats what was implied. Freeza didn’t try to death beam Goku our even call him a filthy monkey. The whole theme of Goku and Freeza vs Jiren is Trust vs power and Trust won. Goku and Freeza had a degree of trust. And Freeza isn’t gonna become a less serious villain who comes every arc just to get defeated. Freeza probably wont ever be a villain for the characters ever again. He won’t go looking for trouble with them anymore.

Nah he even said that they will meet again someday dude and also Frieza is still training and he is gonna reappear in the movie dude. Also Frieza is gonna train now did you see the four months training and meditate in hell who is to say he is gonna get stronger from more training now he is just more pragimic now he is painterly waiting for revenge dude.

No where was it implied that he was training up for revenge. The whole “meeting again someday” thing is just what they say for every antagonist when they say goodbye. The fact that he says someday means that he isn’t going out looking for revenge but is just saying goodbye and that they’ll see each other again sooner or later. There is no sense of bloodthirsty in that line. And all that was said is that we will cover history with Freeza and the saiyans. That could just be told by Whis or something. Nothing confirms that Freeza is coming back for revenge against Goku at all.

The whole idea of Freeza coming back for revenge is repetitive and stupid anyway.

Just like how revisting the Saiyans concept is and also Frieza is the franchises recurring villain he will now be appearing more story arcs now regardless if he wants revenge or not or even if he is the villain or not he is still Goku's most personal enemy. Also it stated that Frieza will be involved in the upcoming movie anyway.

[Doctor.]

Eh, I'm 99% certain that was a dub thing.

It wasn't. But it was anime-only.

Toriyama doesn't typically plan that far ahead.

He did, actually. Or lucky coincidence.

[spoiler][/spoiler]

A better translation would be "I have a tail so maybe I ain't human."

[AnimeNation101]

I don't think there is any reason to believe that his animosity towards the Saiyans is behind him. He made a comment to Cabba about hating Saiyans and took him out the first chance he got even though he knew Vegeta was trying to help him and they were allied with U7 at the time of this shenanigans.

I never said it was behind him. I said that he doesn’t have enough resentment and animosity to go out looking for trouble in another universe just to kill off there saiyans. Freeza doesn’t hold as much of a grudge by the end of the T.o.P because he and Goku now how mutual respect (to some degree).

Goku and Freeza have mutual respect but he still hates Saiyans with a passion enough to where I wouldn't put it past him to want to massacre the Saiyans again. He just likes killing people in general so I mean being Saiyan is a huge bonus. He now is alive and knows that other saiyans exist so I would think it is in his character to try and destroy them all especially knowing now that Cabba is one of the strongest and he disposed of him very easily.

I disagree, between Freeza building a degree of respect and trust with Goku over the T.o.P and his quick death in RoF, I think he’s learned not to just head straight into revenge but plan out and do what benefits him most. He is more of someone who would toy with and then kill a saiyan he FINDS but not someone who is so blinded by hatred that he’d go out of his way to another universe just to kill its saiyans. Its not in his character. And if he has so little hatred that he can work with Goku so well, i think he doesn’t have enough hatred to go to another universe just to kill a completely different race of saiyans.

[AnimeNation101]

Nah he even said that they will meet again someday dude and also Frieza is still training and he is gonna reappear in the movie dude. Also Frieza is gonna train now did you see the four months training and meditate in hell who is to say he is gonna get stronger from more training now he is just more pragimic now he is painterly waiting for revenge dude.

No where was it implied that he was training up for revenge. The whole “meeting again someday” thing is just what they say for every antagonist when they say goodbye. The fact that he says someday means that he isn’t going out looking for revenge but is just saying goodbye and that they’ll see each other again sooner or later. There is no sense of bloodthirsty in that line. And all that was said is that we will cover history with Freeza and the saiyans. That could just be told by Whis or something. Nothing confirms that Freeza is coming back for revenge against Goku at all.

The whole idea of Freeza coming back for revenge is repetitive and stupid anyway.

Just like how revisting the Saiyans concept is and also Frieza is the franchises recurring villain he will now be appearing more story arcs now regardless if he wants revenge or not or even if he is the villain or not he is still Goku's most personal enemy. Also it stated that Frieza will be involved in the upcoming movie anyway.

Revisiting the concept isn’t stupid or repetitive because we’ll actually be getting lore. We know almost nothing about the saiyan’s ancient history or full involvement with freeza. We didn’t even know about how they went SSJ until Toriyama mentioned S-Cells in that interview.

