Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

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Post by Mister_Popo » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:16 pm

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Mister_Popo wrote:If this movie becomes a hit, which it will, if the public screams for more Broly, if the Broly-merchandise sells massively, i see him return in a later movie of when the series resume. Defintely.
As a big fan of Broly, I hope they will do something interesting with this character and develop him more and more. Because if Broly works well then they should at least do something interesting with him.
I want to give the newly designed character all chances and this could actually become a great movie. But if they would pull off 'Brolys revenge' in 2019 or 2020, i think i'll be re-reading my original DB-manga in stead. That wouldn't be creative anymore, that would be over the top.

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Mister_Popo wrote:If this movie becomes a hit, which it will, if the public screams for more Broly, if the Broly-merchandise sells massively, i see him return in a later movie of when the series resume. Defintely.
As a big fan of Broly, I hope they will do something interesting with this character and develop him more and more. Because if Broly works well then they should at least do something interesting with him.
I want to give the newly designed character all chances and this could actually become a great movie. But if they would pull off 'Brolys revenge' in 2019 or 2020, i think i'll be re-reading my original DB-manga in stead. That wouldn't be creative anymore, that would be over the top.
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Post by jeffbr92 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 2:53 pm

I hope they make LSSJ Broly hair color GOLD like his original design as I always despised the GREEN hair presented in nowadays stuff
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Post by dbgtFO » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:04 pm

jeffbr92 wrote:I hope they make LSSJ Broly hair color GOLD like his original design as I always despised the GREEN hair presented in nowadays stuff
Yeah, unfortunately the green is too iconic for them to change now.
I too always hated the green and whoever was in charge of the colors department in the first movie didn't have that as the only oddity. Broly with purple hair, SS Broly with blueish hair and at the end Goku also had a greenish tint to his hair.

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Post by Marlowe89 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:15 pm

Conversely, I always liked the green. I'd like to see them put a unique spin on the design nonetheless.

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Post by ABED » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:28 pm

There's an article on comicbook.com saying this film will delve into unexplored areas of DB lore. Their example being "what happened to the Saiyan babies who were sent out to destroy planets." For the most part, it was explored. The babies grew up and destroyed a world, others from Freeza's empire came and mopped up and got it ready for sale. It was stated that the only ones off planet Vegeta at the time were the four that survived. This is not unexplored territory.
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Post by BlueBasilisk » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:54 pm

ABED wrote:There's an article on comicbook.com saying this film will delve into unexplored areas of DB lore. Their example being "what happened to the Saiyan babies who were sent out to destroy planets." For the most part, it was explored. The babies grew up and destroyed a world, others from Freeza's empire came and mopped up and got it ready for sale. It was stated that the only ones off planet Vegeta at the time were the four that survived. This is not unexplored territory.
Frieza's conversation with the Kikono-looking guy in Minus left the door open for a few more stragglers here and there, I think. Frieza asks him how long it'll take to recall all the Saiyans to Vegeta and he's told a month for the majority, longer for every single one. Frieza doesn't want to wait that long and executes at one month. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the route they take with this story.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by precita » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:54 pm

Makes me sick to my stomach to see only Goku and Vegeta on the poster, I don't want Super when it returns to go back to the Goku and Vegeta show. Gohan was built up into a fighter again, we know Piccolo is in the movie, but it's bizarre to see everyone else go to the wayside again.

When the hell are Trunks and Goten going to get some focus. They were in a Broly movie!

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Post by AnimeNation101 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 4:59 pm

Broly needs to become good but sacrifice himself in the end. That seems to be the best option. That was he can’t comeback as a villain, it would show true character development for him (which we’re all hungry for), and it will add a twist to the movie instead of keeping on the “big bad gets defeated by Goku” track.
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie. 8)

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Post by AnimeNation101 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:01 pm

precita wrote:Makes me sick to my stomach to see only Goku and Vegeta on the poster, I don't want Super when it returns to go back to the Goku and Vegeta show. Gohan was built up into a fighter again, we know Piccolo is in the movie, but it's bizarre to see everyone else go to the wayside again.

When the hell are Trunks and Goten going to get some focus. They were in a Broly movie!
I bet you’re annoyed that Toriyama was talking about the fate of Goku, Vegeta, and Broly crossing and no one else was named. And if we don’t get some winter costumes for Trunks, Goten, or Gohan, they’ll most likely not be important. The fact that Broly is in this movie raises the U6 trio’s chances of coming back into prominence too.
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie. 8)

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Post by BlueBasilisk » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:04 pm

AnimeNation101 wrote:Broly needs to become good but sacrifice himself in the end. That seems to be the best option. That was he can’t comeback as a villain, it would show true character development for him (which we’re all hungry for), and it will add a twist to the movie instead of keeping on the “big bad gets defeated by Goku” track.
I disagree on this, it feels like a waste of a 'new' character when they pull this stuff. FighterZ left a sour taste in my mouth when they did it with 21 even though I saw it coming 10 miles away.

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Post by AnimeNation101 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:16 pm

BlueBasilisk wrote:
AnimeNation101 wrote:Broly needs to become good but sacrifice himself in the end. That seems to be the best option. That was he can’t comeback as a villain, it would show true character development for him (which we’re all hungry for), and it will add a twist to the movie instead of keeping on the “big bad gets defeated by Goku” track.
I disagree on this, it feels like a waste of a 'new' character when they pull this stuff. FighterZ left a sour taste in my mouth when they did it with 21 even though I saw it coming 10 miles away.
You rather have him become part of the main cast or just die a villain with the risk of being brought back for MARKETING?
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie. 8)

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Post by WittyUsername » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:22 pm

As overused as the term may be, the idea of Broly becoming a good guy sounds like something you’d read from a fanfic. I suppose that wouldn’t be as jarring as Freeza becoming a good guy (which thankfully hasn’t happened yet), but it would still come across as pandering to me.

