"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

[Dragotaker]

I thought about how we could see Trunks become SSGSS since he is the focus of UM and he already has a form that is kinda like fake SSGSS and if that happens there will be no SS4 this year probably, which would suck for me and since all the Xeno Patrol are somewhere else atm, Xeno Trunks and Xeno Vegeto are not around and they are the only ones who could go SS4 next time

[mahakaishin1991]

They did invent super saiyan berserk though for Goku, but thats about it.

Super Saiyan (Berserk) isn't really a new form. It's just a corruption of Goku as a whole, making him evil and rampage while he's Super Saiyan (2).

with whited out eyes and black lightning, and i believe a different feel to his ki if translations I've seen are correct.

It's just a different super saiyan 2, but we've had stuff like 'enhanced' forms classified as seperate, so I see it as a 'new form' sorta deal

[TheDevilsCorpse]

It is a new form, in general. But I wouldn't classify it as a new, proper Super Saiyan form. Being corrupted by the Evil Saiyan's ki is more akin to the dark magic used by Demigra and Towa in the Xenoverse series. Which I wouldn't label as "Super Saiyan Villainous" or "Super Saiyan Super Villainous" in the sense of a new form like SSG, SSGSS, SSRage, etc. If he infects someone that's not a Super Saiyan, I imagine they'll just get a regular "Berserk" label with similar traits.

[mahakaishin1991]

It is a new form, in general. But I wouldn't classify it as a new, proper Super Saiyan form. Being corrupted by the Evil Saiyan's ki is more akin to the dark magic used by Demigra and Towa in the Xenoverse series. Which I wouldn't label as "Super Saiyan Villainous" or "Super Saiyan Super Villainous" in the sense of a new form like SSG, SSGSS, SSRage, etc. If he infects someone that's not a Super Saiyan, I imagine they'll just get a regular "Berserk" label with similar traits.

exactly what I'm saying. Its not a seperate form, more a 0.1 enhancement with a subtle shift

like how in pokemon theres now an ice ninetails I believe? this is like a 'dark' super saiyan 2

[ankokudaishogun]

exactly what I'm saying. Its not a seperate form, more a 0.1 enhancement with a subtle shift

It's an alteration of GOKU's psyche, not of his Super Saiyan form.

[mahakaishin1991]

exactly what I'm saying. Its not a seperate form, more a 0.1 enhancement with a subtle shift

It's an alteration of GOKU's psyche, not of his Super Saiyan form.

that alters his ki and outward appearance as well, on top of whited out eyes and black ki sparks

Look if we can have an 'enhanced super saiyan 2' that just has more sparks and power, but are supposed to treat it 'seperate' than super saiyan 2, then I dont see why we treat this differently

[Bebi Hatchiyack]

According to this tweet we have our mysterious Hannibal Saiyan a name
https://twitter.com/GovetaXV/status/1004747716193239046

I put the name on spoilers in case for not spoil people who wants a more official reveal.

[spoiler]His name would be Kanba/カンバー and that would came from Cucumber[/spoiler]

[HeroR]

They did invent super saiyan berserk though for Goku, but thats about it.

Super Saiyan (Berserk) isn't really a new form. It's just a corruption of Goku as a whole, making him evil and rampage while he's Super Saiyan (2).

So, something like Majin Vegeta who is often treated as a different form when it's really just Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta.

[mahakaishin1991]

According to this tweet we have our mysterious Hannibal Saiyan a name
https://twitter.com/GovetaXV/status/1004747716193239046

I put the name on spoilers in case for not spoil people who wants a more official reveal.

[spoiler]His name would be Kanba/カンバー and that would came from Cucumber[/spoiler]

Your several days late

[ankokudaishogun]

They did invent super saiyan berserk though for Goku, but thats about it.

Super Saiyan (Berserk) isn't really a new form. It's just a corruption of Goku as a whole, making him evil and rampage while he's Super Saiyan (2).

So, something like Majin Vegeta who is often treated as a different form when it's really just Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta.

doesn't the Badibi possession increase the possessed's power?

[SSJgogeto]

Not the possession itself, at least considering Vegeta's case when he became Majin first and then Babidi increase his powers.

[mahakaishin1991]

Super Saiyan (Berserk) isn't really a new form. It's just a corruption of Goku as a whole, making him evil and rampage while he's Super Saiyan (2).

So, something like Majin Vegeta who is often treated as a different form when it's really just Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta.

doesn't the Badibi possession increase the possessed's power?

And this form, berserk, actually effects the nature of Goku's ki and power, so I dont see why people want to treat it as a perfectly cosmetic change

[Grandpriest3]

Random question

How do you guys pronounce "Xeno"? Is it "Xee no" "Zen oh" or something else?

[YonedgeHP]

Random question

How do you guys pronounce "Xeno"? Is it "Xee no" "Zen oh" or something else?

Zehno, the term comes from Greek.

[mahakaishin1991]

Ok so a bit of a thought on Kamba

his whited out eyes and the fact he induces rage and corruption in others makes me wonder if he's thematically there to show what Trunks' super sayan rage could lead to? What Trunks could go if he raged too hard? Perhaps his ability to corrupt others will lead to something new from Trunks in the future?