I never said that Freeza WON’T appear more. You were the one who said that he was out for revenge against the saiyans. I’m daying that he has enough respect for him not to go looking for revenge. If he shows up in a later arc, chances are that it won’t be to get revenge. And they said we would get backstory on Freeza and the saiyans involvement. It was never said that Freeza would show up in the present of the movie.

[Toxin45]

No where was it implied that he was training up for revenge. The whole “meeting again someday” thing is just what they say for every antagonist when they say goodbye. The fact that he says someday means that he isn’t going out looking for revenge but is just saying goodbye and that they’ll see each other again sooner or later. There is no sense of bloodthirsty in that line. And all that was said is that we will cover history with Freeza and the saiyans. That could just be told by Whis or something. Nothing confirms that Freeza is coming back for revenge against Goku at all.

The whole idea of Freeza coming back for revenge is repetitive and stupid anyway.

Just like how revisting the Saiyans concept is and also Frieza is the franchises recurring villain he will now be appearing more story arcs now regardless if he wants revenge or not or even if he is the villain or not he is still Goku's most personal enemy. Also it stated that Frieza will be involved in the upcoming movie anyway.

Revisiting the concept isn’t stupid or repetitive because we’ll actually be getting lore. We know almost nothing about the saiyan’s ancient history or full involvement with freeza. We didn’t even know about how they went SSJ until Toriyama mentioned S-Cells in that interview.

I never said that Freeza WON’T appear more. You were the one who said that he was out for revenge against the saiyans. I’m daying that he has enough respect for him not to go looking for revenge. If he shows up in a later arc, chances are that it won’t be to get revenge. And they said we would get backstory on Freeza and the saiyans involvement. It was never said that Freeza would show up in the present of the movie.

Eh Frieza will appear in the movie and is already becoming a recurring character.

[AnimeNation101]

Just like how revisting the Saiyans concept is and also Frieza is the franchises recurring villain he will now be appearing more story arcs now regardless if he wants revenge or not or even if he is the villain or not he is still Goku's most personal enemy. Also it stated that Frieza will be involved in the upcoming movie anyway.

Revisiting the concept isn’t stupid or repetitive because we’ll actually be getting lore. We know almost nothing about the saiyan’s ancient history or full involvement with freeza. We didn’t even know about how they went SSJ until Toriyama mentioned S-Cells in that interview.

I never said that Freeza WON’T appear more. You were the one who said that he was out for revenge against the saiyans. I’m daying that he has enough respect for him not to go looking for revenge. If he shows up in a later arc, chances are that it won’t be to get revenge. And they said we would get backstory on Freeza and the saiyans involvement. It was never said that Freeza would show up in the present of the movie.

Eh Frieza will appear in the movie and is already becoming a recurring character.

As i said before, it was NEVER confirmed that Freeza will show up in the present of this movie.

[PFM18]

I never said it was behind him. I said that he doesn’t have enough resentment and animosity to go out looking for trouble in another universe just to kill off there saiyans. Freeza doesn’t hold as much of a grudge by the end of the T.o.P because he and Goku now how mutual respect (to some degree).

Goku and Freeza have mutual respect but he still hates Saiyans with a passion enough to where I wouldn't put it past him to want to massacre the Saiyans again. He just likes killing people in general so I mean being Saiyan is a huge bonus. He now is alive and knows that other saiyans exist so I would think it is in his character to try and destroy them all especially knowing now that Cabba is one of the strongest and he disposed of him very easily.

I disagree, between Freeza building a degree of respect and trust with Goku over the T.o.P and his quick death in RoF, I think he’s learned not to just head straight into revenge but plan out and do what benefits him most. He is more of someone who would toy with and then kill a saiyan he FINDS but not someone who is so blinded by hatred that he’d go out of his way to another universe just to kill its saiyans. Its not in his character. And if he has so little hatred that he can work with Goku so well, i think he doesn’t have enough hatred to go to another universe just to kill a completely different race of saiyans.

