I mean yeah he can. Just change the character entirely but keep the name and appearance the same. Completely different backstory, no crazy dad, no insane motives for hating Goku, and any capability for dialogue of any kind.jeffbr92 wrote:Good character or not, is not like Toriyama can magically improve his character just because he's the author of the series.sintzu wrote:The difference is that Bardock was a good character. Broly on the other hand...let's just say there's no way but up to go.
Y’know... I don’t get Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro’s decisions at times.
Re: Y’know... I don’t get Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro’s decisions at times.
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Re: Y’know... I don’t get Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro’s decisions at times.
I swear the internet is like this right now:
Toei: Send Broly.
*Broly has entered the server*
Broly: It's Broly time!
*Made up Canonicity rules-fans have left the server*
Broly: Puny fans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQdtI_DZrac
Toei: Send Broly.
*Broly has entered the server*
Broly: It's Broly time!
*Made up Canonicity rules-fans have left the server*
Broly: Puny fans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQdtI_DZrac
"Citation needed."
"too lazy
feel free to take it with grain of salt or discredit me altogether, I'm not losing any sleep"
"too lazy
feel free to take it with grain of salt or discredit me altogether, I'm not losing any sleep"
Re: Y’know... I don’t get Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro’s decisions at times.
If this is true (I don't think it's 100% yet) then all those canon debates are out the window. When I said no one has to say what's canon for us to know this is exactly what I meant. Good luck arguing canon for Toei's Broly or anything else they did in those movies and even GT now that this is (maybe) a thing.Cetra wrote:I swear the internet is like this right now:
Toei: Send Broly.
*Broly has entered the server*
*Made up Canonicity rules-fans have left the server*
Broly: Puny fans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQdtI_DZrac
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.
Re: Y’know... I don’t get Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro’s decisions at times.
Power levels are not just big numbers:
by Doctor.
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Re: Y’know... I don’t get Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro’s decisions at times.
It is no problem for someone to argue canonicity if someone actually argues while knowing what it means and not the 99,9999% of stuff that happens here, like "its the same no matter the inconsistencies" or "they are both part of two different guidelines"- Because canons are scales/guidelines and can exist in multiple versions, et cetera. The options are broad.sintzu wrote:If this is true (I don't think it's 100% yet) then all those canon debates are out the window. When I said no one has to say what's canon for us to know this is exactly what I meant. Good luck arguing canon for Toei's Broly or anything else they did in those movies and even GT now that this is (maybe) a thing.Cetra wrote:I swear the internet is like this right now:
Toei: Send Broly.
*Broly has entered the server*
*Made up Canonicity rules-fans have left the server*
Broly: Puny fans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQdtI_DZrac
"Citation needed."
"too lazy
feel free to take it with grain of salt or discredit me altogether, I'm not losing any sleep"
"too lazy
feel free to take it with grain of salt or discredit me altogether, I'm not losing any sleep"
Re: Y’know... I don’t get Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro’s decisions at times.
Still a bit shocked lol. All this hype and mystery... and it's Brolyjeffbr92 wrote:https://twitter.com/DB_super2015/status ... 4327218177
There's the unfortunate confirmation
EDIT: Twitter delivers

Re: Y’know... I don’t get Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro’s decisions at times.
Well, the announcement sounds like a different Broly. But let's wait for more info.
"Citation needed."
"too lazy
feel free to take it with grain of salt or discredit me altogether, I'm not losing any sleep"
"too lazy
feel free to take it with grain of salt or discredit me altogether, I'm not losing any sleep"
Re: Y’know... I don’t get Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro’s decisions at times.
If it still voiced by Bin Shimada, I'll try to be fine with it.Cetra wrote:Well, the announcement sounds like a different Broly. But let's wait for more info.
Power levels are not just big numbers:
by Doctor.
Spoiler:
by Doctor.
Re: Y’know... I don’t get Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro’s decisions at times.
This decision by Toriyama and Toei is definitely understandable.
And now with a reboot of Broly's character it means he might be a little different than the original version.
I'm so excited!
And now with a reboot of Broly's character it means he might be a little different than the original version.
I'm so excited!
Re: Y’know... I don’t get Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro’s decisions at times.
But they are talking of a copy. This is weird? Like Bio Broly? But even then it could be a reference to the old Broly because to have a copy they have to refer to an original. Except they mean the copy in a meta-meaning like "other version" since it can be a reboot.
"Citation needed."
"too lazy
feel free to take it with grain of salt or discredit me altogether, I'm not losing any sleep"
"too lazy
feel free to take it with grain of salt or discredit me altogether, I'm not losing any sleep"
Re: Y’know... I don’t get Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro’s decisions at times.
Broly wrecking 2 SsjBs only for Goku to re-awake UI and rip him apart ? That's how you get butts in seats.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.
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Toriyama on Broly from official website:
Everyone, are you familiar with Broly?
He's an incredibly strong Saiyan who only appeared in the old anime movies, and I apparently at least drew the designs for him, but I had practically no involvement with the anime at the time, so I had totally forgotten about the story content.
So, about Broly. I hear these days, he's still very popular not only in Japan, but also overseas. Based on that, my editor suggested we have Broly appear in this next movie.
I went ahead and watched the movies from back then, and I felt this could be quite interesting once I rearrange some things. I got right to work trying my hand at a story that incorporates him into the Dragon Ball Super series.
While keeping in mind Broly's classic image so as not to disappoint his fans, I updated him and added a new side to his character, and I think this has resulted in a more fascinating Broly.
Naturally you’ll get to see fierce combat, but also, the paths of destiny that lead to an encounter between Goku, Vegeta, and Broly. It also involves the Frieza Force and the history of the Saiyans, which end up having a major connection to everything. The story content turns out to be very large-scale and dramatic.