Also, personal crack theory, but I dont think Kamba is in a base form. His long shaggy hair and tail, along with the fact his entire upper body is covered (which is where the obvious super saiyan 4 traits are) makes me wonder if that's the route they are heading with this guy? I mean yeah hes not got the eye liner though but its just something I was thinking about earlier

[AnimeNation101]

Ok so a bit of a thought on Kamba

his whited out eyes and the fact he induces rage and corruption in others makes me wonder if he's thematically there to show what Trunks' super sayan rage could lead to? What Trunks could go if he raged too hard? Perhaps his ability to corrupt others will lead to something new from Trunks in the future?

Also, personal crack theory, but I dont think Kamba is in a base form. His long shaggy hair and tail, along with the fact his entire upper body is covered (which is where the obvious super saiyan 4 traits are) makes me wonder if that's the route they are heading with this guy? I mean yeah hes not got the eye liner though but its just something I was thinking about earlier

Yeah, I think you’re definitely overthinking it for your first theory. He just has whited out eyes because its cool and shows that he is out of control (due to rage, being berserk, or maybe he’s being controlled). SSBerserk, Ultra Super Saiyan, and Rage Trunks (temporarily) all had whited out eyes. There is nothing that sugggest that Kanba’s power is connected to Rage Trunks in any way. And Rage Trunks regained his pupils anyways.

Your crack theory makes more sense than your first theory in my opinion. I think there is a big chance he has a transformation. And if he really is an ancient saiyan (like DBL and the DBSMovie has been focusing on) than maybe he’ll have a new kind of transformation that only ancient saiyans have.

[mahakaishin1991]

Ok so a bit of a thought on Kamba

his whited out eyes and the fact he induces rage and corruption in others makes me wonder if he's thematically there to show what Trunks' super sayan rage could lead to? What Trunks could go if he raged too hard? Perhaps his ability to corrupt others will lead to something new from Trunks in the future?

Also, personal crack theory, but I dont think Kamba is in a base form. His long shaggy hair and tail, along with the fact his entire upper body is covered (which is where the obvious super saiyan 4 traits are) makes me wonder if that's the route they are heading with this guy? I mean yeah hes not got the eye liner though but its just something I was thinking about earlier

Yeah, I think you’re definitely overthinking it for your first theory. He just has whited out eyes because its cool and shows that he is out of control (due to rage, being berserk, or maybe he’s being controlled). SSBerserk, Ultra Super Saiyan, and Rage Trunks (temporarily) all had whited out eyes. There is nothing that sugggest that Kanba’s power is connected to Rage Trunks in any way. And Rage Trunks regained his pupils anyways.

Your crack theory makes more sense than your first theory in my opinion. I think there is a big chance he has a transformation. And if he really is an ancient saiyan (like DBL and the DBSMovie has been focusing on) than maybe he’ll have a new kind of transformation that only ancient saiyans have.

I think I might not have put my first point across well. Super Saiyan Rage has the whited out eyes, so does Berserk, if Kamba can induce immense rage (Which caused Trunk's form to emerge in Super) to the point he can cause a modified super saiyan 2 in Goku, perhaps it could effect Trunks in a different way further down the line? Maybe that's going to be a special card down the line? Or perhaps SSR is going to be Kamba's thing too?

[AnimeNation101]

Ok so a bit of a thought on Kamba

his whited out eyes and the fact he induces rage and corruption in others makes me wonder if he's thematically there to show what Trunks' super sayan rage could lead to? What Trunks could go if he raged too hard? Perhaps his ability to corrupt others will lead to something new from Trunks in the future?

Also, personal crack theory, but I dont think Kamba is in a base form. His long shaggy hair and tail, along with the fact his entire upper body is covered (which is where the obvious super saiyan 4 traits are) makes me wonder if that's the route they are heading with this guy? I mean yeah hes not got the eye liner though but its just something I was thinking about earlier

Yeah, I think you’re definitely overthinking it for your first theory. He just has whited out eyes because its cool and shows that he is out of control (due to rage, being berserk, or maybe he’s being controlled). SSBerserk, Ultra Super Saiyan, and Rage Trunks (temporarily) all had whited out eyes. There is nothing that sugggest that Kanba’s power is connected to Rage Trunks in any way. And Rage Trunks regained his pupils anyways.

Your crack theory makes more sense than your first theory in my opinion. I think there is a big chance he has a transformation. And if he really is an ancient saiyan (like DBL and the DBSMovie has been focusing on) than maybe he’ll have a new kind of transformation that only ancient saiyans have.

I think I might not have put my first point across well. Super Saiyan Rage has the whited out eyes, so does Berserk, if Kamba can induce immense rage (Which caused Trunk's form to emerge in Super) to the point he can cause a modified super saiyan 2 in Goku, perhaps it could effect Trunks in a different way further down the line? Maybe that's going to be a special card down the line? Or perhaps SSR is going to be Kamba's thing too?

Now i understand. Thats actually very plausible

[jeffbr92]

How do you guys pronounce "Xeno"? Is it "Xee no" "Zen oh" or something else?

Zehno, the term comes from Greek.

It is somehow related to the Omni King?

[mahakaishin1991]

How do you guys pronounce "Xeno"? Is it "Xee no" "Zen oh" or something else?

Zehno, the term comes from Greek.

It is somehow related to the Omni King?

Unlikely, Xeno means 'other' or 'to be of foreign origin' hence the timeline debacle

Zen-O literally means 'All King'