In the instance of Ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta and Semi-Perfect Cell’s battle having taken place under the sea, could a random bolt of lightning striking the surface of the area of the water the two morons where located in have had any effect on them? If so, how would this have made a significant impact?shadowfox87 wrote:I answered it here: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=30808&p=1504439#p1504439Steven Bloodriver wrote:If in the hypothetical Otherworld Saga, Great Saiyaman Saga, World Tournament Saga, and Babidi Sagas of this same separate timeline, Future Son Goku, Future Son Gohan, Future Son Goten, and Future Mr. Piccolo had been rather diligently training under Future King Kai in the Future Otherworld since the defeat of Future Android 17 and Future Android 18, and Future Babidi had managed to search for and then convert the likes of Super Saiyan 2 Future Turles, Great Namek Future Lord Slug (Youth Restored), Fifth Form Future Cooler, and the First Form of Future Janemba into Majins before having gone to Future Earth, how different do you think the events would have played out if in the 25th World Martial Arts Tournament, Future Son Gohan in a fit of rage over Future Videl being beaten, had his current strongest transformation at the time evolve into a level even beyond that and used it on Majin Spopovitch?
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Goku in Dragon Ball was hit by lightning during his training with Mr. Popo. While this was filler, he was trying to increase his speed after lightning. If you don't want to count filler, then Jackie Chun / Roshi in the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai used the Thunder Shock Surprise attack which is 20,000 volts on Goku. After Goku transformed into the Great Ape, this had no effect. According to official power levels, his power level during the 21st Tenkaichi Budokai is between 10-180. In Great Ape form, that means 100 to 1800. That means that a power level of 1000 is at least enough to survive 20,000 volts. Lightning is 1 billion volts, or 50,000x more than the Thunder Shock Surprise. Hence, 1000 x 50,000 = 50 million. SSJ Goku on Namek had a power level of 150 million. Hence, a Semi-Perfect Cell and ASSJ Vegeta would be completely unaffected by a lightning strike while under the sea. At most, it would only cause arrythmia (irregular heart beat).Steven Bloodriver wrote:In the instance of Ascended Super Saiyan Vegeta and Semi-Perfect Cell’s battle having taken place under the sea, could a random bolt of lightning striking the surface of the area of the water the two morons where located in have had any effect on them? If so, how would this have made a significant impact?
In addition, if lightning were to strike the surface of the ocean, it would disperse. The amplitude of that lightning would be inversely proportional to the distance from it. That is, the further you are from the point of the strike, you would feel its affects much less.
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What would have happened if Pilaf got his wish? Would the dragon have just plopped Pilaf on King Furry's throne and expected everyone to just accept the change? Would the dragon have changed everyone's memories so that they think Pilaf has always been king of the world? Or would the dragon have simply told Pilaf that it couldn't grant his wish?
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At the beginning of DB, if Pilaf got his wish instead of Oolong, it would be to conquer the world. However, this wish is vague and I'm not sure how Shenlon would interpret it. He may get the title of "king" and people may serve him as such, but that's about it. When King Piccolo is set free, he would lose his power instantly.ZeroNeonix wrote:What would have happened if Pilaf got his wish? Would the dragon have just plopped Pilaf on King Furry's throne and expected everyone to just accept the change? Would the dragon have changed everyone's memories so that they think Pilaf has always been king of the world? Or would the dragon have simply told Pilaf that it couldn't grant his wish?
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Was Majin Boo's regeneration immortality or biology? Vegeta wondered if Majin Boo was immortal, and Zamasu regenerated in a similar fashion, but why can only Majin Boo hurt another?
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Did Goku ever get the chance to apologize to Grandpa Gohan?
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Biology, and maybe a bit of magic. If he was immortal, Goku wouldn't have been able to kill him. Zamasu's regeneration was compromised when he fused with Goku Black, who wasn't immortal.Desassina wrote:Was Majin Boo's regeneration immortality or biology? Vegeta wondered if Majin Boo was immortal, and Zamasu regenerated in a similar fashion, but why can only Majin Boo hurt another?
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This is a good question. Cell could regenerate from a single cell. Buu could regenerate from anything really, even a tiny molecule of gas. Zamasu was immortal, so in the anime and manga, it portrayed it as regeneration. In the anime, he became ethereal, even without a body. In the manga, after he fused with Black though, he became semi-immortal, so he became a lot more like Buu where a destroying a piece of him, only made another Merged Zamasu. Hence, in this case, if all pieces could be disintegrated, he could technically be killed which is why they even bothered to fuse into Vegito. In the anime, I'm not even sure since Vegito couldn't have killed Merged Zamasu. Nothing could since it would have resulted in Infinite Zamasu regardless of the outcome.Desassina wrote:Was Majin Boo's regeneration immortality or biology? Vegeta wondered if Majin Boo was immortal, and Zamasu regenerated in a similar fashion, but why can only Majin Boo hurt another?
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I was going by the manga when I asked, but if I had to consider the anime, then there's the possibility of Majin Boo's evil, which existed since time immemorial, to be ethereal prior to Bibidi's summon. It was made into an immortal Pure Boo that could shape shift, but the Genki-dama overwhelmed him with the mortals' energy, in the same vein as Trunks' sword cutting through Zamasu. However, why wasn't Pure Boo's defeat met with another wallpaper, when his body ceased to exist? My answer to that is the existence of another Majin Boo: the fat one. He's still Pure Boo beneath the Kaioshins, and his power going down in their fight meant that, little by little, Pure Boo was making him his own, like an entity who wants to return to itself. Theory's end.
