Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[bleed0range]

I want a sort of throwback line so bad where Goku explains to Broly about their SSJ God forms and God ki and he says something like, “God ki? Who needs Gods when you’re the devil!” Something like that, haha.

I wonder if the movies will follow the same format for the Z movies and it just shows vegeta getting jobed and then goku saves the day.

I think Goku will likely save the day with UI (there's a Gogeta theory going around as well) but both Vegeta and Freeza will put up good fights before going down.

I think its likely that they’ll pull a Fusion Reborn and have Freeza act as Pikkon and fight off Broly in the end as Goku gets Vegeta and they fuse into Gogeta.

Haha what if Goku and Freeza fuse while Broly is busy with Vegeta? Or vice verse? What would that look like!!! Ahhh!!

[BlueBasilisk]

I am still of the mind that Broly won't be defeated. He'll be pushed and pushed and pushed. And I figure this has all been brought to bear by Whis in order to show Goku and Vegeta where true strength lies. Broly is the embodiment of raw talent, unbridled strength and boundless power. But that's all he has. It's strength without purpose. And that's all Goku has been chasing. Goku wants to get stronger for the sake of getting stronger. To become as strong as he can be. To become the strongest.

Vegeta is much the same way, always wanting to prove he's stronger than Goku. Neither of them has a higher reason or purpose for their strength. Yes they do use it to protect their companions and loved ones. But that's no their reason for pursuing strength. Broly doesn't pursue strength at all. He is simply immeasurably strong. In fact, Broly probably hates that he is so strong, because it's the reason why Paragus is using him like a tool. If he wasn't strong, maybe the man who is said to be his father, would treat him better than an attack dog.

By the end of the movie, I think Broly is just going to leave. Take a pod back to the planet where Paragus had found him, wanting nothing more than to live quietly

I'd like this. Broly finding something else in life besides being an agent of violence and destruction. His character sorely lacks anything like that and I believe his creator (the man's name escapes me at the moment) even mentioned in one of his comments that Broly didn't have anything or anyone to fight for. It would fit with Toriyama's trend of having villains reform or change their ways to become less antagonistic. Except Cell and Zamasu.

[sintzu]

Haha what if Goku and Freeza fuse while Broly is busy with Vegeta? Or vice verse? What would that look like!!! Ahhh!!

Something that'll keep us all up at night .

[Baggie_Saiyan]

I wonder if the movies will follow the same format for the Z movies and it just shows vegeta getting jobed and then goku saves the day.

I think Goku will likely save the day with UI (there's a Gogeta theory going around as well) but both Vegeta and Freeza will put up good fights before going down.

It'll be interesting to see when Vegeta goes down. Right now evidence seems to suggest Vegeta isn't there when Broly goes full power...

Or it could mean maybe maybe Vegeta is involved in a separate plot point and isn't there for the final showdown.

[sintzu]

It'll be interesting to see when Vegeta goes down. Right now evidence seems to suggest Vegeta isn't there when Broly goes full power...

I think Vegeta will go down first and as Broly's fighting Goku, he changes his mind for some reason and attacks Freeza before going back to Goku once Freeza's taken down.

[YamiGoku]

Maby Vegeta is fighting freeza? or i'm missing something?


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It'll be interesting to see when Vegeta goes down. Right now evidence seems to suggest Vegeta isn't there when Broly goes full power...

I think Vegeta will go down first and as Broly's fighting Goku, he changes his mind for some reason and attacks Freeza before going back to Goku once Freeza's taken down.

yes, that's most probable scenario I can see happening

[emperior]

I am still of the mind that Broly won't be defeated. He'll be pushed and pushed and pushed. And I figure this has all been brought to bear by Whis in order to show Goku and Vegeta where true strength lies. Broly is the embodiment of raw talent, unbridled strength and boundless power. But that's all he has. It's strength without purpose. And that's all Goku has been chasing. Goku wants to get stronger for the sake of getting stronger. To become as strong as he can be. To become the strongest.

Vegeta is much the same way, always wanting to prove he's stronger than Goku. Neither of them has a higher reason or purpose for their strength. Yes they do use it to protect their companions and loved ones. But that's no their reason for pursuing strength. Broly doesn't pursue strength at all. He is simply immeasurably strong. In fact, Broly probably hates that he is so strong, because it's the reason why Paragus is using him like a tool. If he wasn't strong, maybe the man who is said to be his father, would treat him better than an attack dog.

By the end of the movie, I think Broly is just going to leave. Take a pod back to the planet where Paragus had found him, wanting nothing more than to live quietly

Man, this would be AWESOME! Whis teaching Goku and Vegeta to find something beyond just getting stronger would be great, and Broly would definitely serve the purpose of showing raw power without a goal. But I think Broly should eventually reach a limit, one not even he can broke because he lacks that something Goku and Vegeta too lack, which is a defined goal to get stronger and a more powerful motivation than “I just want to be stronger!” or “I won’t let Kakarot get ahead of me!”.
Although I believe Goku’s motivation is still perfectly fine, it would be nice if Toriyama decided to explore this aspect of Goku more.
Broly should therefore be defeated by the end, but he doesn’t have to be killed off. He could drop his motivations to kill Goku, Vegeta and whoever else he wants to kill and go back to live a peaceful life on his planet. Of course this could also mean Broly might appear again in the future, and that could be cool to see him suddenly reappearing on Goku’s side.