The Tournament of Power was not representative of the fact that Freeza has "little hatred" for Goku because he was literally fighting for his life and had no choice but to fight alongside Goku. When he showed up he threatened to kill Vegeta he was hardly "playing nice" so to speak. It isn't as though he fought with Goku out of his own free will because he wanted to, he was fighting for his right to exist. He has learned to be more strategic because he has now become familiar with the fact that there are people out there who are stronger than him like Goku or Jiren or Vegeta, and so he wouldn't go and try to kill Goku again. But considering how strategic and methodical he has become(until he went insane after the beatdown by Toppo) It would be in his character to make an attack that he knows he can win considering that he already saw the best the Saiyans can offer and he easily outclasses them. Especially considering how much he hates the Saiyans.

Then I think it would be a great moment for Vegeta to save Planet Sadala from Freeza and slaughter him in his new form.

[AnimeNation101]

Goku and Freeza have mutual respect but he still hates Saiyans with a passion enough to where I wouldn't put it past him to want to massacre the Saiyans again. He just likes killing people in general so I mean being Saiyan is a huge bonus. He now is alive and knows that other saiyans exist so I would think it is in his character to try and destroy them all especially knowing now that Cabba is one of the strongest and he disposed of him very easily.

I disagree, between Freeza building a degree of respect and trust with Goku over the T.o.P and his quick death in RoF, I think he’s learned not to just head straight into revenge but plan out and do what benefits him most. He is more of someone who would toy with and then kill a saiyan he FINDS but not someone who is so blinded by hatred that he’d go out of his way to another universe just to kill its saiyans. Its not in his character. And if he has so little hatred that he can work with Goku so well, i think he doesn’t have enough hatred to go to another universe just to kill a completely different race of saiyans.

The Tournament of Power was not representative of the fact that Freeza has "little hatred" for Goku because he was literally fighting for his life and had no choice but to fight alongside Goku. When he showed up he threatened to kill Vegeta he was hardly "playing nice" so to speak. It isn't as though he fought with Goku out of his own free will because he wanted to, he was fighting for his right to exist. He has learned to be more strategic because he has now become familiar with the fact that there are people out there who are stronger than him like Goku or Jiren or Vegeta, and so he wouldn't go and try to kill Goku again. But considering how strategic and methodical he has become(until he went insane after the beatdown by Toppo) It would be in his character to make an attack that he knows he can win considering that he already saw the best the Saiyans can offer and he easily outclasses them. Especially considering how much he hates the Saiyans.

Then I think it would be a great moment for Vegeta to save Planet Sadala from Freeza and slaughter him in his new form.

Thats just dumb. Listen to yourself.

You’re saying that Freeza after gaing some degree of trust for Goku (which should theoretically lessen the grudge against the saiyans), go out of his way to another universe just to go torture and kill a completely different race of saiyans that he doesn’t resent just for Vegeta to come and kill him. You think that would be a great story? That just makes Freeza’s resurrection at the end of the T.o.P useless for him just to go back to looking for trouble and getting killed. That sounds dumb and makes no sense.

And even then, Freeza can do inter-universal travel so he STILL wouldn’t be able to go kill the saiyans. The last scene with Freeza implies that he’s just rebuilding his empire. Not going to go kill more saiyans and start trouble. It would make no sense.

[PFM18]

I disagree, between Freeza building a degree of respect and trust with Goku over the T.o.P and his quick death in RoF, I think he’s learned not to just head straight into revenge but plan out and do what benefits him most. He is more of someone who would toy with and then kill a saiyan he FINDS but not someone who is so blinded by hatred that he’d go out of his way to another universe just to kill its saiyans. Its not in his character. And if he has so little hatred that he can work with Goku so well, i think he doesn’t have enough hatred to go to another universe just to kill a completely different race of saiyans.

The Tournament of Power was not representative of the fact that Freeza has "little hatred" for Goku because he was literally fighting for his life and had no choice but to fight alongside Goku. When he showed up he threatened to kill Vegeta he was hardly "playing nice" so to speak. It isn't as though he fought with Goku out of his own free will because he wanted to, he was fighting for his right to exist. He has learned to be more strategic because he has now become familiar with the fact that there are people out there who are stronger than him like Goku or Jiren or Vegeta, and so he wouldn't go and try to kill Goku again. But considering how strategic and methodical he has become(until he went insane after the beatdown by Toppo) It would be in his character to make an attack that he knows he can win considering that he already saw the best the Saiyans can offer and he easily outclasses them. Especially considering how much he hates the Saiyans.

Then I think it would be a great moment for Vegeta to save Planet Sadala from Freeza and slaughter him in his new form.

