Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
User avatar
BlueBasilisk
I Live Here
Posts: 3062
Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:58 am

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by BlueBasilisk » Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:01 pm

The mystery characters are actually [spoiler]Saiyan Saga Goku and Vegeta with Kaioken/Galick Gun effects.[/spoiler] What if one is that Cabba-looking guy looking into the empty space pod?

DBZel7
Newbie
Posts: 2
Joined: Mon Jul 02, 2018 3:31 pm

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by DBZel7 » Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:07 pm

Any thoughts on what role the Dragon Balls will play in the movie?

Clearly involved based on the trailer.

User avatar
AnimeNation101
I Live Here
Posts: 2191
Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:01 pm
Location: Planet ShoJump

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by AnimeNation101 » Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:13 pm

sintzu wrote:
AnimeNation101 wrote:I’d want and expect one off the characters to be Gogeta Blue (or maybe even Gogeta UI).
I don't think we'll get a fusion UI before Vegeta gets it so if Gogeta's in it'll most likely be Blue.
But remember that we do know that a fusion can use the abilities of both its fusees. Sot UI Gogeta wouldn’t be impossible. I’d take UI Gogeta, SSBEvolution Gogeta, SSBKKx20 Gogeta, and even SSBEKKx20 Gogeta.
Although out of any Gogeta, SSBGogeta is the most likely with a medium chance that he’ll use SSBKK.
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie. 8)

"I don't think I'm a hero of justice or anythin'. But those who'd hurt my friends... I won't forgive!"

User avatar
AnimeNation101
I Live Here
Posts: 2191
Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:01 pm
Location: Planet ShoJump

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by AnimeNation101 » Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:17 pm

BlueBasilisk wrote:The mystery characters are actually [spoiler]Saiyan Saga Goku and Vegeta with Kaioken/Galick Gun effects.[/spoiler] What if one is that Cabba-looking guy looking into the empty space pod?
He doesn’t really seem that important enough. I wonder how many more new characters we’ll get. We have 4 months worth of character reveals left. I doubt they’d reveal who the 2 secret characters were especially if one of them was Gogeta since it would be a spoiler. But we’ll find out from the merch.
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie. 8)

"I don't think I'm a hero of justice or anythin'. But those who'd hurt my friends... I won't forgive!"

User avatar
sintzu
Banned
Posts: 13583
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:41 pm

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by sintzu » Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:41 pm

AnimeNation101 wrote:But remember that we do know that a fusion can use the abilities of both its fusees.
I know, I just don't think the writers will want to give him that before Vegeta gets it. They will also probably want to save that kind of strength for a future villain so for the time being I think Blue Gogeta will be enough for Broly. It'll also give them more option for marketing instead of jumping right to UI.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.

User avatar
Baggie_Saiyan
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 10315
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:22 pm
Location: Atlantis.

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:44 pm

AnimeNation101 wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
AnimeNation101 wrote: That wasn’t a silhouette of Kefla at all though. That was more like Toriyama’s concept art for Controlled SSJ Kale minus her hair to make it a mystery. The actually figure did not resemble the silhouette and it even said that the character wouldn’t resemble the silhouette.

Anyways, according to Baggie_Saiyan, we’ll be able to tell whether the hidden characters are just transformations for either Goku, Vegeta, and Broly, (what about Freeza though?). We’ll also be able to tell if the hidden characters are fusions or just new characters. I don’t really know if you can consider Bardock and Gine “new” characters.

I hope the hidden characters surprise me as well. Although I have a feeling at least one of them is Gogeta.
For WCFs we will be able to tell (if there are blank characters in that), those will get revealed next week too. But Ichiban Kuji is a different ball game since ratio's for Ichiban Kuji figures are always between 1&2 so no way we'll be able to tell anything unless they release a silhouette.

(The UI WCF was straight blanked, but the Ichiban Kuji had the silhouette.)

The odds of these hidden characters being Saiyan are high since the last non Saiyan to be in an Ichiban Kuji was Freeza back in September 2015 we've had about 14 (yes 14!) Ichiban Kuji's since then with all figures Saiyans.
I wonder what people hope these secret characters are. I’d want and expect one off the characters to be Gogeta Blue (or maybe even Gogeta UI) or something. The other one is a long shot but i’d hope it would be Yamoshi.
Gogeta technically would be a new character so that ain't out the question. But I still have my reservations really don't want fusions... I am not sure Bardock will be counted as "new" so might rule him out.

