Cussing and Swearing

Izlude · Post by **Izlude** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 6:00 pm

Okay my question, in the original DragonBall series (manga+anime) is there really supposed to be a lot of use of naughty language, and is it ever so extreme to the point of the F word being used, that is if the japanese even have a word for it in their language. I remember back in the days of the old DBZ fansubs Goku would say fuck this get offuva my planet and Vegeta would say oh shit on you and fucking die, blah blah blah.

Are all the naughty words in the old fan-translations there to just make it look cool and our translations from Viz's manga and Funi's subs are much more accurate, or is the DB world originally just full of potty mouths, and professonial translators just dont wanna take the liberty of putting language like that into a cartoon? I personally cant imagine the characters in the DB series going as far has saying ass really, maybe with a shit one in a grand while.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 6:27 pm

I can garuantee you with the fact that Steve Simmons did the translations for Funi, their subs are more accurate. More accurate a lot of times than the VIZ manga in my opinion. I suspect you were watching fansubs done by AnimeLabs, that group was notorious for throwing in as many ridiculous colourful phrases as possible it seemed. Best one still being Vegita calling Gero I believe a "Candy-assed faggot".

Izlude · Post by **Izlude** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 6:34 pm

Jerseymilk wrote:I suspect you were watching fansubs done by AnimeLabs, that group was notorious for throwing in as many ridiculous colourful phrases as possible it seemed. Best one still being Vegita calling Gero I believe a "Candy-assed faggot".

Yup that is the one! Good ol Anime Labs

I believe they did a fansub of Rurouni Kenshin and added in tons of fucks to it too

I guess its good Funi has a great translator for the subtitle script then, cuz I heard some people at another forum which shall remain nameless complaining a bit at the lack of use of all the "cool dirty language"

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 6:39 pm

Well then they're uninformed, clueless idiots I'm afraid. And Kenshin swearing? That's hilarious!! XD We're talking about a guy that's so polite he adds "lady" and "sir" to everybody's name! That's just too rich! XD

Izlude · Post by **Izlude** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 6:53 pm

Jerseymilk wrote:Well then they're uninformed, clueless idiots I'm afraid. And Kenshin swearing? That's hilarious!! XD We're talking about a guy that's so polite he adds "lady" and "sir" to everybody's name! That's just too rich! XD

In the episode he battles Saitou in Anime Labs fansub, when Okubo comes in Kenshin speaks and the subs read - "No fucking way"

Then when he fights Aoshi, he tells him to cut the shit and wake up or something.... i cant really remember, it was many years ago ^^

Ben Plante · Post by **Ben Plante** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 7:20 pm

The cream of the crop, just above or perhaps just under 'Candyass Faggot' is 'Fuck you, you blew up my fucking house, you fuck', or whatever exaggerated sentence he said in movie 13's fansub.

Caracal · Post by **Caracal** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 7:24 pm

In the sub I saw for #13, Vegeta said:
"You fucking bastard! How dare you destroy my house!"
Or something like that.

Is it really necessary to say "fuck" all the time though? While it may be the strongest swear word, do they really have to throw it in left right and center? I've heard that they never say fuck in the Japanise version, so the fan sub isn't exactly being accurate using it.

Izlude · Post by **Izlude** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 7:43 pm

There is one that kinda baffles me though, in Movie 12 I believe, Pikkon had to like swear at that thing or whatever...I dunno... I'm a noob when it comes to any DBZ movie past 9

Ben Plante · Post by **Ben Plante** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 7:51 pm

I know Caracal, I was making fun of the line, not excepting it. 'Cream of the crop' as in cream of the idiot crop.

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 8:07 pm

Caracal wrote:In the sub I saw for #13, Vegeta said:
"You fucking bastard! How dare you destroy my house!"
Or something like that.

Is it really necessary to say "fuck" all the time though? While it may be the strongest swear word, do they really have to throw it in left right and center? I've heard that they never say fuck in the Japanise version, so the fan sub isn't exactly being accurate using it.