Here comes that almighty Saiyan, Broly! I'm also including lots of other content all you fans will enjoy, so look forward to it, and be patient a while longer for it all to come together!!
Re: Y’know... I don’t get Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro’s decisions at times.
This whole copy thing is so weird right now. I think at best it is meant as a clone, which would be fine for me because it would still be a tie-in but still quite sad because it is a new Broly nonetheless only regarding to be another clone of the original and at worst it is a reboot and that's what they mean. I mean, I guess both would be fine somewhat. We'll see.
"Citation needed."
"too lazy
feel free to take it with grain of salt or discredit me altogether, I'm not losing any sleep"
"too lazy
feel free to take it with grain of salt or discredit me altogether, I'm not losing any sleep"
Re: Y’know... I don’t get Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro’s decisions at times.
Battle of Gods should've bombed.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
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Re: Y’know... I don’t get Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro’s decisions at times.
Okay, sounds like a reboot. Sounds.Basaku wrote:Toriyama on Broly from official website:
Everyone, are you familiar with Broly?
He's an incredibly strong Saiyan who only appeared in the old anime movies, and I apparently at least drew the designs for him, but I had practically no involvement with the anime at the time, so I had totally forgotten about the story content.
So, about Broly. I hear these days, he's still very popular not only in Japan, but also overseas. Based on that, my editor suggested we have Broly appear in this next movie.
I went ahead and watched the movies from back then, and I felt this could be quite interesting once I rearrange some things. I got right to work trying my hand at a story that incorporates him into the Dragon Ball Super series.
While keeping in mind Broly's classic image so as not to disappoint his fans, I updated him and added a new side to his character, and I think this has resulted in a more fascinating Broly.
Naturally you’ll get to see fierce combat, but also, the paths of destiny that lead to an encounter between Goku, Vegeta, and Broly. It also involves the Frieza Force and the history of the Saiyans, which end up having a major connection to everything. The story content turns out to be very large-scale and dramatic.
Here comes that almighty Saiyan, Broly! I'm also including lots of other content all you fans will enjoy, so look forward to it, and be patient a while longer for it all to come together!!
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"Citation needed."
"too lazy
feel free to take it with grain of salt or discredit me altogether, I'm not losing any sleep"
"too lazy
feel free to take it with grain of salt or discredit me altogether, I'm not losing any sleep"
Re: Y’know... I don’t get Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro’s decisions at times.
But it's, like, the seventh chance to do Broly right. Whatever could go wrong?ekrolo2 wrote:Battle of Gods should've bombed.
Re: Y’know... I don’t get Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro’s decisions at times.
"could be quite interesting once I rearrange some things"Basaku wrote:Toriyama on Broly from official website:
Everyone, are you familiar with Broly?
He's an incredibly strong Saiyan who only appeared in the old anime movies, and I apparently at least drew the designs for him, but I had practically no involvement with the anime at the time, so I had totally forgotten about the story content.
So, about Broly. I hear these days, he's still very popular not only in Japan, but also overseas. Based on that, my editor suggested we have Broly appear in this next movie.
I went ahead and watched the movies from back then, and I felt this could be quite interesting once I rearrange some things. I got right to work trying my hand at a story that incorporates him into the Dragon Ball Super series.
While keeping in mind Broly's classic image so as not to disappoint his fans, I updated him and added a new side to his character, and I think this has resulted in a more fascinating Broly.
Naturally you’ll get to see fierce combat, but also, the paths of destiny that lead to an encounter between Goku, Vegeta, and Broly. It also involves the Frieza Force and the history of the Saiyans, which end up having a major connection to everything. The story content turns out to be very large-scale and dramatic.
Here comes that almighty Saiyan, Broly! I'm also including lots of other content all you fans will enjoy, so look forward to it, and be patient a while longer for it all to come together!!
"I updated him and added a new side to his character"
This doesn't sound like enough changes to the character to me
Doctor. wrote:But it's, like, the seventh chance to do Broly right. Whatever could go wrong?ekrolo2 wrote:Battle of Gods should've bombed.
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Spoiler:
Re: Y’know... I don’t get Toei/Toriyama/Toyotaro’s decisions at times.
Source link, please.Basaku wrote:Toriyama on Broly from official website:
[spoiler]Everyone, are you familiar with Broly?
He's an incredibly strong Saiyan who only appeared in the old anime movies, and I apparently at least drew the designs for him, but I had practically no involvement with the anime at the time, so I had totally forgotten about the story content.
So, about Broly. I hear these days, he's still very popular not only in Japan, but also overseas. Based on that, my editor suggested we have Broly appear in this next movie.
I went ahead and watched the movies from back then, and I felt this could be quite interesting once I rearrange some things. I got right to work trying my hand at a story that incorporates him into the Dragon Ball Super series.
While keeping in mind Broly's classic image so as not to disappoint his fans, I updated him and added a new side to his character, and I think this has resulted in a more fascinating Broly.
Naturally you’ll get to see fierce combat, but also, the paths of destiny that lead to an encounter between Goku, Vegeta, and Broly. It also involves the Frieza Force and the history of the Saiyans, which end up having a major connection to everything. The story content turns out to be very large-scale and dramatic.
Here comes that almighty Saiyan, Broly! I'm also including lots of other content all you fans will enjoy, so look forward to it, and be patient a while longer for it all to come together!![/spoiler]
So basically Movie 8 all over again? lolsintzu wrote:Broly wrecking 2 SsjBs only for Goku to re-awake UI and rip him apart ? That's how you get butts in seats.
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