Thats just dumb. Listen to yourself.

You’re saying that Freeza after gaing some degree of trust for Goku (which should theoretically lessen the grudge against the saiyans), go out of his way to another universe just to go torture and kill a completely different race of saiyans that he doesn’t resent just for Vegeta to come and kill him. You think that would be a great story? That just makes Freeza’s resurrection at the end of the T.o.P useless for him just to go back to looking for trouble and getting killed. That sounds dumb and makes no sense.

And even then, Freeza can do inter-universal travel so he STILL wouldn’t be able to go kill the saiyans. The last scene with Freeza implies that he’s just rebuilding his empire. Not going to go kill more saiyans and start trouble. It would make no sense.

He still hates Goku and the Saiyans and it was never implied that wasn't the case. And even if he does trust Goku that doesn't make his appetite for genocide any less than it always has been. He eradicated all of the Saiyans and Namekians without a second thought and there's no reason to believe he wouldn't do something similar again. I mean I guess it would be "useless" but he is obviously going to die in the movie one way or another, Freeza isn't just gonna become one of the Z fighters and he isn't going to stop being evil. He even told Whis and the rest that he isn't going to stop being evil and he's just going to go back to his evil ways. There is no alternative to him dying because he is Freeza and he will never be redeemed. So why not die by the hands of Vegeta who saves the Saiyan race?

[AnimeNation101]

The Tournament of Power was not representative of the fact that Freeza has "little hatred" for Goku because he was literally fighting for his life and had no choice but to fight alongside Goku. When he showed up he threatened to kill Vegeta he was hardly "playing nice" so to speak. It isn't as though he fought with Goku out of his own free will because he wanted to, he was fighting for his right to exist. He has learned to be more strategic because he has now become familiar with the fact that there are people out there who are stronger than him like Goku or Jiren or Vegeta, and so he wouldn't go and try to kill Goku again. But considering how strategic and methodical he has become(until he went insane after the beatdown by Toppo) It would be in his character to make an attack that he knows he can win considering that he already saw the best the Saiyans can offer and he easily outclasses them. Especially considering how much he hates the Saiyans.

Then I think it would be a great moment for Vegeta to save Planet Sadala from Freeza and slaughter him in his new form.

Thats just dumb. Listen to yourself.

You’re saying that Freeza after gaing some degree of trust for Goku (which should theoretically lessen the grudge against the saiyans), go out of his way to another universe just to go torture and kill a completely different race of saiyans that he doesn’t resent just for Vegeta to come and kill him. You think that would be a great story? That just makes Freeza’s resurrection at the end of the T.o.P useless for him just to go back to looking for trouble and getting killed. That sounds dumb and makes no sense.

And even then, Freeza can do inter-universal travel so he STILL wouldn’t be able to go kill the saiyans. The last scene with Freeza implies that he’s just rebuilding his empire. Not going to go kill more saiyans and start trouble. It would make no sense.

He still hates Goku and the Saiyans and it was never implied that wasn't the case. And even if he does trust Goku that doesn't make his appetite for genocide any less than it always has been. He eradicated all of the Saiyans and Namekians without a second thought and there's no reason to believe he wouldn't do something similar again. I mean I guess it would be "useless" but he is obviously going to die in the movie one way or another, Freeza isn't just gonna become one of the Z fighters and he isn't going to stop being evil. He even told Whis and the rest that he isn't going to stop being evil and he's just going to go back to his evil ways. There is no alternative to him dying because he is Freeza and he will never be redeemed. So why not die by the hands of Vegeta who saves the Saiyan race?

1. If Freeza were to die, that would be a stupid way for it to happen

2. You must not have a lot of experience with story-telling. They kept Freeza alive for a reason. No way would they just kill him off because then they would have just let him go back to hell and stay day like he was going to do before Whis revived him. Which is, again, proof of Freeza’s development. Instead of getting angry or disgusted at the happiness of team U7, he just smirked and said that he rather just go back to hell. The old freeza would have never given up on resurrection but this Freeza has changed over the course of the arc. He never had an appetite for genocide. He was a strict ruler who would try to get what he wants by any means necessary or would do anything it takes to protect himself. He never went looking to just kill off races. Infact, it was never in his character to look for trouble in the first place. This is perfectly shown with him always hiding throughout the T.o.P and how his plan was to have Goku do the dirty work. So, between the fact of his character growth and the fact that he doesn’t go out looking for trouble, and how story telling works, it wouldn’t make sense that he would be resurrected just for him to go out of his way to U6 to commit genocide on the saiyans, just for Vegeta to kill him.

