Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[JazzMazz]

Nothing i asked for in the db movie had anything to do with nostalgic feeling. I never even mention nostalgia. I asked for 3 things. Heavy plot, good action, and no poop jokes. How are any of these things you’d find in a Pixar film of all films?

As for 2 hours, thats not long at all. Even in a recent interview the Chief of the Dragon Ball Room said this:



Even after finishing the story, Toriyama thought it was “too short” so him and Toei added plot points which then made the story unexpectedly long. And as of now, they’re finding a middle ground. If One Piece can a 2 hour movie thats keeps its high quality throughout the film, so can Dragon Ball. And with all the history, flashbacks, lore, world-building, and character introductions we’ll be getting, filling 2 hours with quality content should be easy.

However, I am rather dubious of the Dragon Ball movie being a complete two hours long; I don't recall a situation in the past where a Dragon Ball film has ran on for that long, and specifically, I don't truly know if Dragon Ball would be able to uphold that imposed time without things feeling a little tiring. Let it be known that I'm no stranger for marathonning the show for well past two hours, but Toriyama's never been one for entirely captivating movie plots; Resurrection F already feels like it runs through the paces at 94 minutes with plenty of fighting filler, and while Battle of Gods is certainly captivating, the theatrical version isn't really that long. Hence to say, I just don't know if the new Super movie being overly-long is truly a good thing. However, as many have pointed out, this film does feature a dual-layered plot, and while I don't believe we're really going to get as much development on the past side of the plot as many think, the comments on most One Piece films being over an hour and 45 minutes has somewhat shifted my thoughts. I'm not well-versed in One Piece, but from what I understand the general appeal and atmosphere appears to reflect Dragon Ball, so I suppose the new Super movie could pull off being a long film and not feel grating after a while? Obviously, I do hope that's the case we'll be getting come December.

Well, i wouldn’t say One Piece reflects modern Dragon Ball. It has way more of an adventure aspect to it. And while i haven’t seen any of its movies, in the show, they’re always travelling, never staying too long in one place, and sometimes have the crew split up in different places so that in case we get tired of watching one character in one place, we can just switch. With this DB Movie, its lore heavy nature and multiple “parties” also brings some kind of adventure to it.

Like One Piece, it seems like with the fact that we’ll have Freeza, the antagonist saiyans, the Goku and co, each on their own at the beginning so we’ll be switch back and forth between the 3 parties until they converge into one for the main battle at presumably the ice planet. At the same time, we’ll be switching back and forth between the present and past. With all this switching between different places, characters, stories, and fights in this movie, 2 hours seems like a good time for all that content to be fit in.

I'm surprised how the director of the film hasn't at all been bought up in this little exchange.

I think is worth noting that this is the first modern DB movie to be under the direction of a genuinely talented director. People keep on bringing up One Piece with association with this film, because the Director, Tatsuya Nagamine, was also the director of the highly successful and well recieved One Piece film Z.

The last two DB films were handled by directors with incredibly weak track records comparatively.

If we can get something out off Nagamine like One Piece film Z, I'll be more than content with this new film.

[WittyUsername]

However, I am rather dubious of the Dragon Ball movie being a complete two hours long; I don't recall a situation in the past where a Dragon Ball film has ran on for that long, and specifically, I don't truly know if Dragon Ball would be able to uphold that imposed time without things feeling a little tiring. Let it be known that I'm no stranger for marathonning the show for well past two hours, but Toriyama's never been one for entirely captivating movie plots; Resurrection F already feels like it runs through the paces at 94 minutes with plenty of fighting filler, and while Battle of Gods is certainly captivating, the theatrical version isn't really that long. Hence to say, I just don't know if the new Super movie being overly-long is truly a good thing. However, as many have pointed out, this film does feature a dual-layered plot, and while I don't believe we're really going to get as much development on the past side of the plot as many think, the comments on most One Piece films being over an hour and 45 minutes has somewhat shifted my thoughts. I'm not well-versed in One Piece, but from what I understand the general appeal and atmosphere appears to reflect Dragon Ball, so I suppose the new Super movie could pull off being a long film and not feel grating after a while? Obviously, I do hope that's the case we'll be getting come December.

