Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[Dragono]

If you were in charge your #1 priority would be to bring in as much $$$ as possible and Broly, love him or hate him, brings in $$$. I'm not going to say DB is just a cash cow with 0 passion but it is a business and businesses are required to bring in $$$. Look at comics, they've been doing the same things with little to nothing new for the past 80 years so at least DB is still doing new things alongside the old.

He could've easily turned him down but he didn't and his message clearly shows he has ideas worth exploring. The "legendary Ssj" concept has a lot of potential and I think we should be happy to see it being revisited instead of it being left behind because of those 3 "movies".

No, that wouldn't be my priority. I don't care about money that much, if I was in a creative industry it would be for the sake of being creative because I'm passionate about such things.

If you didn't care about $$$ then you wouldn't be in such an industry to begin with. I think if Toriyama wasn't passionate about what he's doing he wouldn't be doing it but it's a business so $$$ has to factor in it as well.

My friend, that is the best thing i have heard in the last 12 hours.

[emperior]

Toriyama is rearranging some elements from the Broly movies. My idea is that he will keep:

- Broly being the Legendary Super Saiyan
- Paragus being his father
- Stabbed as a newborn as he is considered a threat
- Him escaping the Planet’s destruction (with the pod in the poster)
- Getting frozen for years

The movie will also connect with the history of the Saiyans, so I believe that this Broly was an ancient Saiyan from Sadala and probably the one who caused the destruction of the Planet. He was able to escape, but he ended up on the icey Planet where he got frozen for years. Maybe it will be the Freeza army which will discover Broly’s hibernated body.

[Mister_Popo]

Since they decided to bring Broly to the main story due to his popularity, they may as well go further beyond and give him a "SSJ4" form as his strongest form.
This Broly will have a tail.

Honestly there's nothing stopping them now and seems like a good opportunity to do it.

We're getting Broly and possibly Bardock and Gogeta so ssj4 on top of all that would be overkill. I think it's best to save it for another story.

There has to be some reason Broly can compete with forms like Blue, Blue Kaioken. I could understand why Legendary SSJ isn't enough, so he 'll have to combine forms.
Why no combination with SSJ4 and/or Oozaru? A combination between Legendary SSJ and SSJ4 may be able to compete with Blue. That would be feasible.

I'd prefer that explaination than a Legendary SSJ-form that's, without God-Ki, on pair with Blue on its own.

[BrolyKale]

Toriyama is rearranging some elements from the Broly movies. My idea is that he will keep:

- Broly being the Legendary Super Saiyan
- Paragus being his father
- Stabbed as a newborn as he is considered a threat
- Him escaping the Planet’s destruction (with the pod in the poster)
- Getting frozen for years

The movie will also connect with the history of the Saiyans, so I believe that this Broly was an ancient Saiyan from Sadala and probably the one who caused the destruction of the Planet. He was able to escape, but he ended up on the icey Planet where he got frozen for years. Maybe it will be the Freeza army which will discover Broly’s hibernated body.

I really like Broly's past tbh I hope Toriyama won't change much about his past, but his motivation can be fixed of course.

[sintzu]

If you didn't care about $$$ then you wouldn't be in such an industry to begin with. I think if Toriyama wasn't passionate about what he's doing he wouldn't be doing it but it's a business so $$$ has to factor in it as well.

No, that's ridiculous. There are plenty of reasons to get in creative industries beyond money. I didn't say I don't care about money at all, but it's not my main priority, and neither is making the most money possible.

Stop telling people what they'd do or what their priorities are.

Dragon ball is part of a multi million $ industry which means making the most $ is a priority. That's not an opinion, it's how things work in that kind of business. What you're talking about is mostly indi and small creator projects, not a worldwide franchise with countless companies and countries involved.

[BrolyKale]

They don't need Broly to make money, if there's Dragon Ball in the title that's enough, people will watch anything even if its bad. So if Toriyama accepted Broly its because he saw something in the character and decided to work on him.

[sintzu]

My friend, that is the best thing i have heard in the last 12 hours.

Thanks.

If you asked me a week ago what I'd want from this movie, Broly wouldn't be in the top 20. If you told me it would revolve around Broly I'd say everyone running Db have lost their minds.

However, after seeing the poster and after reading what Toriyama said, I think this movie has the potential to not just be the best but also open the door for countless possibilities we thought would never happen. I just wish fans would give it a chance before ripping it apart.

[FortuneSSJ]

Since they decided to bring Broly to the main story due to his popularity, they may as well go further beyond and give him a "SSJ4" form as his strongest form.
This Broly will have a tail.

Honestly there's nothing stopping them now and seems like a good opportunity to do it.