You may not think so, but it seems pretty likely that Freeza may end up an anti-hero or that just does his own thing and does what he wants. He definitely wasn’t revived just to die again.

[PFM18]

Thats just dumb. Listen to yourself.

You’re saying that Freeza after gaing some degree of trust for Goku (which should theoretically lessen the grudge against the saiyans), go out of his way to another universe just to go torture and kill a completely different race of saiyans that he doesn’t resent just for Vegeta to come and kill him. You think that would be a great story? That just makes Freeza’s resurrection at the end of the T.o.P useless for him just to go back to looking for trouble and getting killed. That sounds dumb and makes no sense.

And even then, Freeza can do inter-universal travel so he STILL wouldn’t be able to go kill the saiyans. The last scene with Freeza implies that he’s just rebuilding his empire. Not going to go kill more saiyans and start trouble. It would make no sense.

He still hates Goku and the Saiyans and it was never implied that wasn't the case. And even if he does trust Goku that doesn't make his appetite for genocide any less than it always has been. He eradicated all of the Saiyans and Namekians without a second thought and there's no reason to believe he wouldn't do something similar again. I mean I guess it would be "useless" but he is obviously going to die in the movie one way or another, Freeza isn't just gonna become one of the Z fighters and he isn't going to stop being evil. He even told Whis and the rest that he isn't going to stop being evil and he's just going to go back to his evil ways. There is no alternative to him dying because he is Freeza and he will never be redeemed. So why not die by the hands of Vegeta who saves the Saiyan race?

1. If Freeza were to die, that would be a stupid way for it to happen

2. You must not have a lot of experience with story-telling. They kept Freeza alive for a reason. No way would they just kill him off because then they would have just let him go back to hell and stay day like he was going to do before Whis revived him. Which is, again, proof of Freeza’s development. Instead of getting angry or disgusted at the happiness of team U7, he just smirked and said that he rather just go back to hell. The old freeza would have never given up on resurrection but this Freeza has changed over the course of the arc. He never had an appetite for genocide. He was a strict ruler who would try to get what he wants by any means necessary or would do anything it takes to protect himself. He never went looking to just kill off races. Infact, it was never in his character to look for trouble in the first place. This is perfectly shown with him always hiding throughout the T.o.P and how his plan was to have Goku do the dirty work. So, between the fact of his character growth and the fact that he doesn’t go out looking for trouble, and how story telling works, it wouldn’t make sense that he would be resurrected just for him to go out of his way to U6 to commit genocide on the saiyans, just for Vegeta to kill him.

You may not think so, but it seems pretty likely that Freeza may end up an anti-hero or that just does his own thing and does what he wants. He definitely wasn’t revived just to die again.

Freeza is THE villain of the DB franchise I have to question why you would make the biggest,most iconic villain in the series now suddenly become an anti-hero and not a villain anymore. There's no reason to keep him alive unless he becomes an anti-hero but Freeza is the one character that should never be redeemed nor should he ever become "one of the good guys" in any capacity even if it is just an "anti-hero"role. The only other alternative that they have than that is to kill him off again. You say that they wouldn't revive him only for him to die again, but this has already happened twice. He was revived just to be killed again twice prior to this

[Kepiaschkz]

Just once actually. When he shew up in his mecha form, he didn't "resurrected" but barely survived the fight on Namek. He was killed off then to establish Trunks's power. The second time he was killed off was because there was no intention to make RoF a complexe and open ended.
What would be boring and repetitive would be to make him the main villain again just to kill him off right away.

The anti hero route is more lickely to happen and I'm fine with that. Being an anti-hero isn't exactly equal as being a good guy.

Unless you consider Dexter or Walter White as good guys?

[AnimeNation101]

He still hates Goku and the Saiyans and it was never implied that wasn't the case. And even if he does trust Goku that doesn't make his appetite for genocide any less than it always has been. He eradicated all of the Saiyans and Namekians without a second thought and there's no reason to believe he wouldn't do something similar again. I mean I guess it would be "useless" but he is obviously going to die in the movie one way or another, Freeza isn't just gonna become one of the Z fighters and he isn't going to stop being evil. He even told Whis and the rest that he isn't going to stop being evil and he's just going to go back to his evil ways. There is no alternative to him dying because he is Freeza and he will never be redeemed. So why not die by the hands of Vegeta who saves the Saiyan race?

