Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[jeffbr92]

Broly's WAY more popular in the west.

Give me your source please, or otherwise I'll think you're just throwing opinions as facts.

I was wondering if maybe he would think of giving Gohan the outfit from the second movie. That fits Gohan so well, and it would be a nod to that movie!

You mean his early Boo arc outfit? Cause you talk like it was a movie only outfit.

I enjoy seeing Vegeta cower before Broly, and I hope we get more of that. Broly might be a mediocre character, but it's completely worth it if it knocks vegetable head down a notch or two.

Nah, seeing someone stomp Vegeta and Freeza is getting tiresome, I want Broly to do that with Caulifla, Kale or maybe Ribrianne (God, I would love his character for that)

Not really since I like Super a lot more than Z. Z storytelling after Namek wasn’t good since it depended too much on the cast being morons.

Funny thing you like Super more than Z despite the fact that FT arc was a rehashed Android arc and ToP arc was just a Champa arc in a larger scale lol

[AnimeNation101]

Broly's WAY more popular in the west.

Give me your source please, or otherwise I'll think you're just throwing opinions as facts.

I was wondering if maybe he would think of giving Gohan the outfit from the second movie. That fits Gohan so well, and it would be a nod to that movie!

You mean his early Boo arc outfit? Cause you talk like it was a movie only outfit.

I enjoy seeing Vegeta cower before Broly, and I hope we get more of that. Broly might be a mediocre character, but it's completely worth it if it knocks vegetable head down a notch or two.

Nah, seeing someone stomp Vegeta and Freeza is getting tiresome, I want Broly to do that with Caulifla, Kale or maybe Ribrianne (God, I would love his character for that)

Not really since I like Super a lot more than Z. Z storytelling after Namek wasn’t good since it depended too much on the cast being morons.

Funny thing you like Super more Z despite the fact that FT arc was a rehashed Android arc and ToP arc was just a Champa arc in a larger scale lol

Let me rephrase my statement. Broly is more popular in the western fanbase than he is in the JP fanbase.

[jeffbr92]

Let me rephrase my statement. Broly is more popular in the western fanbase than he is in the JP fanbase.

Sorry, but that's still sounds like an opinion.

[Raphael_Z]

Do you guys think that we will see SSB kaikoen and Vegeta's powered up SSB form or do you think they will just stick with regular SSB in the movie?

I do hope, if Broly doesn't have God-Ki, which i suppose he doesn't have, they'll give some explaination how he could be off the bat stronger than Blue or even Blue Kaioken x 20, which would make Broly absurdly strong without any divine training.

They never explained how Kale's LSSJ form was that strong in Super's anime/manga, we just have to accept that the LSSJ from in Super is equal as SSB.

MAYBE this movie will retcon the lore of the LSSJ from the non-canon movies and we'll see Toriyama's explanation of why these green haired Saiyans are as strong (even stronger) as the Saiyan Gods.

[ShaggyBlanco]

Broly's WAY more popular in the west.

Give me your source please, or otherwise I'll think you're just throwing opinions as facts.

I was wondering if maybe he would think of giving Gohan the outfit from the second movie. That fits Gohan so well, and it would be a nod to that movie!

You mean his early Boo arc outfit? Cause you talk like it was a movie only outfit.

I enjoy seeing Vegeta cower before Broly, and I hope we get more of that. Broly might be a mediocre character, but it's completely worth it if it knocks vegetable head down a notch or two.

Nah, seeing someone stomp Vegeta and Freeza is getting tiresome, I want Broly to do that with Caulifla, Kale or maybe Ribrianne (God, I would love his character for that)

Not really since I like Super a lot more than Z. Z storytelling after Namek wasn’t good since it depended too much on the cast being morons.

Funny thing you like Super more Z despite the fact that FT arc was a rehashed Android arc and ToP arc was just a Champa arc in a larger scale lol

Let me rephrase my statement. Broly is more popular in the western fanbase than he is in the JP fanbase.

I dunno man, Broly is a meme in Japan
Just search ブロリー on Youtube or NicoNico and look at the type or videos they make of him
https://youtu.be/f-1JnAaU4iI

[Melkaniator]

One thing I'm not quite getting in this discussion is the obsession over whether or not this idea is "original", as if being an original idea has any correlation to the movie being good.

It doesn't, that's why you don't get it.

This movie being good, or bad, has nothing to do with it being unoriginal, some of us are disappointed that it's more of the same, period.

The one thing I dislike about this film so far is the title.

They know their audience.