Well, i wouldn’t say One Piece reflects modern Dragon Ball. It has way more of an adventure aspect to it. And while i haven’t seen any of its movies, in the show, they’re always travelling, never staying too long in one place, and sometimes have the crew split up in different places so that in case we get tired of watching one character in one place, we can just switch. With this DB Movie, its lore heavy nature and multiple “parties” also brings some kind of adventure to it.

Like One Piece, it seems like with the fact that we’ll have Freeza, the antagonist saiyans, the Goku and co, each on their own at the beginning so we’ll be switch back and forth between the 3 parties until they converge into one for the main battle at presumably the ice planet. At the same time, we’ll be switching back and forth between the present and past. With all this switching between different places, characters, stories, and fights in this movie, 2 hours seems like a good time for all that content to be fit in.

I'm surprised how the director of the film hasn't at all been bought up in this little exchange.

I think is worth noting that this is the first modern DB movie to be under the direction of a genuinely talented director. People keep on bringing up One Piece with association with this film, because the Director, Tatsuya Nagamine, was also the director of the highly successful and well recieved One Piece film Z.

The last two DB films were handled by directors with incredibly weak track records comparatively.

If we can get something out off Nagamine like One Piece film Z, I'll be more than content with this new film.

I can’t say I have any idea what difference the choice in directors can make for films like this, but I do hope we get something better than Ressurection ‘F’.

[JazzMazz]

Well, i wouldn’t say One Piece reflects modern Dragon Ball. It has way more of an adventure aspect to it. And while i haven’t seen any of its movies, in the show, they’re always travelling, never staying too long in one place, and sometimes have the crew split up in different places so that in case we get tired of watching one character in one place, we can just switch. With this DB Movie, its lore heavy nature and multiple “parties” also brings some kind of adventure to it.

Like One Piece, it seems like with the fact that we’ll have Freeza, the antagonist saiyans, the Goku and co, each on their own at the beginning so we’ll be switch back and forth between the 3 parties until they converge into one for the main battle at presumably the ice planet. At the same time, we’ll be switching back and forth between the present and past. With all this switching between different places, characters, stories, and fights in this movie, 2 hours seems like a good time for all that content to be fit in.

I'm surprised how the director of the film hasn't at all been bought up in this little exchange.

I think is worth noting that this is the first modern DB movie to be under the direction of a genuinely talented director. People keep on bringing up One Piece with association with this film, because the Director, Tatsuya Nagamine, was also the director of the highly successful and well recieved One Piece film Z.

The last two DB films were handled by directors with incredibly weak track records comparatively.

If we can get something out off Nagamine like One Piece film Z, I'll be more than content with this new film.

I can’t say I have any idea what difference the choice in directors can make for films like this, but I do hope we get something better than Ressurection ‘F’.

It makes literally all the difference in the world.

A director has control of how scenes and story beats established in the script are handled, and can edit the script to fit a particular vision if they see necessary.

They determine how the events of the story are presented to the audience, and its their role to make make sure that the narrative beats set up in the story land, as well as telling the actual story.

The thing about the previous two DB films, was that they had untalented and unexperienced directors taking the helm and it showed on screen, with the unengaging presentation of events in that film being a direct result of their poor direction.

Nagamine on the other hand is experienced, and has a solid track record. He is a director that is more than capable of presenting an engaging narrative in film format if given the opportunity.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Wow they're hitting the movie month pretty hard! December Banpresto will release 4 prize figures (Son Goku Limited, Ultimate Soliders I, II, III), a WCF set and on top of that December is where the next Ichiban Kuji hits and sure enough it's movie related! I will know what Bandai's December release plan is end of next month but October was non existent and if November is too then we're in for a big month from them, potentially looking at any or all of Shodo/Adverge/UDM/UG/VS/HG Premium. This doesn't surprise me as March was a massive success and that was the first time they simultaneously marketed something the same time as the show! For comparison the month ResF opened in Japan all we got was one Goku figure and one UDM set (which leaked out SSGSS).

