Asura wrote:I'm not taking him too seriously, I simply don't find it funny at all. It's obviously made for both comedy and ridicule but it fails on both fronts IMO. It comes off as a lot more obnoxious than funny.
All I said, was if he would just limit the whole "But Masako!" schtick to 1 every 3 episodes or so, I would be good. Because I enjoy his videos, then he suddenly does that thing. Then I just cringe, because it was just so unnecessary, broke the flow of dialogue he had going, and I doubt ANYONE was thinking that.
All I know is I cannot stand that Dragon Ball Dissection guy. Geekdom and Masako are great and played a big part in revitalizing my interest in Dragon Ball.
Lupin Vegeta wrote:All I know is I cannot stand that Dragon Ball Dissection guy.
Well, can't win 'em all, I guess.
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Lupin Vegeta wrote:All I know is I cannot stand that Dragon Ball Dissection guy. Geekdom and Masako are great and played a big part in revitalizing my interest in Dragon Ball.
Yeah, fuck that guy. With his "Bloomas" and his "Yamcha's character was assassinated" nonsense.
He even says "Geh-ro." What even is this weab shit.
Kamiccolo9 wrote:"Yamcha's character was assassinated" nonsense.
Probably my main gripe with him.
Gaffer tape is mistare fusion.
Why power levels are important?
Spoiler:
Power levels establish tension and drama. People who care about them (well, people who care about them in a narrative) don't care about the big numbers or the fancy explosions. If you have character A who's so much above character B, who's the main character, you're gonna be left wondering how in the hell character B, the character we're supposed to care and root for, is going to escape the situation or overcome the odds. It makes us emotionally invested.
If character B doesn't escape the situation in a believable way that's consistent with previous events, then that emotional investment is gone. It was pointless tension, pointless drama made just to suck in the viewer. It has no critical value whatsoever. The audience is left believing that the author can just create whatever scenarios he wants and what happens to the characters is decided by whatever the author wants to happen, regardless of the events that happened in the story. Which, in fairness, is what happens, but the audience wants to be fooled. The audience wants to know that the world they're following has rules. That the world they're invested in isn't going to bend to external factors that are irrelevant to them.
An author can do whatever he wants with the characters, that's not false. But the author should also have the responsibility to make sure it fits in cohesively with the other events in the narrative he has created.
MistareFusion (Not Really a DB Youtuber, just what he's best known for)
Ajay
TFS (Not a huge fan anymore, just watch them out of habit more than anything else, kind of outgrew their brand of humor.)
I just don't think any other DB Channels really bring anything interesting to the table save for a few. Most of them are just discussions or them just spouting off their opinions with very little analysis or just very boring and bland rhetoric. Its the type of discussions I can have with my friends, and very rarely do any of these personlaities ever offer anything more thoughtful or insightful than an average r/dbz post. But if that's your thing, I can totally see why channels like Masako, Blackenfist and Quaaman appeal to you. Also, like was previously mentioned, it's a pain everytime Herms translates something new and my feed gets flooded with recommendations of the same news video over and over. Very little originality in the original content department as well. "What if this happened" "So and So vs So and So" "Top 10 W/E". It's just the same content regurgitated over and over with a new coat of paint each time. There are a few exceptions though like Gaffer Tape who does bring a very educated and much more literary approach to the series than anyone else I've seen. Geekdom is a great channel too if you're just getting into the series, but for more seasoned vets I feel he offers very little (although once in a while he will drop some tidbits even I didn't know). But even though I don't necessarily like most of these channels I do admire and respect the effort that goes into them. I especially appreciate the work they put into creating a much more positive and educated community, that alone makes them not a waste of space in my opinion.
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Lupin Vegeta wrote:All I know is I cannot stand that Dragon Ball Dissection guy. Geekdom and Masako are great and played a big part in revitalizing my interest in Dragon Ball.
MarCas92 wrote:I only really watch 3 DB Youtubers,
MistareFusion (Not Really a DB Youtuber, just what he's best known for)
Ajay
TFS (Not a huge fan anymore, just watch them out of habit more than anything else, kind of outgrew their brand of humor.)
I just don't think any other DB Channels really bring anything interesting to the table save for a few. Most of them are just discussions or them just spouting off their opinions with very little analysis or just very boring and bland rhetoric.
This is my stance, except I still really enjoy TFS.
The content that everyone else puts out lies somewhere between Herms regurgitation at best and unacceptable levels of misinformed at worst. If you read the interviews on Kanzenshuu, listen to the podcast, and then check out MistareFusion & Ajay, you're not missing anything. If you're really into the DB Youtube scene for the hot takes, you'll save a lot of time by just going to Twitter.