Of course it isn't. It's being "cool". And being cool is much more important than being correct.

Although: "'fuck' is the strongest swear word"? Not where I come from, m'lado.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 8:12 pm

Yes in movie 12 Pikuhan did have to swear, but it was more like "bastard", "hell", and "damn".

Caracal · Post by **Caracal** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 8:26 pm

PsyLiam wrote:Of course it isn't. It's being "cool". And being cool is much more important than being correct.

Of course! How could I forget such an important factor!

Although: "'fuck' is the strongest swear word"? Not where I come from, m'lado.

Oh? I was under the impression it was the strongest swear word in the world.

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 8:43 pm

And what gave you that idea, you cunt-faced motherfucker?

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 9:17 pm

It's certainly the most common, but strongest? Fuck no.

Ben Plante · Post by **Ben Plante** » Sat Jun 12, 2004 9:37 pm

Caracal, he's being sarcastic about cool being more important than correct. Unless you're using reverse sarcasm, which text sucks at getting across.

I think fuck is one of the worst, but cunt is in my opinion the end all be all... especially depending on who you say it to. Go ahead, next time your GF/wife/whatever makes you REEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAALLY mad, try saying it. Silence will fall, and time will STAND STILL, as you can actually see and feel the evil emanating from her body as she stands silent, simply staring. Feel yourself shrink... because you are about to be crushed.

snen · Post by **snen** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 8:31 am

Caracal wrote:In the sub I saw for #13, Vegeta said:
"You fucking bastard! How dare you destroy my house!"
Or something like that.

Is it really necessary to say "fuck" all the time though? While it may be the strongest swear word, do they really have to throw it in left right and center? I've heard that they never say fuck in the Japanise version, so the fan sub isn't exactly being accurate using it.

What led up to that incident? I haven't most of the movies as only a few have been released over here and Kazaa eats my computer

Yeah, if the word cunt is said in films it usually guarantees them and 18 certificate.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 9:04 am

Well, interestingly enough, this scene takes place in the danish manga (and probably the german one too).

Chapter 486, as Super Buu is flying towards Mr. Satan, and is about to hit him.

Mr. Satan: ... Wha- Uh...what? He's gone! Ha ha! He was frightened of Mr. Satan! That spineless wuss! (or something along those lines. These expressions aren't always easy to translate) Ha Ha Ha!! *notices Super Buu is floating above him*
Mr Satan: Aah! Fuck! Fuck! Fuck!!
Super Buu: ... ... Sa... ta... n... *flies away*
Mr. Satan: Buu is... ...my friend!

Sun_Wukong · Post by **Sun_Wukong** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 9:42 am

Caracal wrote:In the sub I saw for #13, Vegeta said:
"You fucking bastard! How dare you destroy my house!"
Or something like that.

Is it really necessary to say "fuck" all the time though? While it may be the strongest swear word, do they really have to throw it in left right and center? I've heard that they never say fuck in the Japanise version, so the fan sub isn't exactly being accurate using it.

Ah, the Animelabs translation of movie #13 was my very first fansub. The memories....

B-kun · Post by **B-kun** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 10:52 am

The scene in movei 13 where Vegeta screams "fuck" is kinda near the end. The complete Hildegarn had just appeared and, in the process, destroyed Capsule Corp. This caused a very upset Vegeta to appear, try to fight Hildegarn, and get promptly beat shitless.

snen · Post by **snen** » Sun Jun 13, 2004 11:03 am

B-kun wrote:The scene in movei 13 where Vegeta screams "fuck" is kinda near the end. The complete Hildegarn had just appeared and, in the process, destroyed Capsule Corp. This caused a very upset Vegeta to appear, try to fight Hildegarn, and get promptly beat shitless.

Bless X) Yeah, I do remember seing a short clip of him saving a building.. Or the people in the building by countering Hildegarn's blast. Never seen that bit though - It sounds really funny!

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