Now what this means for spoilers, well next month December catalogues will be sent out to gamestations for order with prices and case ratios with anything spoiler-y being blanked (eg. the DBS March WCF labelled F as "Son Goku" but as you can see was blanked out) now the villain will be revealed this month I assume with the trailer so if they and or Goku/Vegeta are blanked that probably means new forms (or if they want to hide UI I guess). They did this for UI which was what inadvertently gave away that UI was indeed gonna look different to "Omen".

[AnimeNation101]

Wow they're hitting the movie month pretty hard! December Banpresto will release 4 prize figures (Son Goku Limited, Ultimate Soliders I, II, III), a WCF set and on top of that December is where the next Ichiban Kuji hits and sure enough it's movie related! I will know what Bandai's December release plan is end of next month but October was non existent and if November is too then we're in for a big month from them, potentially looking at any or all of Shodo/Adverge/UDM/UG/VS/HG Premium. This doesn't surprise me as March was a massive success and that was the first time they simultaneously marketed something the same time as the show! For comparison the month ResF opened in Japan all we got was one Goku figure and one UDM set (which leaked out SSGSS).

Now what this means for spoilers, well next month December catalogues will be sent out to gamestations for order with prices and case ratios with anything spoiler-y being blanked (eg. the DBS March WCF labelled F as "Son Goku" but as you can see was blanked out) now the villain will be revealed this month I assume with the trailer so if they and or Goku/Vegeta are blanked that probably means new forms (or if they want to hide UI I guess). They did this for UI which was what inadvertently gave away that UI was indeed gonna look different to "Omen".

I think the villain has a new form so maybe they’ll have that but blocked out too.

[Michsi]

We're getting a trailer soon, right? I know that DB tour will have its first stop sometime July but we have AX this weekend. Any chance we might see something from there? Think someone said Toei has stand there this year.

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

We're getting a trailer soon, right? I know that DB tour will have its first stop sometime July but we have AX this weekend. Any chance we might see something from there? Think someone said Toei has stand there this year.

I don't think we'll see much at AX. Maybe an English dub announcement along with a US release date? As for the trailer, we should expect to see that at the DB Tour at Comic Con. There should be a trailer on the 20th since that's when pre-release tickets go on sale in Japan.

EDIT: All this time I thought that Comic Con and the DB Tour were just two different things happening around the same time. I never thought to put the two together since the DB Tour is actually going to be at Comic Con and other cons/expos. I'm stupid.

[Michsi]

We're getting a trailer soon, right? I know that DB tour will have its first stop sometime July but we have AX this weekend. Any chance we might see something from there? Think someone said Toei has stand there this year.

I don't think we'll see much at AX. Maybe an English dub announcement along with a US release date? As for the trailer, we should expect to see that at the DB Tour at Comic Con. There should be a trailer on the 20th since that's when pre-release tickets go on sale in Japan.

EDIT: All this time I thought that Comic Con and the DB Tour were just two different things happening around the same time. I never thought to put the two together since the DB Tour is actually going to be at Comic Con and other cons/expos. I'm stupid.

Thanks!


Ditto. I was probably thinking of Kameha Con, which was a DB only event, and thought this would be similar. Makes more sense now.

[majinwarman]

I'm surprised how the director of the film hasn't at all been bought up in this little exchange.

I think is worth noting that this is the first modern DB movie to be under the direction of a genuinely talented director. People keep on bringing up One Piece with association with this film, because the Director, Tatsuya Nagamine, was also the director of the highly successful and well recieved One Piece film Z.

The last two DB films were handled by directors with incredibly weak track records comparatively.