Well, there's one thing missing. I feel like the Dragon Ball Super manga doesn't receive acceptable coverage by anybody, not even Kanzenshuu.
MarCas92 wrote:I only really watch 3 DB Youtubers,
MistareFusion (Not Really a DB Youtuber, just what he's best known for)
Ajay
TFS (Not a huge fan anymore, just watch them out of habit more than anything else, kind of outgrew their brand of humor.)
I just don't think any other DB Channels really bring anything interesting to the table save for a few. Most of them are just discussions or them just spouting off their opinions with very little analysis or just very boring and bland rhetoric.
This is my stance, except I still really enjoy TFS.
The content that everyone else puts out lies somewhere between Herms regurgitation at best and unacceptable levels of misinformed at worst. If you read the interviews on Kanzenshuu, listen to the podcast, and then check out MistareFusion & Ajay, you're not missing anything. If you're really into the DB Youtube scene for the hot takes, you'll save a lot of time by just going to Twitter.
Well, there's one thing missing. I feel like the Dragon Ball Super manga doesn't receive acceptable coverage by anybody, not even Kanzenshuu.
Geekdom does review it when each chapter becomes available.
Jackalope89 wrote:Geekdom does review it when each chapter becomes available.
While his manga videos are the only ones I tend to tune in for, I'm not really satisfied with them. They boil down to a play-by-play summary, followed by basic reactions and "some people might feel ____ about this". While I don't expect anyone to do it on the level of MistareFusion, I'd like a little more substance and meta-talk.
I guess that's fine for someone who's only casually interested in the DBS manga, but as it's my main interest in terms of Super as a whole, I'd like a little bit more.
Jackalope89 wrote:Geekdom does review it when each chapter becomes available.
While his manga videos are the only ones I tend to tune in for, I'm not really satisfied with them. They boil down to a play-by-play summary, followed by basic reactions and "some people might feel ____ about this". While I don't expect anyone to do it on the level of MistareFusion, I'd like a little more substance and meta-talk.
I guess that's fine for someone who's only casually interested in the DBS manga, but as it's my main interest in terms of Super as a whole, I'd like a little bit more.
Thanks for the advice! I will take this into account and go deeper, but remember, I'm doing them AS they come out. Lance has the benefit of knowing the end of the DB manga. Here I can only say "i hope it gets better" vs knowing if it does or doesn't!
batistabus wrote:I'd like a little more substance and meta-talk.
I guess that's fine for someone who's only casually interested in the DBS manga, but as it's my main interest in terms of Super as a whole, I'd like a little bit more.
I agree 100% I wish we could get more substantial discussion out of these manga chapters. But is that really possible? I don't think most fans read the DBS manga, so I don't think content creators are incentivized to put that much effort into those videos. Another thing is that due to the culture of YouTube, it's always a freakin rat race to try to get the review out as soon as possible so usually, you won't get anything more than just a 1st impression and light speculation. They don't really digest the chapter and just try to put a video out ASAP. Not that there is much to analyze anyway. It's just a chapter. Apart from the art, there really isn't anything to really dissect outside the few moments that advance the narrative and new tidbits of information.
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batistabus wrote:I'd like a little more substance and meta-talk.
I guess that's fine for someone who's only casually interested in the DBS manga, but as it's my main interest in terms of Super as a whole, I'd like a little bit more.
I agree 100% I wish we could get more substantial discussion out of these manga chapters. But is that really possible? I don't think most fans read the DBS manga, so I don't think content creators are incentivized to put that much effort into those videos. Another thing is that due to the culture of YouTube, it's always a freakin rat race to try to get the review out as soon as possible so usually, you won't get anything more than just a 1st impression and light speculation. They don't really digest the chapter and just try to put a video out ASAP. Not that there is much to analyze anyway. It's just a chapter. Apart from the art, there really isn't anything to really dissect outside the few moments that advance the narrative and new tidbits of information.
Geekdom101 wrote:
Maybe if we give it a while to let it marinate?
Of course that would always help. Having more time to analyze and organize your thoughts always makes for a better discussion. But it’s just a chapter. And it’s not like OP where every panel has something to dissect. The DBS manga is already very simple and straightforward . I was only making the point that making Chapter discussions/reviews is already a very limiting format that won’t allow for as much depth as an entire story arc. I think most chapter reviews that come out (including yours) are fine the way they are. I just don’t think anyone should expect anymore from then content wise.
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Geekdom101 wrote:Maybe if we give it a while to let it marinate?
I didn't mean to call you out specifically. What you do seems to work for you and your audience, and what I'm looking for isn't really suited to a chapter-by-chapter hot take format. If you're asking my advice, I say keep doing what you're doing, but when the Universe Survival arc is over, re-read the whole thing in one shot and do an arc review like you do with the anime.