[ssj3kakarot]

I wanna know where Broly comes from.

If this is a an actual continuation from the Super story, then that means Broly was somewhere in U7 (supposedly) during the recruitment. What bothers me, is that Whis/Beerus knew NOTHING about this super duper uber strong amazing saiyan. It's too convient for my taste. Anyone else think about this? They could have a good reason as to why and where Broly came from, but its just to convenient.

[Ki Breaker]

What bugs me is that this battle is happening on earth, unless Broly has God ki and Freeza too knows how to hide his massive Golden Freeza ki, every Z fighter should have been there in minutes, they always come and this time shouldn't be an exception either..
I hope this is touched upon, nobody showing up even though they know something crazy is going on just dosen't fit the z fighters nature, but maybe that just me, maybe Krillin, gohan and tien are too busy doing taxes or something to worry about that

[BrolyKale]

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ブロリー[怒り]
Broly [Ikari] (yellow eyes) - Broly [Anger]

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[Lord Beerus]

https://twitter.com/GovetaXV/status/102 ... 26752?s=19
ブロリー[怒り]
Broly [Ikari] (yellow eyes) - Broly [Anger]

Could this be tied to the Super Saiyan Rage/Anger form that Future Trunks attained in Super?

[Sora Saiyan]

https://twitter.com/GovetaXV/status/102 ... 26752?s=19
ブロリー[怒り]
Broly [Ikari] (yellow eyes) - Broly [Anger]

Could this be tied to the Super Saiyan Rage/Anger form that Future Trunks attained in Super?

Nah, not that form. If it was his SSJ form that follows this form I would say there’s a little bit of a chance, but not his black hair yellow eyed form.

[emperior]

Maybe Broly has some special Ancient Saiyan DNA? We also saw Shallot with the yellow eyes in the intro of Legends and we never saw anything similar happening to Goku or Vegeta.
It could be similar to Assassin’s Creed in which a few people have higher concentration of the First Civilization’s DNA which allows them to see things others can’t see.
This would be the “origin of Saiyan’s strength”. That would be a neat concept and it could potentially lead to a future foe being an Ancient Saiyan with 100% of this special DNA which would explain his incredible power.
We also have the Hooded Saiyan in Legends referring to Shallot as the “defeated” and Goku as the “tainted”.

[TheSaiyanGod]

Honestly, is anyone really still excited to see Vegeta SSG in the movie? I mean, I'd love to see Vegeta using SSG in the ToP, it was the perfect time (especially in the fight against Aniraza), but now it seems too late. I prefer Vegeta to use SSB Evolution, a transformation that has little screen time. If he does not use it, it will seem that this new transformation never existed and had no impact on the plot. Anyway, I still like Vegeta SSG

And as a Vegeta fan, I hope he gets a good fight or at least be present in the final battle, it would be nice to see him fighting alongside Goku and Freeza. But I'm not creating expectations, it's usually good not to expect too much for Vegeta

[bleed0range]

Honestly, is anyone really still excited to see Vegeta SSG in the movie? I mean, I'd love to see Vegeta using SSG in the ToP, it was the perfect time (especially in the fight against Aniraza), but now it seems too late. I prefer Vegeta to use SSB Evolution, a transformation that has little screen time. If he does not use it, it will seem that this new transformation never existed and had no impact on the plot. Anyway, I still like Vegeta SSG

And as a Vegeta fan, I hope he gets a good fight or at least be present in the final battle, it would be nice to see him fighting alongside Goku and Freeza. But I'm not creating expectations, it's usually good not to expect too much for Vegeta

I’m excited for Red because we’ve never actually seen it and unlike that ridiculous SSB Evolution it actually looks different in some way. That Evolution form is bottom tier stuff as far as transformation designs go. I can’t even remember any kind of tangible difference. I actually laughed at how it really didn’t change at all when they showed it in the TOP.

They could have just made him figure out how to use the Red form with more power or something so he could stand out more.

From an art perspective it’s much more interesting to see lots of color against the snowy backdrop. Red will be a nice contrast.

[TheSaiyanGod]

Honestly, is anyone really still excited to see Vegeta SSG in the movie? I mean, I'd love to see Vegeta using SSG in the ToP, it was the perfect time (especially in the fight against Aniraza), but now it seems too late. I prefer Vegeta to use SSB Evolution, a transformation that has little screen time. If he does not use it, it will seem that this new transformation never existed and had no impact on the plot. Anyway, I still like Vegeta SSG

And as a Vegeta fan, I hope he gets a good fight or at least be present in the final battle, it would be nice to see him fighting alongside Goku and Freeza. But I'm not creating expectations, it's usually good not to expect too much for Vegeta

I’m excited for Red because we’ve never actually seen it and unlike that ridiculous SSB Evolution it actually looks different in some way. That Evolution form is bottom tier stuff as far as transformation designs go. I can’t even remember any kind of tangible difference. I actually laughed at how it really didn’t change at all when they showed it in the TOP.