If we can get something out off Nagamine like One Piece film Z, I'll be more than content with this new film.

I can’t say I have any idea what difference the choice in directors can make for films like this, but I do hope we get something better than Ressurection ‘F’.

It makes literally all the difference in the world.

A director has control of how scenes and story beats established in the script are handled, and can edit the script to fit a particular vision if they see necessary.

They determine how the events of the story are presented to the audience, and its their role to make make sure that the narrative beats set up in the story land, as well as telling the actual story.

The thing about the previous two DB films, was that they had untalented and unexperienced directors taking the helm and it showed on screen, with the unengaging presentation of events in that film being a direct result of their poor direction.

Nagamine on the other hand is experienced, and has a solid track record. He is a director that is more than capable of presenting an engaging narrative in film format if given the opportunity.

Also, I think people don't really think about him as much due to the fact we already saw him as he was the series director for Super.

[WittyUsername]

I'm surprised how the director of the film hasn't at all been bought up in this little exchange.

I think is worth noting that this is the first modern DB movie to be under the direction of a genuinely talented director. People keep on bringing up One Piece with association with this film, because the Director, Tatsuya Nagamine, was also the director of the highly successful and well recieved One Piece film Z.

The last two DB films were handled by directors with incredibly weak track records comparatively.

If we can get something out off Nagamine like One Piece film Z, I'll be more than content with this new film.

I can’t say I have any idea what difference the choice in directors can make for films like this, but I do hope we get something better than Ressurection ‘F’.

It makes literally all the difference in the world.

A director has control of how scenes and story beats established in the script are handled, and can edit the script to fit a particular vision if they see necessary.

They determine how the events of the story are presented to the audience, and its their role to make make sure that the narrative beats set up in the story land, as well as telling the actual story.

The thing about the previous two DB films, was that they had untalented and unexperienced directors taking the helm and it showed on screen, with the unengaging presentation of events in that film being a direct result of their poor direction.

Nagamine on the other hand is experienced, and has a solid track record. He is a director that is more than capable of presenting an engaging narrative in film format if given the opportunity.

I know directors are obviously important for most films. I just wasn’t really sure what difference it makes in the case of an animated Dragon Ball film, given that these movies are taking blueprints from Toriyama.

[AnimeNation101]

Someone on twitter said [spoiler]according to 5ch the new saiyan kills Beerus[/spoiler]

I don’t know how to find the dbs 5ch discussions, let alone if what the guy said was true.

[Vegeta_Sama]

Someone on twitter said [spoiler]according to 5ch the new saiyan kills Beerus[/spoiler]

I don’t know how to find the dbs 5ch discussions, let alone if what the guy said was true.

Fuck, if that's true, then this is the most anticlimactic way of finding out

[Chuquita]

I'm skeptical; feels too early to have a plot point that big revealed.

5ch is here - http://itest.5ch.net/subback/anime

[Mister_Popo]

This guy could just be spreading headcanon.

[AnimeNation101]

I'm skeptical; feels too early to have a plot point that big revealed.

5ch is here - http://itest.5ch.net/subback/anime

Thanks, and I'm split.

OIn one hand, i would love for such an interesting thing to happen but on the other, I’d be just as mad that I was spoiled about such an interesting thing happening.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Death doesn't mean a lot when Whis can undone it with his own powers.

[AnimeNation101]

Death doesn't mean a lot when Whis can undone it with his own powers.

You know,

1. You shouldn’t have mentioned death because it was a rumor and possible spoiler that we are talking about

2. [spoiler]Once Beerus dies, Whis is inactive. So no, that isn’t how it works.[/spoiler]

[BlueBasilisk]

I wouldn't put any stock into that at all. It's one of the most low-hanging bait "spoilers" you could think of.

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

It is waaay too soon for spoilers like that to come out. I doubt it's real.

[Dragono]

Death doesn't mean a lot when Whis can undone it with his own powers.

You do know that if Beerus dies, whis can't use his powers, right?