Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[Zelvin]

But Ulta SSJ1 isn't twice SSJ1, whilst SSJBE matches at least SSJB Kaioken 20. It just isn't comparable. Some people tend to think Vegeta's SSJBE is comparable with a SSJB1 or SSJB2-form (combined with God-Ki), i think it's something different / new all the way. It's a SSJ-transformation combined with God-Ki, that part is true, but it's not comparable with the traditional SSJ-grades, it's rather an all new transformation for my part. I personally also think SSJ Blue is not 50 times SSJ God, rather 2-5 times God, but that's a matter of perception.

I'm not concerned with what power grade or form it's comparable to. I'm only commenting on its appearance. As it's quite literally just Super Vegeta, only Blue. And frankly, Ultra Blue sounds cooler and is easier to say.

[Mister_Popo]

But Ulta SSJ1 isn't twice SSJ1, whilst SSJBE matches at least SSJB Kaioken 20. It just isn't comparable. Some people tend to think Vegeta's SSJBE is comparable with a SSJB1 or SSJB2-form (combined with God-Ki), i think it's something different / new all the way. It's a SSJ-transformation combined with God-Ki, that part is true, but it's not comparable with the traditional SSJ-grades, it's rather an all new transformation for my part. I personally also think SSJ Blue is not 50 times SSJ God, rather 2-5 times God, but that's a matter of perception.

I'm not concerned with what power grade or form it's comparable to. I'm only commenting on its appearance. As it's quite literally just Super Vegeta, only Blue. And frankly, Ultra Blue sounds cooler and is easier to say.

No problem, brother, you are entitled to your opinion, it's just fantasy at the end, i just said my humble opinion, but it's all relative. I know fora where power levels are thought to be a holy grale. I would say: i rather take a stap down and respect your opinion. I have just said what i think, but i'll never look down on people who have another opinion on fantasy, i know where it can lead to, and it just isn't worth it. I respect you bro, don't worry.

[Miracles]

You guys ready to see Goku and Vegeta training at the start of the movie still trying to surpass Beerus?

[PerhapsTheOtherOne]

So..... movie talk got consumed by other crap.

Again.

[Monna]

You guys ready to see Goku and Vegeta training at the start of the movie still trying to surpass Beerus?

Oh for sure.

[PFM18]

I tend to refer to Vegeta's upgrade SSB form as just Ultra Blue. Since he's more buff like Super Vegeta when he fought Cell, which was also called Ultra Super Saiyan. Could even just call it Ultra SSB. Ultra Blue for short.

His Super Vegeta that he used as a Super Saiyan is normally referred to as "Ascended Super Saiyan" with Trunks using the buff transformation called "Ultra Super Saiyan" or Grades 2 and 3 respectively. But this form gives him a much larger boost in power than ASSJ did and ASSJ appeared to mostly increase his strength rather than his speed as much, where SSBE just indiscriminately increases strength and speed.

So..... movie talk got consumed by other crap.

Again.

My bad on that one. Although it was still loosely tied to the movie.

But Ulta SSJ1 isn't twice SSJ1, whilst SSJBE matches at least SSJB Kaioken 20. It just isn't comparable. Some people tend to think Vegeta's SSJBE is comparable with a SSJB1 or SSJB2-form (combined with God-Ki), i think it's something different / new all the way. It's a SSJ-transformation combined with God-Ki, that part is true, but it's not comparable with the traditional SSJ-grades, it's rather an all new transformation for my part. I personally also think SSJ Blue is not 50 times SSJ God, rather 2-5 times God, but that's a matter of perception.

I'm not concerned with what power grade or form it's comparable to. I'm only commenting on its appearance. As it's quite literally just Super Vegeta, only Blue. And frankly, Ultra Blue sounds cooler and is easier to say.

I mean yeah maybe to you lol. I think either of "Royal Blue" or the semi-official name "Blue Evolution" sound cooler than "Ultra Blue"

[Ronin]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I searched the thread and couldn't find it. Did Toriyama draw these character designs that were in V-Jump earlier this month? They usually show some designs he did, but I don't think it says who made them and if it does then I'm missing it.

[Miracles]

Oh for sure.

Nice Goku image!