If it's new characters that have already been unveiled then Paragus seems a good shout.

Yamoshi would warrant importance over Vegeta if he is in the film and the lore about him is fleshed out even more.

So I'll guess Paragus and Yamoshi.

User avatar
BlueBasilisk
I Live Here
Posts: 3062
Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:58 am

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by BlueBasilisk » Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:55 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Gogeta technically would be a new character so that ain't out the question. But I still have my reservations really don't want fusions... I am not sure Bardock will be counted as "new" so might rule him out.

If it's new characters that have already been unveiled then Paragus seems a good shout.

Yamoshi would warrant importance over Vegeta if he is in the film and the lore about him is fleshed out even more.

So I'll guess Paragus and Yamoshi.
Could it be just one new character with two different forms or variants?

User avatar
AnimeNation101
I Live Here
Posts: 2191
Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:01 pm
Location: Planet ShoJump

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by AnimeNation101 » Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:01 pm

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:
AnimeNation101 wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: For WCFs we will be able to tell (if there are blank characters in that), those will get revealed next week too. But Ichiban Kuji is a different ball game since ratio's for Ichiban Kuji figures are always between 1&2 so no way we'll be able to tell anything unless they release a silhouette.

(The UI WCF was straight blanked, but the Ichiban Kuji had the silhouette.)

The odds of these hidden characters being Saiyan are high since the last non Saiyan to be in an Ichiban Kuji was Freeza back in September 2015 we've had about 14 (yes 14!) Ichiban Kuji's since then with all figures Saiyans.
I wonder what people hope these secret characters are. I’d want and expect one off the characters to be Gogeta Blue (or maybe even Gogeta UI) or something. The other one is a long shot but i’d hope it would be Yamoshi.
Gogeta technically would be a new character so that ain't out the question. But I still have my reservations really don't want fusions... I am not sure Bardock will be counted as "new" so might rule him out.

If it's new characters that have already been unveiled then Paragus seems a good shout.

Yamoshi would warrant importance over Vegeta if he is in the film and the lore about him is fleshed out even more.

So I'll guess Paragus and Yamoshi.
I’m kind of on the fence about Bardock but i want to lean more towards him not being new. Probably the same with Gine. But chances are that if Bardock is one of the new character figures, Gine is the other and vice-versa. They’re a pair so they’d probably be advertised and sold as one too.

I’d be happy if Paragus played a bigger role than he did in Movie 8. But above all, I REALLY want Yamoshi to be one of them.
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie. 8)

"I don't think I'm a hero of justice or anythin'. But those who'd hurt my friends... I won't forgive!"

User avatar
Baggie_Saiyan
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 10315
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:22 pm
Location: Atlantis.

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sat Jul 28, 2018 1:04 pm

BlueBasilisk wrote:
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Gogeta technically would be a new character so that ain't out the question. But I still have my reservations really don't want fusions... I am not sure Bardock will be counted as "new" so might rule him out.

If it's new characters that have already been unveiled then Paragus seems a good shout.

Yamoshi would warrant importance over Vegeta if he is in the film and the lore about him is fleshed out even more.

So I'll guess Paragus and Yamoshi.
Could it be just one new character with two different forms or variants?
Maybe, but the "Characters A & B" to me imply not but could very well be.

User avatar
BlueBasilisk
I Live Here
Posts: 3062
Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:58 am

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by BlueBasilisk » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:37 pm

Herms has a breakdown of an interview with producerNorihiro Hayashida. Sounds really promising!

User avatar
Super Saiyan Swagger
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1978
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:17 am
Location: Australia

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Super Saiyan Swagger » Sat Jul 28, 2018 9:42 pm

BlueBasilisk wrote:Herms has a breakdown of an interview with producerNorihiro Hayashida. Sounds really promising!
Very considerate of Toei to give dubbing studios a rough cut of the film so that they can get a dub finished on time. It’s almost unheard of for anime films to receive a dub and release so soon after it comes out in Japan.

