Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by PFM18 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:13 pm

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sunsetshimmer wrote:This trailer looks awful honestly. Teaser looked pretty good but this is just bad.
Some frames look like Golden Frieza arc in Super.

This is gonna be Metal Cooler of DBS, movie that looks worse than anime series lmao.



........do you like anything other than GT and maybe some of Z or are you just here to crap on Super?
Exactly. He only likes the trash that is GT and he just goes to the Super subforum to whine about it.

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Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:14 pm

I'm even more weirded out by the mixed message being sent by the movie now. The animation team comes off as really passionate about giving DB something fresh but the narrative oozes a blatant movie 8 retread out of every pore. What exactly is the big difference between this screaming rage machine from Toriyama and Koyama's from 20 years prior besides a worse fashion sense?
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Post by Lord Beerus » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:17 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:I'm even more weirded out by the mixed message being sent by the movie now. The animation team comes off as really passionate about giving DB something fresh but the narrative oozes a blatant movie 8 retread out of every pore. What exactly is the big difference between this screaming rage machine from Toriyama and Koyama's from 20 years prior besides a worse fashion sense?
The jury is still out. There could be much more to what the trailer gives off.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by sunsetshimmer » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:17 pm

Champa The Destroyer wrote:
sunsetshimmer wrote:This trailer looks awful honestly. Teaser looked pretty good but this is just bad.
Some frames look like Golden Frieza arc in Super.

This is gonna be Metal Cooler of DBS, movie that looks worse than anime series lmao.



........do you like anything other than GT and maybe some of Z or are you just here to crap on Super?
Read my post again and stop wasting my time with questions you could answer yourself if you spent 5 seconds to read my post instead of getting triggered like a kid.
And the thing that you even mention GT and think that i don't like anything else beside it (lmao) prove that you are typical "Yes to DBS, no to GT" type of "fan".
This is DBS related topic. Don't bring up GT and say some fake bs like i was here hating Super because i like GT and it means i have to hate Super.
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He's just a GT fanboy he doesnt care about any kind of new db products.
Ok ok. DBS fanboy :lol:
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Post by Champa The Destroyer » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:18 pm

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Champa The Destroyer wrote:
sunsetshimmer wrote:This trailer looks awful honestly. Teaser looked pretty good but this is just bad.
Some frames look like Golden Frieza arc in Super.

This is gonna be Metal Cooler of DBS, movie that looks worse than anime series lmao.



........do you like anything other than GT and maybe some of Z or are you just here to crap on Super?
Exactly. He only likes the trash that is GT and he just goes to the Super subforum to whine about it.


I mean I actually like GT and it's completely fine if they do too but I don't think I've seen one of their posts thats not crapping on Super, praising GT, or both, and it's getting old. And people get mad at SupremeKai25 or only talking about the Zamasu Arc. :crazy:

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Lord Frieza » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:20 pm

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ekrolo2 wrote:I'm even more weirded out by the mixed message being sent by the movie now. The animation team comes off as really passionate about giving DB something fresh but the narrative oozes a blatant movie 8 retread out of every pore. What exactly is the big difference between this screaming rage machine from Toriyama and Koyama's from 20 years prior besides a worse fashion sense?
The jury is still out. There could be much more to what the trailer gives off.
Pretty much, he's still going to be like his past incarnations but with additions and tweaks to his character.

But also lets not forget that you cannot tell a character from a trailer. I could not have told you Beerus was going to be so cool and not another jerk looking for a fight with Goku from just the trailers.

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Post by King Jacku » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:21 pm

TheShadowEmperor8055 wrote:Anyway, for those wanting the rest of the cast to be featured, let's be real: they'd all get crushed by Broly. The most they could realistically do is fight Freeza's army again (which wouldn't be anything new, I get it). If y'all aren't satisfied with that, then tell me, what would you want from the rest of the cast that isn't Goku or Vegeta? Slice of life? Cheering Goku and Vegeta on? Because I can't think of anything else.

This isn't to imply that I myself want the rest of the cast to be kept out, I like involvement from everyone as much as the next guy. But fighting Freeza's army again is literally the most I can see them doing.
How about versing a powered up Paragus? It'd be kinda interesting to see Paragus fight for once and to differentiate him from the original one. Or how about Broly's soldiers? I'm assuming they're Saiyans, so it'd be pretty easy to make them strong. I also wouldn't mind them versing the Freeza force again. It's better than nothing. You could just say Freeza trained his goons this time.