Indeed, they know whatever they throw at em' they'll receive with a smile.

we just got the announcement of a rebooted Broly... good lord just stop complaining and be grateful.

Yep, this is exactly what I was referring.

Somehow I need to be grateful, regardless of tastes, quality, nah, I didn't asked for this, there's no reason I should be grateful yet.

Y’all don’t even know wtf is going to happen

Yep, clearly you're one of those that don't get it, how many times I need to post that I'm not complaining about the product itself?

Obviously since that haven't released.

I'm complaining about what it's known for the moment.

You’re still going to watch the film regardless.

Indeed, because even if it's awful I get to have fun conversations about it, DBS is such a disappointment that has giving me a lot to complain and laugh at.

then just stop watching DB.. and stop complaining... either be grateful, stop watching it, or hush up. Please.

No.

If it's such a bother for you follow your own advice with my comments, stop reading them.

We can't all just accept whatever because it's Akira, because it's DB, the way I see it, there should be more to that.

[HeroR]

Broly's WAY more popular in the west.

Give me your source please, or otherwise I'll think you're just throwing opinions as facts.

I was wondering if maybe he would think of giving Gohan the outfit from the second movie. That fits Gohan so well, and it would be a nod to that movie!

You mean his early Boo arc outfit? Cause you talk like it was a movie only outfit.

I enjoy seeing Vegeta cower before Broly, and I hope we get more of that. Broly might be a mediocre character, but it's completely worth it if it knocks vegetable head down a notch or two.

Nah, seeing someone stomp Vegeta and Freeza is getting tiresome, I want Broly to do that with Caulifla, Kale or maybe Ribrianne (God, I would love his character for that)

Not really since I like Super a lot more than Z. Z storytelling after Namek wasn’t good since it depended too much on the cast being morons.

Funny thing you like Super more than Z despite the fact that FT arc was a rehashed Android arc and ToP arc was just a Champa arc in a larger scale lol

The only things the Future Trunks Saga had in common with the Androids Saga were Trunks and time travel. Most of the action happened in the future, while the Android Saga was almost all in the present and Cell and Zamasu acted nothing like the androids outside of being vain. And even if I accept it was just a rehash, it was far superior to the arc it rehashed.

As for the TOP, the 22 and 23rd touruments were just rehashes of the 21st tourument by thst logic, and those arc shits on most of Z. It would be even less actually since the TOP at least changed the format unlike the Dragon Ball touruments.

[IndieBooToo]

Who cares? he is still there for fanservice, they could've bring someone else back than Freezer in the TOP if they really wanted to.

They couldn't. He was the man for the role. Him being in the movie makes sense since it literally takes place after ToP.

By your nonsensical logic Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo etc are in the movie for fanservice as well. Broly is just some random addition who wasn't canon until now.

And is it bad that they bring Broly back as a new character? why are you crying? just because its Broly doesn't mean it will be something bad, he will be a completely new character, new personality (Toriyama said he updated him), new story (obviously they can't use the same story otherwise it wouldn't be canon), new motivation.

I was only arguing about your ridiculous comparison with Broly and Frieza.

[jeffbr92]

Funny thing you like Super more than Z despite the fact that FT arc was a rehashed Android arc and ToP arc was just a Champa arc in a larger scale lol

The only things the Future Trunks Saga had in common with the Androids Saga were Trunks and time travel. Most of the action happened in the future, while the Android Saga was almost all in the present and Cell and Zamasu acted nothing like the androids outside of being vain. And even if I accept it was just a rehash, it was far superior to the arc it rehashed.

As for the TOP, the 22 and 23rd touruments were just rehashes of the 21st tourument by thst logic, and those arc shits on most of Z. It would be even less actually since the TOP at least changed the format unlike the Dragon Ball touruments.

No, it also had the mystery surrounding the androids and Cell with the difference they kept that trope longer with Black's identity. Also characters where pretty dumb there with Goku forgetting senzu beans in the bathroom and the tag to complete the Mafuba.

Actually 22 and 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai arcs shits on most ToP on how actually doing a great tournament arc and not just flashy stuff and non stop fighting for getting fan boys wet, Super feels just like a Z parody.

[RedHeat]

Funny thing you like Super more than Z despite the fact that FT arc was a rehashed Android arc and ToP arc was just a Champa arc in a larger scale lol

The only things the Future Trunks Saga had in common with the Androids Saga were Trunks and time travel. Most of the action happened in the future, while the Android Saga was almost all in the present and Cell and Zamasu acted nothing like the androids outside of being vain. And even if I accept it was just a rehash, it was far superior to the arc it rehashed.