1. If Freeza were to die, that would be a stupid way for it to happen

2. You must not have a lot of experience with story-telling. They kept Freeza alive for a reason. No way would they just kill him off because then they would have just let him go back to hell and stay day like he was going to do before Whis revived him. Which is, again, proof of Freeza’s development. Instead of getting angry or disgusted at the happiness of team U7, he just smirked and said that he rather just go back to hell. The old freeza would have never given up on resurrection but this Freeza has changed over the course of the arc. He never had an appetite for genocide. He was a strict ruler who would try to get what he wants by any means necessary or would do anything it takes to protect himself. He never went looking to just kill off races. Infact, it was never in his character to look for trouble in the first place. This is perfectly shown with him always hiding throughout the T.o.P and how his plan was to have Goku do the dirty work. So, between the fact of his character growth and the fact that he doesn’t go out looking for trouble, and how story telling works, it wouldn’t make sense that he would be resurrected just for him to go out of his way to U6 to commit genocide on the saiyans, just for Vegeta to kill him.

You may not think so, but it seems pretty likely that Freeza may end up an anti-hero or that just does his own thing and does what he wants. He definitely wasn’t revived just to die again.

Freeza is THE villain of the DB franchise I have to question why you would make the biggest,most iconic villain in the series now suddenly become an anti-hero and not a villain anymore. There's no reason to keep him alive unless he becomes an anti-hero but Freeza is the one character that should never be redeemed nor should he ever become "one of the good guys" in any capacity even if it is just an "anti-hero"role. The only other alternative that they have than that is to kill him off again. You say that they wouldn't revive him only for him to die again, but this has already happened twice. He was revived just to be killed again twice prior to this

No. Its only happened once. For RoF. And this is all your opinion. Because YOU believe Freeza is THE villain of Dragon Ball when there is NO single most important villain in Dragon ball. I’m not the one making Freeza less evil and more of an anti-hero. Thats Toriyama. He’s always loved to make bad guys turn good. Ands with how Freeza has developed and the fact tat they let such an evil tyrant live, it just there way of telling us that by the end of the T.o.P, Freeza’s not as bad anymore. Whether you like it or not, that is the most likely place as to where Freeza’s character is going. There is evidence of that. There is nothing that suggests that Freeza is training for revenge or is going to go kill the U6 saiyans. Infact, theres more evidence against that idea, which i presented in my previous comment.

Stop saying not everyone can be redeemed. Vegeta, Piccolo, the Androids, Buu, etc are all proof that Freeza can. Doesn’t matter whether you dont believe it should happen or not.

[AnimeNation101]

Just once actually. When he shew up in his mecha form, he didn't "resurrected" but barely survived the fight on Namek. He was killed off then to establish Trunks's power. The second time he was killed off was because there was no intention to make RoF a complexe and open ended.
What would be boring and repetitive would be to make him the main villain again just to kill him off right away.

The anti hero route is more lickely to happen and I'm fine with that. Being an anti-hero isn't exactly equal as being a good guy.

Unless you consider Dexter or Walter White as good guys?

Freeza fits anti-hero. They want to keep him around but him being a villain for the z fighters would just become a joke overtime. Him being a character that just does what he wants that benefits him while still have a small bit of respect for at least Goku is something I'm ok with and something i see happening.

[majinwarman]

It's not Dragon Ball without rectons.

I guess we reached that point.

Isn't Goku being a saiyan a retcon since it changes how we view part 1?

People do forget about that recton because most started with Z and not Dragon Ball.

[miguelnuva1]

To those saying it doesn't make sense for Frieza to die, it would be Dragonball logic if the next villian killed or at last badly defeated Frieza before heading to Earth.

[BlueBasilisk]

^Not quite because Frieza is still in 'old hat' territory right now. It doesn't do much to boost a villain when he beats up a guy at least 20 times weaker than Goku.

That new Saiyan is wearing RoF style Frieza Force armor, so there's that. And Frieza was willing to make Vegeta commander of his forces in the same movie if he turned traitor and swore loyalty. Frieza doesn't like Saiyans but he seems to put that aside in favor of pragmatism when he sees the possibility for personal benefit. He hates Goku more than anyone and look how that turned out.