IMO, there were ways to easily include the Z fighters into this. It just depended if they wanted to or not.

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Post by Zelvin » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:21 pm

Toriyama isn't retreading the old movie, but he is going to homage it. This is purely Toriyama at work and, more than likely, has other writers and staff to help keep him on point and to fit it nicely into the lore and canon.

My one hope for this movie is that Broly isn't murdered off by the end. That he doesn't just become a lackey. But he ends ups as a Neutral figure. To be the unscalable wall, pushing Goku and Vegeta to ever greater heights. To be the Legend that Freeza fears and what all Saiyans aspire to. Broly is Saiyan nature concentrated into its purest form.
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Post by theTUN » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:22 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote:This trailer looks awful honestly. Teaser looked pretty good but this is just bad.
Some frames look like Golden Frieza arc in Super.

This is gonna be Metal Cooler of DBS, movie that looks worse than anime series lmao.
Wow, some individual frames looked bad entirely outside the context of the scenes they were in? Too bad this is a slide show and not an animated movie, otherwise that wouldn't be a problem!

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Post by BrolyKale » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:23 pm

Looks like its Bardock and Goku
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+ the planet looks the same
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Post by Lord Frieza » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:23 pm

Zelvin wrote:Toriyama isn't retreading the old movie, but he is going to homage it. This is purely Toriyama at work and, more than likely, has other writers and staff to help keep him on point and to fit it nicely into the lore and canon.

My one hope for this movie is that Broly isn't murdered off by the end. That he doesn't just become a lackey. But he ends ups as a Neutral figure. To be the unscalable wall, pushing Goku and Vegeta to ever greater heights. To be the Legend that Freeza fears and what all Saiyans aspire to. Broly is Saiyan nature concentrated into its purest form.
That scene with the space pod and Paragus reminds me a lot of the scene from Bio-Broly where that priest guy got some of his blood.

Edit: If he's a clone he can die and still come back. Great advantage of cloning.
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Post by sunsetshimmer » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:24 pm

Champa The Destroyer wrote: I mean I actually like GT and it's completely fine if they do too but I don't think I've seen one of their posts thats not crapping on Super, praising GT, or both, and it's getting old. And people get mad at SupremeKai25 or only talking about the Zamasu Arc. :crazy:
Did you just compare me to THAT person? Come on.
I watched all series. I can have my opinion and i can give you arguments why i like one thing and don't like the other.
You don't have to agree with them of course. But i have every right to share my opinion and honestly the only fanboys right now are people who get triggered because i didn't like this trailer. No one has ever said it's "Praise DBS movie" topic. I didn't even mention GT here. You are the ones who brought it.
But please, don't compare me to people who pretend they have opinion. That's not fair.
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Post by TheShadowEmperor8055 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:25 pm

King Jacku wrote:
TheShadowEmperor8055 wrote:Anyway, for those wanting the rest of the cast to be featured, let's be real: they'd all get crushed by Broly. The most they could realistically do is fight Freeza's army again (which wouldn't be anything new, I get it). If y'all aren't satisfied with that, then tell me, what would you want from the rest of the cast that isn't Goku or Vegeta? Slice of life? Cheering Goku and Vegeta on? Because I can't think of anything else.

This isn't to imply that I myself want the rest of the cast to be kept out, I like involvement from everyone as much as the next guy. But fighting Freeza's army again is literally the most I can see them doing.
How about versing a powered up Paragus? It'd be kinda interesting to see Paragus fight for once and to differentiate him from the original one. Or how about Broly's soldiers? I'm assuming they're Saiyans, so it'd be pretty easy to make them strong. I also wouldn't mind them versing the Freeza force again. It's better than nothing. You could just say Freeza trained his goons this time.

IMO, there were ways to easily include the Z fighters into this. It just depended if they wanted to or not.
Now THAT is an interesting idea! :thumbup:

Really, I've seen several people already complain about the rest of the cast not being there (which is a totally valid complaint - I understand, agree with it and I get it), but then not really offer what they would like to see specifically after that so it just seems like listening to a broken record. :/

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Post by Champa The Destroyer » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:26 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote:
Champa The Destroyer wrote:
sunsetshimmer wrote:This trailer looks awful honestly. Teaser looked pretty good but this is just bad.
Some frames look like Golden Frieza arc in Super.

This is gonna be Metal Cooler of DBS, movie that looks worse than anime series lmao.