As for the TOP, the 22 and 23rd touruments were just rehashes of the 21st tourument by thst logic, and those arc shits on most of Z. It would be even less actually since the TOP at least changed the format unlike the Dragon Ball touruments.

No, it also had the mystery surrounding the androids and Cell with the difference they kept that trope longer with Black's identity. Also characters where pretty dumb there with Goku forgetting senzu beans in the bathroom and the tag to complete the Mafuba.

Actually 22 and 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai arcs shits on most ToP on how actually doing a great tournament arc and not just flashy stuff and non stop fighting for getting fan boys wet, Super feels just like a Z parody.

The latter sounds more entertaining.

[HeroR]

Funny thing you like Super more than Z despite the fact that FT arc was a rehashed Android arc and ToP arc was just a Champa arc in a larger scale lol

The only things the Future Trunks Saga had in common with the Androids Saga were Trunks and time travel. Most of the action happened in the future, while the Android Saga was almost all in the present and Cell and Zamasu acted nothing like the androids outside of being vain. And even if I accept it was just a rehash, it was far superior to the arc it rehashed.

As for the TOP, the 22 and 23rd touruments were just rehashes of the 21st tourument by thst logic, and those arc shits on most of Z. It would be even less actually since the TOP at least changed the format unlike the Dragon Ball touruments.

No, it also had the mystery surrounding the androids and Cell with the difference they kept that trope longer with Black's identity. Also characters where pretty dumb there with Goku forgetting senzu beans in the bathroom and the tag to complete the Mafuba.

Actually 22 and 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai arcs shits on most ToP on how actually doing a great tournament arc and not just flashy stuff and non stop fighting for getting fan boys wet, Super feels just like a Z parody.

The mystery with Cell was so short lived that it’s almost laughable, especially how willing Cell told his life story. Compared to who Black was being the primary driving force for the Future Trunks Saga for about 3/4 of the story. And none of the stupid in the Future Trunks Saga can ever compared to BS that went into Cell becoming perfect.

So two of the best sagas in Dragon Ball is better than TOP. Not really an insult, especially when you tried to dismissed the TOP as just a bigger Champa Saga.

To me, the later parts of Z became a parody of itself with the Cell Saga being the lowest point.

[dragon boss z]

Do you guys think that we will see SSB kaikoen and Vegeta's powered up SSB form or do you think they will just stick with regular SSB in the movie?

I do hope, if Broly doesn't have God-Ki, which i suppose he doesn't have, they'll give some explaination how he could be off the bat stronger than Blue or even Blue Kaioken x 20, which would make Broly absurdly strong without any divine training.

I definitely think Broly will be at least blue tier in the movie, I meant more in the sense that Blue kaioken and beyond Blue forms were anime original and not from Toriyama, so I'm wondering if they will write those in the movie or leave them out.

[TheShadowEmperor8055]

Well... this explains why the original Broly movie would be appearing in American theatres in September.

Yup, as I said here, everything Toei is doing thus far is for a reason:

They said the movie would be about the Saiyans, their history, would include Freeza and the main villain is a Saiyan. Then they decide to air only three movies in particular:
*Broly, the Legendary Super Saiyan - The main villain being a Saiyan.
*Bardock, The Father of Goku - The backstory of the Saiyans, including Freeza.
*Fusion Reborn - showcasing and highlighting Gogeta. This may seem like the odd one out, but isn't for this reason: the recent Dragon Ball Heroes anime. It features a SSB Vegetto going up against an evil Saiyan.

The clues were there this whole time. Unless they have something else up their sleeve (they likely will), they've basically just given away the main plot points of this new movie by taking from other movies and media outside the main continuity of Toriyama (hell, the new Broly even has a transformation that's SS4-like with LSS in it too).

So really, the debate that opens up from this will be: are we gonna get Vegetto or Gogeta in this new movie? Or maybe something else?

Personally, I'm not gonna overreact to this one. We've survived the Dragon Ball Super anime, so I think we'll be fine.

Could Ultra Instinct or SSGSSE appear in this film? Find out next time on Dragon Ball Super!

Jokes aside, DB has been reusing content and storylines since GT, perhaps earlier than that. If I've learned anything from Dragon Ball Super, it's that we'll initially be underwhelmed with a lot of things, and then get over it.