We're getting Broly and possibly Bardock and Gogeta so ssj4 on top of all that would be overkill. I think it's best to save it for another story.

Maybe, but he's rebooting Broly. He has a tail and the movie will be about the Saiyans history. Broly having a primitive looking form like SSJ4 that's more in line with the Saiyan lore would be fitting.

This is how the poster looks to me anyway:
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[sintzu]

This is how the poster looks to me anyway:
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All that's missing are $$ signs in Broly's eyes.

[precita]

Isn't Paragus a popular meme in Japan? I'd be surprised if Paragus isn't brought over too. If he's ignored it makes a little less sense where Broly has been all this time.

[XanatosVanBadass]

I definitely like the idea of connecting the lore of the LSSJ and the SSG. Perhaps Broly and Yamoshi were mortal enemies in the past? This would also finally give Vegeta an excuse to visit planet Sadal.

As much as people are getting salty and butthurt about “rehashing” this opens up potential for a plethora of new lore. Which is worth it IMHO.

[Alruneia]

Isn't Paragus a popular meme in Japan? I'd be surprised if Paragus isn't brought over too. If he's ignored it makes a little less sense where Broly has been all this time.

Paragus has a huge role in Broly MADs overall. Almost as huge as Broly himself, even. So he's definitely a popular meme in the category, to put it that way.

[BlueBasilisk]

You know what I want to see? Broly joining the Goku Gang or becoming a frienemy. Don't pull a Resurrection F and bring a character only to kill him off again with no lasting impact. Come to think of it, most of Super's antagonists have stuck around and either become allies or less antagonistic. Black and Zamasu are the only ones who actually died and even Frieza came back in the end.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

You know what I want to see? Broly joining the Goku Gang or becoming a frienemy. Don't pull a Resurrection F and bring a character only to kill him off again with no lasting impact. Come to think of it, most of Super's antagonists have stuck around and either become allies or less antagonistic. Black and Zamasu are the only ones who actually died and even Frieza came back in the end.

As long lore is opened unlike ResF I'm okay with him dying. I'd actually prefer it if Broly is a tragic villain. One we feel sorry for but know he has to die. If they make us feel sorry for him job accomplished.

[omaro34]

Same ol Goku and Vegeta fighting an unoriginal villain.

I'm gonna watch the movie but I'm not excited

[BrolyKale]

Do you guys think that an original character is always going to be good? nope. They can also make something new and original about this Broly.

[Grimlock]

Same ol Goku and Vegeta fighting an unoriginal villain.

Anything other than that would be expecting/asking way too much.

[BrolyKale]

You know what I want to see? Broly joining the Goku Gang or becoming a frienemy. Don't pull a Resurrection F and bring a character only to kill him off again with no lasting impact. Come to think of it, most of Super's antagonists have stuck around and either become allies or less antagonistic. Black and Zamasu are the only ones who actually died and even Frieza came back in the end.

As long lore is opened unlike ResF I'm okay with him dying. I'd actually prefer it if Broly is a tragic villain. One we feel sorry for but know he has to die. If they make us feel sorry for him job accomplished.

Kinda like Zamasu or the first Broly movie?

[BlueBasilisk]

Do you guys think that an original character is always going to be good? nope. They can also make something new and original about this Broly.

I seem to recall a lot of hating on Jiren and Toppo round these parts.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

You know what I want to see? Broly joining the Goku Gang or becoming a frienemy. Don't pull a Resurrection F and bring a character only to kill him off again with no lasting impact. Come to think of it, most of Super's antagonists have stuck around and either become allies or less antagonistic. Black and Zamasu are the only ones who actually died and even Frieza came back in the end.

As long lore is opened unlike ResF I'm okay with him dying. I'd actually prefer it if Broly is a tragic villain. One we feel sorry for but know he has to die. If they make us feel sorry for him job accomplished.

Kinda like Zamasu or the first Broly movie?

Kinda like Zamasu yeah they made is understand why he is doing what he was doing even if he still was a prick, M8 Broly though they failed to execute in making us care for Broly at all, the theme of him being overwhelmed by power was interesting on paper but they never went anywhere with it and in the second half he became a Hulk that we needed to beat and that was it.

Toriyama's comments do make me reassured he can do this right if there is anyone who can it is him. It's weird I have been anti-Toriyama the last couple of months but I'm actually cautiously optimistic about this, probably because M8 was one of the better Z movies so Toriyama reworking that into DBS world could turn out great.

I also am very intrigued about the destiny tidbit, for Goku, Vegeta & Broly. Hoping Goku's destiny is something to do with Yamoshi.