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BlueBasilisk wrote:
ABED wrote:There's an article on comicbook.com saying this film will delve into unexplored areas of DB lore. Their example being "what happened to the Saiyan babies who were sent out to destroy planets." For the most part, it was explored. The babies grew up and destroyed a world, others from Freeza's empire came and mopped up and got it ready for sale. It was stated that the only ones off planet Vegeta at the time were the four that survived. This is not unexplored territory.
Frieza's conversation with the Kikono-looking guy in Minus left the door open for a few more stragglers here and there, I think. Frieza asks him how long it'll take to recall all the Saiyans to Vegeta and he's told a month for the majority, longer for every single one. Frieza doesn't want to wait that long and executes at one month. I wouldn't be surprised if that's the route they take with this story.
There might be more Saiyans, but it's hardly unexplored territory as to what happened to Saiyan babies.
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Post by jeffbr92 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:33 pm

dbgtFO wrote:Yeah, unfortunately the green is too iconic for them to change now.
I too always hated the green and whoever was in charge of the colors department in the first movie didn't have that as the only oddity. Broly with purple hair, SS Broly with blueish hair and at the end Goku also had a greenish tint to his hair.
But for who? Even on Broly last appearance on M11 he had gold hair, merchadising stuff who came up with this green hair out of nowhere
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Post by BlueBasilisk » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:35 pm

AnimeNation101 wrote:
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AnimeNation101 wrote:Broly needs to become good but sacrifice himself in the end. That seems to be the best option. That was he can’t comeback as a villain, it would show true character development for him (which we’re all hungry for), and it will add a twist to the movie instead of keeping on the “big bad gets defeated by Goku” track.
I disagree on this, it feels like a waste of a 'new' character when they pull this stuff. FighterZ left a sour taste in my mouth when they did it with 21 even though I saw it coming 10 miles away.
You rather have him become part of the main cast or just die a villain with the risk of being brought back for MARKETING?
I'd rather them do something unexpected or unusual than take the same old approach. Until Beerus, all the movie characters were killed or written out because they weren't in continuity, even a heroic character like Tapion. Killing him off wouldn't prevent him from coming back for marketing reasons if that's what they wanted to do (Frieza being a perfect example of this). So given the option, I would rather see him stick around and something different be done with his character since that's never happened before. There are a lot of possibilities there without him being 100% hero or villain.
ABED wrote:There might be more Saiyans, but it's hardly unexplored territory as to what happened to Saiyan babies.
That is true. It's Goku's backstory so there's not exactly a lot of mystery there.

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Post by AnimeNation101 » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:46 pm

jeffbr92 wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:Yeah, unfortunately the green is too iconic for them to change now.
I too always hated the green and whoever was in charge of the colors department in the first movie didn't have that as the only oddity. Broly with purple hair, SS Broly with blueish hair and at the end Goku also had a greenish tint to his hair.
But for who? Even on Broly last appearance on M11 he had gold hair, merchadising stuff who came up with this green hair out of nowhere
I think its safe to say that however Kale looked, Broly’s gonna share the same look.
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BlueBasilisk wrote: I disagree on this, it feels like a waste of a 'new' character when they pull this stuff. FighterZ left a sour taste in my mouth when they did it with 21 even though I saw it coming 10 miles away.
I too, hope something different happens with Broly’s character. But as a bonus, your opinion of wanting Broly to stick around does end up changing the status quo of the series and would end up making and impact. And thats what I’ve always wanted from Super which is also why i hope 17’s wish really did bring back universes 13 to 18 or the T.o.P would have been for nothing.
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie. 8)

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Post by Dragono » Wed Jul 11, 2018 5:49 pm

precita wrote:Makes me sick to my stomach to see only Goku and Vegeta on the poster, I don't want Super when it returns to go back to the Goku and Vegeta show. Gohan was built up into a fighter again, we know Piccolo is in the movie, but it's bizarre to see everyone else go to the wayside again.

When the hell are Trunks and Goten going to get some focus. They were in a Broly movie!
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Post by BlueBasilisk » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:00 pm

AnimeNation101 wrote:I too, hope something different happens with Broly’s character. But as a bonus, your opinion of wanting Broly to stick around does end up changing the status quo of the series and would end up making and impact. And thats what I’ve always wanted from Super which is also why i hope 17’s wish really did bring back universes 13 to 18 or the T.o.P would have been for nothing.
That's what I want most of all. The status quo of the series to be changed in some meaningful way. One of my biggest criticisms of Resurrection F was that it did not do this until the ToP came in with the redemption play on that story. The only change to the status quo it introduced was Super Saiyan Blue and that happened independently of Frieza's return, so once he was dead we were just back where we started.

I think this movie will also show whether anything interesting is going to happen with Frieza's character now that he's back or if he's just going to go back to the same old habits and the same old writing.

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Post by precita » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:20 pm

Freeza becoming a good guy would be the biggest jump the shark moment in Dragonball history and I'd disown any future saga that has that happen. Thankfully it's probably not going to happen.

I hope Freeza isn't in this movie. The thought of Freeza joining forces with Goku and Vegeta to fight Broly makes me sick...I may actually vomit.

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