They could have just made him figure out how to use the Red form with more power or something so he could stand out more.

From an art perspective it’s much more interesting to see lots of color against the snowy backdrop. Red will be a nice contrast.

When the SSB Evolution is well designed, the differences are quite remarkable, especially because of the color of the hair that is much darker than the Blue, the 'stars' that are in the aura and the pupils. The problem is that in the movie, Blue's hair and aura are also darker in relation to anime.

Vegeta probably will not get the UI for a long time, so SSBE is the only form above Blue that he has at the moment and that makes him able to rival Goku's SSBK, so I'd like him to use it.
I would have been more satisfied with SSG in ToP. Vegeta needed to save energy and could still use the God - Blue strategy (seen in the manga), so the red form was very useful. But in this movie, Broly will probably be a lot stronger, so will SSG have any use?

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Honestly, is anyone really still excited to see Vegeta SSG in the movie? I mean, I'd love to see Vegeta using SSG in the ToP, it was the perfect time (especially in the fight against Aniraza), but now it seems too late. I prefer Vegeta to use SSB Evolution, a transformation that has little screen time. If he does not use it, it will seem that this new transformation never existed and had no impact on the plot. Anyway, I still like Vegeta SSG

And as a Vegeta fan, I hope he gets a good fight or at least be present in the final battle, it would be nice to see him fighting alongside Goku and Freeza. But I'm not creating expectations, it's usually good not to expect too much for Vegeta

I’m excited for Red because we’ve never actually seen it and unlike that ridiculous SSB Evolution it actually looks different in some way. That Evolution form is bottom tier stuff as far as transformation designs go. I can’t even remember any kind of tangible difference. I actually laughed at how it really didn’t change at all when they showed it in the TOP.

They could have just made him figure out how to use the Red form with more power or something so he could stand out more.

From an art perspective it’s much more interesting to see lots of color against the snowy backdrop. Red will be a nice contrast.

Vegeta's aura was different, his eyes had pupils, the hair colour was different and his hair was longer. Sure seems a lot different to me. In fact SSGSS.E probably has the most differences out of any Vegeta form.

[sintzu]

Honestly, is anyone really still excited to see Vegeta SSG in the movie ?

I am, not because it'll be useful but because we've never seen him use it on screen so it'll be nice to finally see it animated.

I would have been more satisfied with SSG in ToP. Vegeta needed to save energy and could still use the God - Blue strategy.

He also needed something to put him on Goku's non-UI level so it makes sense they picked a new, higher level form over the weaker SsjG.

as a Vegeta fan, I hope he gets a good fight or at least be present in the final battle, it would be nice to see him fighting alongside Goku and Freeza.

I'm not creating expectations, it's usually good not to expect too much for Vegeta.

If they have to pick one person to be alongside Goku it'll be Vegeta cause Broly's a Saiyan and we already got a Goku-Freeza team up at the end of the TOP.

Super has actually done more with him than I expected so I'm pretty confident in the role he'll play here. He won't take down Broly but I think he'll have a respectable role that'll satisfy the majority of his fans.

[AnimeNation101]

there was that feminine shape for Kefla last I check, it just lacked the hair really. Hopefully it will at least give us SOME indication of who it is. I'm betting on Bardock and Gine, but I'm hoping to be surprised

That wasn’t a silhouette of Kefla at all though. That was more like Toriyama’s concept art for Controlled SSJ Kale minus her hair to make it a mystery. The actually figure did not resemble the silhouette and it even said that the character wouldn’t resemble the silhouette.

Anyways, according to Baggie_Saiyan, we’ll be able to tell whether the hidden characters are just transformations for either Goku, Vegeta, and Broly, (what about Freeza though?). We’ll also be able to tell if the hidden characters are fusions or just new characters. I don’t really know if you can consider Bardock and Gine “new” characters.

I hope the hidden characters surprise me as well. Although I have a feeling at least one of them is Gogeta.

For WCFs we will be able to tell (if there are blank characters in that), those will get revealed next week too. But Ichiban Kuji is a different ball game since ratio's for Ichiban Kuji figures are always between 1&2 so no way we'll be able to tell anything unless they release a silhouette.

(The UI WCF was straight blanked, but the Ichiban Kuji had the silhouette.)

The odds of these hidden characters being Saiyan are high since the last non Saiyan to be in an Ichiban Kuji was Freeza back in September 2015 we've had about 14 (yes 14!) Ichiban Kuji's since then with all figures Saiyans.

I wonder what people hope these secret characters are. I’d want and expect one off the characters to be Gogeta Blue (or maybe even Gogeta UI) or something. The other one is a long shot but i’d hope it would be Yamoshi.

[sintzu]

I’d want and expect one off the characters to be Gogeta Blue (or maybe even Gogeta UI).

I don't think we'll get a fusion UI before Vegeta gets it so if Gogeta's in it'll most likely be Blue.