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Why didn't Kind Cold transform, or was that actually his final form? Are Frieza and Frost unique in the number of transformations they have in their race? Is that why they are considered "mutants?"
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It was told by Toriyama that Cold was slightly weaker than his son. It's unknown whether he had further transformations but he will make an appearance in the upcoming Prison Arc promotional anime. They are considered mutants because they are variant, meaning it's rare in their population to exhibit the traits that they have.ZeroNeonix wrote:Why didn't Kind Cold transform, or was that actually his final form? Are Frieza and Frost unique in the number of transformations they have in their race? Is that why they are considered "mutants?"
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There's always the DB multiverse iteration of King Cold where the form we saw is the 2nd of his 6 forms lol.shadowfox87 wrote:It was told by Toriyama that Cold was slightly weaker than his son. It's unknown whether he had further transformations but he will make an appearance in the upcoming Prison Arc promotional anime. They are considered mutants because they are variant, meaning it's rare in their population to exhibit the traits that they have.ZeroNeonix wrote:Why didn't Kind Cold transform, or was that actually his final form? Are Frieza and Frost unique in the number of transformations they have in their race? Is that why they are considered "mutants?"
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There isn't, it's a fanfic work, not an official one. No reason to take it into consideration. We don't know if King Cold can transform.PFM18 wrote:There's always the DB multiverse iteration of King Cold where the form we saw is the 2nd of his 6 forms lol.
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Well yeah obviously it has no influence on the canonGrimlock wrote:There isn't, it's a fanfic work, not an official one. No reason to take it into consideration. We don't know if King Cold can transform.PFM18 wrote:There's always the DB multiverse iteration of King Cold where the form we saw is the 2nd of his 6 forms lol.
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DB Multiverse is awesome, but yea. Toriyama said himself that he doesn't like making higher transformations bigger and scarier but wants to go against that kind of thinking. This is why Freeza's fourth form was what it is.Grimlock wrote:There isn't, it's a fanfic work, not an official one. No reason to take it into consideration. We don't know if King Cold can transform.PFM18 wrote:There's always the DB multiverse iteration of King Cold where the form we saw is the 2nd of his 6 forms lol.
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The point was that we dont know but if you REALLY want to know what possible further forms would look like for King Cold, that is what they could possibly look like.shadowfox87 wrote:DB Multiverse is awesome, but yea. Toriyama said himself that he doesn't like making higher transformations bigger and scarier but wants to go against that kind of thinking. This is why Freeza's fourth form was what it is.Grimlock wrote:There isn't, it's a fanfic work, not an official one. No reason to take it into consideration. We don't know if King Cold can transform.PFM18 wrote:There's always the DB multiverse iteration of King Cold where the form we saw is the 2nd of his 6 forms lol.
But the comment ultimately wasnt supposed to be taken seriously
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A question who have been stroling in my mind is does Majin Buu and Majin Ozotto come from the same species ?
And what is a Majin in the Dragon Ball Universe ? And how demon like Demigra can become Majin too ?
And what is a Majin in the Dragon Ball Universe ? And how demon like Demigra can become Majin too ?
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Majin is derived from djinn which is like genie or magical creature. Wizards like Demigra and Babidi use their magic to control others which puts the "Majin" symbol on their head to signify that magic is being used. However, some creatures are already from that magical race like Buu and Ozotto so are Majin naturally. Demigra and Babidi however are not from the Majin race. Buu creates his own Majin race later on. That's what I think anyways.Bebi Hatchiyack wrote:A question who have been stroling in my mind is does Majin Buu and Majin Ozotto come from the same species ?
And what is a Majin in the Dragon Ball Universe ? And how demon like Demigra can become Majin too ?
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The Dragon Ball universe is kind of confusing with its demons and demon-like creatures. Demigra and Dabura are actual demons from the demon realm. Then there are Oni, the race who manage the underworld, such as King Yemma. King Piccolo and his children were called demons, since Piccolo was the evil counterpart of Kami (God). Majin Buu is a mysterious being from the ancient past. No one knows where he came from. The Majin symbol is used by wizards Babidi and Demigra to show their control over the minds of evil people.Bebi Hatchiyack wrote:A question who have been stroling in my mind is does Majin Buu and Majin Ozotto come from the same species ?
And what is a Majin in the Dragon Ball Universe ? And how demon like Demigra can become Majin too ?
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Re: Unanswered questions that you wish were answered?
Mine are
Where is Zalama and what is he? What is he doing?
Why does Goku have no interest in his father?
Where did Majin Buu come from?
How strong is Daishinkai exactly?
Did Daishinkai live before time because in the manga he knows how old the multiverse is?
What was he virus that killed Goku and how did he get it?
How old is Mr.Popo?
According to Raditz baby saiyans are sent to weak planets to destroy them so are their any other lost saiyans out there besides Tarble and Goku?
How did the Namekians find the super dragon balls?
Are thereally any other powerful warriors in universe 7 beside's the fighters on Earth?
What do the real Hell and Heaven look like?
What does the Demon realm look like?
Where is Zalama and what is he? What is he doing?
Why does Goku have no interest in his father?
Where did Majin Buu come from?
How strong is Daishinkai exactly?
Did Daishinkai live before time because in the manga he knows how old the multiverse is?
What was he virus that killed Goku and how did he get it?
How old is Mr.Popo?
According to Raditz baby saiyans are sent to weak planets to destroy them so are their any other lost saiyans out there besides Tarble and Goku?
How did the Namekians find the super dragon balls?
Are thereally any other powerful warriors in universe 7 beside's the fighters on Earth?
What do the real Hell and Heaven look like?
What does the Demon realm look like?