........do you like anything other than GT and maybe some of Z or are you just here to crap on Super?
Read my post again and stop wasting my time with questions you could answer yourself if you spent 5 seconds to read my post instead of getting triggered like a kid.
And the thing that you even mention GT and think that i don't like anything else beside it (lmao) prove that you are typical "Yes to DBS, no to GT" type of "fan".
This is DBS related topic. Don't bring up GT and say some fake bs like i was here hating Super because i like GT and it means i have to hate Super.
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He's just a GT fanboy he doesnt care about any kind of new db products.
Ok ok. DBS fanboy :lol:


Lol at me disliking GT, I've said at least 15 times since I've been here that I like GT, so take your own advice of reading posts. Also, I'm not triggered, I'm just wondering why you're here. If anybody is "triggered", well, you're the one who wrote a paragraph and is trying to put words in my mouth. The fact you come here multiple times day to say "Super sucks k bye" doesnt exactly help your case.

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Post by ShaggyBlanco » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:28 pm

BrolyKale wrote:Looks like its Bardock and Goku
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+ the planet looks the same
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Post by Zelvin » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:29 pm

Lord Frieza wrote: That scene with the space pod and Paragus reminds me a lot of the scene from Bio-Broly where that priest guy got some of his blood.

Edit: If he's a clone he can die and still come back. Great advantage of cloning.
I don't feel they'd go the cloning route. Given the artwork that shows an adult Broly with a ruined outfit, it's more that Paragus spent years tracking down where his son had been banished to. And Paragus is investigating the pod that'd be covered and caked in dirt and dust, forming a near solid coating over years and years. They find Broly, alive, on this planet. Having survived like a savage animal, acting purely on instinct.

There is a scene in the trailer of base/calm Broly just eating some kind of bloody meat. Paragus and the other Saiyan may come across Broly as he's consuming a fresh kill.
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Post by GTx10 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:29 pm

Leave SunSetShiner alone. If he doesn't dig the trailer or certain things then what's it to you? Let's not be blind here, that shot of Son Goku walking towards the camera looks bad. He looks like Luffy, that and when Goku is eating food the movie looks like the Digimon Movie visually. Not a bad thing per say but jarring to say the least.
Also are we sure Yamamuro isn't here because those angry Goku and Vegeta faces look like Movie 8 and that is great! Actually the film really reminds me of the Digimon Movie, I am okay with that.
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Post by Lord Frieza » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:31 pm

Zelvin wrote:
Lord Frieza wrote: That scene with the space pod and Paragus reminds me a lot of the scene from Bio-Broly where that priest guy got some of his blood.

Edit: If he's a clone he can die and still come back. Great advantage of cloning.
I don't feel they'd go the cloning route. Given the artwork that shows an adult Broly with a ruined outfit, it's more that Paragus spent years tracking down where his son had been banished to. And Paragus is investigating the pod that'd be covered and caked in dirt and dust, forming a near solid coating over years and years. They find Broly, alive, on this planet. Having survived like a savage animal, acting purely on instinct.

There is a scene in the trailer of base/calm Broly just eating some kind of bloody meat. Paragus and the other Saiyan may come across Broly as he's consuming a fresh kill.
Maybe, thats a good alternative interpretation.


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On an unrelated note, Broly can get the Red Eyes, Take Warning trop added to his TVTrops profile now.
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Post by omaro34 » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:31 pm

No Gohan in the poster or the trailer. I'm not liking what Piccolo's role will be either. No other z fighter except Goku and Vegeta. I dont count Freeza as a z fighter. No krillin, 18, or even 17, goten, or trunks.

Lame. Nice animation though although that's expected.
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Post by Champa The Destroyer » Thu Jul 19, 2018 8:31 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote:
Champa The Destroyer wrote: I mean I actually like GT and it's completely fine if they do too but I don't think I've seen one of their posts thats not crapping on Super, praising GT, or both, and it's getting old. And people get mad at SupremeKai25 or only talking about the Zamasu Arc. :crazy:
Did you just compare me to THAT person? Come on.
I watched all series. I can have my opinion and i can give you arguments why i like one thing and don't like the other.
You don't have to agree with them of course. But i have every right to share my opinion and honestly the only fanboys right now are people who get triggered because i didn't like this trailer. No one has ever said it's "Praise DBS movie" topic. I didn't even mention GT here. You are the ones who brought it.
But please, don't compare me to people who pretend they have opinion. That's not fair.

Nobody has ever said that you can't have your opinion, but I see constant posts of "(insert Super Arc here) was so terrible that even the Super 17 Arc was better" or something along those lines. Constantly.

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