Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

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Re: Official "DB Super 2018 Movie" Discussion Thread

Post by sunsetshimmer » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:20 pm

BrolyKale wrote:Kale is not a reboot of Broly... stop with that. The only thing she has in common is the green hair and her "clothes" dear god.
And the same lines, the same techniques and exactly the same moves. She also hates Goku.

Yeah, probably only a coincidence.

She is completely different character, nothing like Broly.

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Re: Official "DB Super 2018 Movie" Discussion Thread

Post by BrolyKale » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:21 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote:
BrolyKale wrote:Kale is not a reboot of Broly... stop with that. The only thing she has in common is the green hair and her "clothes" dear god.
And the same lines, the same techniques and exactly the same moves. She also hates Goku.

Yeah, probably only a coincidence.

She is completely different character, nothing like Broly.

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She hates everyone who approaches Caulifla. Same quotes? yes and no. She can't even speak while she is in her Berserker form while Broly could speak properly in the first movie. She is a completely different character with the same transformation as Broly.
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Post by PhoenixCyke » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:21 pm

Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:This movie's gonna make so much money oh my god. I feel like I should give my full thoughts after that knee jerk post before.

The poster looks awesome. That was probably done by Shintani.

For the past 4ish months I was one of the heavy deniers of that Saiyan character in the teaser being Broly, but... holy shit. It's actually him. I've never disliked the character, there just wasn't much to him. So I actually really like this idea of trying again with the character, this time with more involvement from Toriyama. Is it an attempt by a studio trying to capitalise off of an extremely popular character? Fucking of course it is. But if they can do it right and actually make him an interesting character, then that is a win and I'll be very happy.

I can't believe a was asleep while all of this dropped.
I don't like Broly for many reasons that were posted above but what I don't like now is the idea of coming back after 2-3 movies and Kale. For a movie I wanted something new. They could introduce him in a new series after Super.

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Post by miguelnuva1 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:22 pm

I can't wait to do Broly vs Broli in a future video game. I hope Super Broly scars like Cell saga Vegeta.

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Post by Basaku » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:23 pm

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BrolyKale wrote:He actually had, even the creator of the movie says that in his recent interview
Because the creator of the movie totally ain't completly biased lol...
Hmmm... he created the character so he knows exactly what he is talking about and what he wanted to do with the character. You are just hating for no reason.
There's a big difference between what he (or any other creator/director) 'wanted' to do and what he actually did. None of that is even in the movie, if that's what the director/creator wanted to convey in the character then he should've, you know... do it? You're defending something that doesn't exist, so spare me the "haters just hating" no-argument.

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Re: Official "DB Super 2018 Movie" Discussion Thread

Post by BrolyKale » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:24 pm

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Basaku wrote:Because the creator of the movie totally ain't completly biased lol...
Hmmm... he created the character so he knows exactly what he is talking about and what he wanted to do with the character. You are just hating for no reason.
Ahhh big difference what he 'wanted' to do and what he did. None of that is even in the movie, if that's what the director/creator wanted to convey in the character then he should've, you know... actually do it? You're defending something that doesn't exist, so spare me the "haters just hating" no-argument.
He did. You just don't see it. If you watch the original version of the movie you would understand a lot of things, the dub is filled with dumd quotes.
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Re: Official "DB Super 2018 Movie" Discussion Thread

Post by BlueBasilisk » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:25 pm

BrolyKale wrote:Broly does have a personality in the first movie, watch it again when he tranforms into the LSSJ.
I think people forget what he was really like in the first movie. Once he breaks out of Paragus' control, he has quite a bit of dialogue and very little of it is "Kakarot." Or if you've ever played Xenoverse 2, he's the same way there.

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Post by AnimeNation101 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:25 pm

There’s a 60 percent chance of Gogeta, a 70 percent chance of Bardock and a 30 percent chance of an SSJ4-type form
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie. 8)

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Post by jeffbr92 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:25 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:I also can already feel Vic Mignogna's poor vocal cords cringing at the mere idea. :lol:
Who cares about him really pick another ENG VA if he's not satisfied lol, if we get this crazy fuck to voice Broly again, I'll be more than fine with it.
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Re: Official "DB Super 2018 Movie" Discussion Thread

Post by Basaku » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:25 pm

BrolyKale wrote:He did. You just don't see it. If you watch the original version of the movie you would understand a lot of things, the dub is filled with dumd quotes.
I never watched the dub, nice try though. No non-existing thing to see in original version either.

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Post by miguelnuva1 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:26 pm

I kinda want an arc now where Goku, Vegeta and Broly have to tram up with Cabba, Kale and Caulifa.

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Post by Zephyr » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:26 pm

Grimlock wrote:FighterZ brought a new character, Heroes is presenting a more interesting plot with also a more interesting character and Xenoverse, although we're in at its second installment, their plot is still more interesting than reusing a shit movie character for a fourth time.