Not gonna lie. I had your theory way before this was announced. Everyone said i was wrong. Then, today Terez pinned me. So many folks were salty: https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/8 ... ts_of_the/

Bottom line, i think Gogeta and Bardock as HIGHELY LIKELY

Shit, this just came to me: there was also "Broly God", wasn't there? SSB Goku couldn't handle him and thus he had to do a Fusion Dance with the audience to finish Broly off... man, they've had this planned for a while. I'm personally conflicted between SSB Vegetto and SSB Gogeta finishing the deal, if Goku and Vegeta decide to fuse...

[PsionicWarrior]

Super feels just like a Z parody.

It does at times lol

[Melkaniator]

Youre being intellectually dishonest

Says the person is looking for excuse like ignoring I'm talking about recycling characters, and using Beerus job as an excuse to pass him as a villain.

If Dragon Ball super is back, I have the feeling that in the first episodes we are going to have the same story as this movie being retold like what happened with Battle of the Gods and Resurrection of F.

I wouldn't be surprised, Toei knows that anything DB will be accepted by most regardless.

And some are too late with the complaints of unoriginality and future of DB. They should have reacted the same to Super saiyan Cyan and GOLD frieza, i still hate these two "transformation s" to this day.

Me too, my opinion on those haven't changed since day 1, I have a friend that did abandoned DB after RoF.

I tried to tell him to watch it anyway, just to laughter at it, it's not like we're supporting it anyway.

But, everytime he sees the blue hair, or hear someone speaking about it, he's like "nah thanks".

Overused and recycled, that's more the issue with me.

Not really. It's the first time Broly is in the canon story.

Overused and recycled, canon is irrelevant in this matter.

This is Broly's 4th movie, that is his 1st canon one doesn't change that.

I was wondering if maybe he would think of giving Gohan the outfit from the second movie. That fits Gohan so well, and it would be a nod to that movie!

Gohan has that outfit in the manga right now.

Incorrect, that's not the same one.

Gohan is using Piccolo's right now, same he used while fighting Cell.

[Omniboy]

I never felt so conflicted about anything in this series. I keep going back from " You know what? This is completely fine," to "This is actually truly perfect," to "what the fuck were they thinking, this is so dumb?" And it all happens so fast... Seriously...

[Melkaniator]

The bad animation wasn’t because of a lack of care. It was a lack of time.

They didn't care to make this when things were ready, they should've prepared everything before doing this.

To deliver that, they should've stick with movies instead.

Nah, you, and everyone else, may like it as much as you want.

Still, my opinion on sheep will never change because that's what I see on DBS defenders.

Also, clarification, not everyone that like it is a defender.

This new Broly is a completely new character

He is not a new character, if you like to dance around the truth, so be it, I'm not falling for it.

Freezer in the movie, but people don't say anything about him being in the movie.

Maybe because Frieza was literally in the last arc and got revived

Who cares? he is still there for fanservice, they could've bring someone else back than Freezer in the TOP if they really wanted to.

#1) The movie is still not his.

#2) They couldn't have brought anyone else if they wanted to win, Frieza was the most powerful warrior available.

I definitely think Broly will be at least blue tier in the movie, I meant more in the sense that Blue kaioken and beyond Blue forms were anime original and not from Toriyama, so I'm wondering if they will write those in the movie or leave them out.

We'll, while I'm not sure SSBE is from TOEI (I bet it is, it felt that way) Toei is still in this, and they will deal with the action in the movie most likely.

[Miracles]

Right. In terms of the main continuity it hasn't been used at all so it can't possibly be overused.

The cheap knock-off Kale couldn't get the job done, got to bring in the original.

[Overused and recycled, canon is irrelevant in this matter.

This is Broly's 4th movie, that is his 1st canon one doesn't change that.

That's the point of something great. You want it more and more. Broly demands encore.

[CJStriker_CBR]

Nah, seeing someone stomp Vegeta and Freeza is getting tiresome, I want Broly to do that with Caulifla, Kale or maybe Ribrianne (God, I would love his character for that)

Truly, Reverse that Thought Right their, I would LOVE to see the Girls(Kale, Caulifla & Ribrianne, along with others like Kakunsa & Rozie) Be Special Guess in the Movie and Help Bring Down some Pain on Broly and help with the Fighting!

Bring out this New Generation of DB Ladies Warriors, that Make the Movie worth it!

[supersaiyanZero]

The bad animation wasn’t because of a lack of care. It was a lack of time.

They didn't care to make this when things were ready, they should've prepared everything before doing this.

You know, I never got this point presented by those who defended the animation in Super. Saying "b-but the production schedule!" is just another excuse for the piss poor animation (and even stills). Like, Toei couldn't have been bothered to give a fuck about the franchise's revival enough to give the team a proper production schedule and people act like this is ok?