[Chuquita]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I searched the thread and couldn't find it. Did Toriyama draw these character designs that were in V-Jump earlier this month? They usually show some designs he did, but I don't think it says who made them and if it does then I'm missing it.

They're Shintani's. Also I completely missed that it has a line there about how the waku waku is maximum. I doubt that's an intentional parody on the old "his power is maximum" thing, but it still makes me smile.

[GodVegetto91]

You guys ready to see Goku and Vegeta training at the start of the movie still trying to surpass Beerus?

No i’m not ready for that never ending bullshit.

[JazzMazz]

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I searched the thread and couldn't find it. Did Toriyama draw these character designs that were in V-Jump earlier this month? They usually show some designs he did, but I don't think it says who made them and if it does then I'm missing it.

They're Shintani's. Also I completely missed that it has a line there about how the waku waku is maximum. I doubt that's an intentional parody on the old "his power is maximum" thing, but it still makes me smile.

Adding on from that point, the designs here are the official designs that are going to be used in movie. Meaning, this is pretty much a general aesthetic reveal for the entire film. For more information on staff stuff, look at Ajay's Movie animation hub.

You guys ready to see Goku and Vegeta training at the start of the movie still trying to surpass Beerus?

No i’m not ready for that never ending bullshit.

Hopefully it'll at least be well animated this time around.

[Tian]

You guys ready to see Goku and Vegeta training at the start of the movie still trying to surpass Beerus?

I would be really disappointed if that happened. Really disappointed.

[Ki Breaker]

You guys ready to see Goku and Vegeta training at the start of the movie still trying to surpass Beerus?

It's gonna happen and yes my mind is ready..
Anything works as long as those exceptional new designs are doing their thing

[PFM18]

You guys ready to see Goku and Vegeta training at the start of the movie still trying to surpass Beerus?

I would be really disappointed if that happened. Really disappointed.

Why?

[Vegeta_Sama]

You guys ready to see Goku and Vegeta training at the start of the movie still trying to surpass Beerus?

I would be really disappointed if that happened. Really disappointed.

Why?

Because They both surpasses Beerus by this point with UI and SSBE

[Meshack]

Yamamuro was probably not character designer for this movie because he was working on Dragon Ball Heroes.

[Meshack]

Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Son Gokou and Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Vegeta have been shown in Strongest Jump

[YamiGoku]

I would be really disappointed if that happened. Really disappointed.

Why?

Because They both surpasses Beerus by this point with UI and SSBE

But Goku cant tap into UI at will, and are we really sure SSBE is stronger than Beerus?

even then, they have not mastered those forms, and in the last episode they basically said they are going to keep training and surpassing their limits because they are saiyans, and the best "masters" and opponents they have around that they can surpass, are still Beerus and Whis.

also, i can see vegeta thinking he can take beerus now, but Goku will probably think Beerus is still stronger than him, or at last thats how i see it.

[majinwarman]

The Universe 6 arc didnt have a new transformation.

You are not wrong but I think that most people still consider Blue Kaioken as the new thing during that arc.

New thing =\= transformation

A new technique could be considered a new thing. It doesn't have to be a new transformation.

[PFM18]

I would be really disappointed if that happened. Really disappointed.

Why?

Because They both surpasses Beerus by this point with UI and SSBE

SSBE didn't surpass Beerus and Goku can't access UI. It wasn't until the 3rd UI Omen that Goku became Beerus's equal/stronger.(as said by the promotional magazine I believe.) and it makes sense that once Goku achieves UI that is the moment that he surpasses Beerus because having completed it then he has attained the "state that surpasses the gods"

You are not wrong but I think that most people still consider Blue Kaioken as the new thing during that arc.

New thing =\= transformation

A new technique could be considered a new thing. It doesn't have to be a new transformation.

It is a new thing obviously. It was just established that it was not a transformation.

also, i can see vegeta thinking he can take beerus now, but Goku will probably think Beerus is still stronger than him, or at last thats how i see it.

Yeah I see it in a similar light. Vegeta might be a bit cocky about having been stronger than Beerus even though I don't think he is quite there yet. He is close though. Goku wihout UI probably accepts that he isn't there yet.