I would want an original plot for a 2018 movie, but if they unfortunately want to use someone from the past, then pick someone interesting. Not only it's not a original plot, the character from the past couldn't be any worse. So yeah, the movie has nothing going on for it, it's even more terrible than Movie 15, which I didn't like since it was announced it was Freeza returning. So please, try to understand better what's going on here.
Online, Heroes, Xenoverse, and FighterZ all feature thinly-veiled "video game excuse" plots, that serve to make rudimentary sense of why characters from disparate time periods, continuities, and the like are fighting each other. What interesting and compelling character development happens there?

And you know next to nothing about the film's plot. Not only is it not out yet, but Toriyama's use of Bardock in Dragon Ball Minus, coupled with his public statement on the film itself, indicates that this Broly will be distinct from the Broly you have a pathological loathing for. If merely reusing an existing character is sufficient for a plot to be unoriginal, then, again, nothing about these video games that you're praising involve original plots.

Moreover, if FighterZ gets a pass for having a new character, then you should be giving the film a pass as well. Look, new characters!
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Post by TheShadowEmperor8055 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:26 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Well... this explains why the original Broly movie would be appearing in American theatres in September.
Yup, as I said here, everything Toei is doing thus far is for a reason:
TheShadowEmperor8055 wrote:They said the movie would be about the Saiyans, their history, would include Freeza and the main villain is a Saiyan. Then they decide to air only three movies in particular:
*Broly, the Legendary Super Saiyan - The main villain being a Saiyan.
*Bardock, The Father of Goku - The backstory of the Saiyans, including Freeza.
*Fusion Reborn - showcasing and highlighting Gogeta. This may seem like the odd one out, but isn't for this reason: the recent Dragon Ball Heroes anime. It features a SSB Vegetto going up against an evil Saiyan.

The clues were there this whole time. Unless they have something else up their sleeve (they likely will), they've basically just given away the main plot points of this new movie by taking from other movies and media outside the main continuity of Toriyama (hell, the new Broly even has a transformation that's SS4-like with LSS in it too).

So really, the debate that opens up from this will be: are we gonna get Vegetto or Gogeta in this new movie? Or maybe something else?

Personally, I'm not gonna overreact to this one. We've survived the Dragon Ball Super anime, so I think we'll be fine.
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Re: Official "DB Super 2018 Movie" Discussion Thread

Post by BrolyKale » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:27 pm

BlueBasilisk wrote:
BrolyKale wrote:Broly does have a personality in the first movie, watch it again when he tranforms into the LSSJ.
I think people forget what he was really like in the first movie. Once he breaks out of Paragus' control, he has quite a bit of dialogue and very little of it is "Kakarot." Or if you've ever played Xenoverse 2, he's the same way there.
Yeah people tend to confuse movie 8 Broly and movie 10 Broly... its like they have never watched the movies or just watched some parts or TFS or idk what else.
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Re: Official "DB Super 2018 Movie" Discussion Thread

Post by Cetra » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:27 pm

Basaku wrote:
BrolyKale wrote:
Basaku wrote:Because the creator of the movie totally ain't completly biased lol...
Hmmm... he created the character so he knows exactly what he is talking about and what he wanted to do with the character. You are just hating for no reason.
There's a big difference between what he (or any other creator/director) 'wanted' to do and what he actually did. None of that is even in the movie, if that's what the director/creator wanted to convey in the character then he should've, you know... do it? You're defending something that doesn't exist, so spare me the "haters just hating" no-argument.
Well, you are repeating all the time he has no personality when he actually has personality traits and continously shows them.
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Re: Official "DB Super 2018 Movie" Discussion Thread

Post by Cetra » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:28 pm

jeffbr92 wrote:
Cetra wrote:I hope Broly is using Caulifla as a sleigh in this movie.
Fixed for ya, buddy.
With this "fix" there is so much sexual ambiguity behind that quote.
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Post by Alruneia » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:29 pm

BlueBasilisk wrote:
BrolyKale wrote:Broly does have a personality in the first movie, watch it again when he tranforms into the LSSJ.
I think people forget what he was really like in the first movie. Once he breaks out of Paragus' control, he has quite a bit of dialogue and very little of it is "Kakarot." Or if you've ever played Xenoverse 2, he's the same way there.
Absolutely. There wouldn't be any Broly MADs if there were no lines of Broly dialogue to edit, after all! Seriously, though, it's a shame that Broly's been reduced to Flanderised Kakarot-Screaming Man after that first movie.
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Post by xpNc » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:29 pm

BROLY IS CANON BAY-BEEEEEEEEE

Incredible announcement. Very hyped right now.

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Post by BrolyKale » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:29 pm

Just like Cetra pointed out, Broly from the first movie once he breaks free of his father's control he does have a personality, you can't say he doesn't. He doesn't even keep screaming Kakarotto... so I don't know why you guys say he doesn't have any personality in the first movie when he actually does.
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Post by miguelnuva1 » Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:31 pm

I wouldn't call Broly the worst movie villian when we have Garlic Jr, Wheelo, Android 13 and Bojack running around. Not even saying these guys were bad villians either just that Broly I felt was better.

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