User avatar
AnimeNation101
I Live Here
Posts: 2191
Joined: Wed Apr 05, 2017 8:01 pm
Location: Planet ShoJump

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by AnimeNation101 » Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:48 pm

BlueBasilisk wrote:Herms has a breakdown of an interview with producerNorihiro Hayashida. Sounds really promising!
I don’t get why they keep comparing this movie to a space opera. Looking up what a space opera is, it seems like something you would never see in Dragon Ball.
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie. 8)

"I don't think I'm a hero of justice or anythin'. But those who'd hurt my friends... I won't forgive!"

User avatar
BlueBasilisk
I Live Here
Posts: 3062
Joined: Sun Feb 05, 2017 11:58 am

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by BlueBasilisk » Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:50 pm

AnimeNation101 wrote:
BlueBasilisk wrote:Herms has a breakdown of an interview with producerNorihiro Hayashida. Sounds really promising!
I don’t get why they keep comparing this movie to a space opera. Looking up what a space opera is, it seems like something you would never see in Dragon Ball.
I think he's just hyping it up as a grand space adventure.

User avatar
sintzu
Banned
Posts: 13583
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:41 pm

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by sintzu » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:44 pm

Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:It’s almost unheard of for anime films to receive a dub and release so soon after it comes out in Japan.
It's also unheard of to see an anime be internationally as big as it is domestically so it's nice to finally see them realize the potential DB has overseas which is way overdue.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.

User avatar
Jackalope89
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1108
Joined: Sun Dec 03, 2017 9:36 pm

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Jackalope89 » Sun Jul 29, 2018 12:12 am

sintzu wrote:
Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:It’s almost unheard of for anime films to receive a dub and release so soon after it comes out in Japan.
It's also unheard of to see an anime be internationally as big as it is domestically so it's nice to finally see them realize the potential DB has overseas which is way overdue.
I think only Pokemon is more widespread than Dragon Ball, for an anime franchise. But even then, Pokemon is marketed mainly towards kids. Dragon Ball, while originally for kids, has found a wide audience with older audiences as well.

Saikyo no Senshi
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1205
Joined: Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:08 am
Location: Earth
Contact:

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Saikyo no Senshi » Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:03 am

Lol. More PR bullshit from Hayashida. The "DBS episode 5 had newbie animators" dude. All major films have the luxury of providing a rough cut and having time to do corrections before the final version. The HeroAca movie is the most recent example. This guy knows nothing about the industry.

User avatar
emperior
I Live Here
Posts: 4347
Joined: Fri Apr 24, 2015 1:52 pm
Location: Dragon World
Contact:

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by emperior » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:04 am

I like how involved Toriyama is this time. I always wanted him to be as involved as possible and this is perfect. Though I wonder if he will want to stick with movies only, to keep the quality high and to oversee the whole thing better.
But I want a new show so much, which is why I hope they will start to plan it out as soon as possible so that the schedule is perfect and Toriyama can check things better, for a more consistent show writing-wise. Of course a good production would also mean that supervisors get more time to correct their episodes, so that the art is consistent every week. 1 supervisor per episode would also be very nice, if possible.
悟 “Vincit qui se vincit”

What I consider canonical

User avatar
Super Saiyan Swagger
I'm, pretty, cozy, here...
Posts: 1978
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2014 9:17 am
Location: Australia

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Super Saiyan Swagger » Sun Jul 29, 2018 4:29 am

emperior wrote:I like how involved Toriyama is this time. I always wanted him to be as involved as possible and this is perfect. Though I wonder if he will want to stick with movies only, to keep the quality high and to oversee the whole thing better.
But I want a new show so much, which is why I hope they will start to plan it out as soon as possible so that the schedule is perfect and Toriyama can check things better, for a more consistent show writing-wise. Of course a good production would also mean that supervisors get more time to correct their episodes, so that the art is consistent every week. 1 supervisor per episode would also be very nice, if possible.
I know this won't happen, but I would love it if the show returns as a seasonal anime rather than a long-running series. It would work wonders for the production. It would give Toriyama, the editors and the writers plenty of time to flesh out the story.

User avatar
Sora Saiyan
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1084
Joined: Wed Jan 28, 2015 7:19 am
Location: Destiny Islands

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by Sora Saiyan » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:00 am

Looks like this film should be good, nothing in the DBS franchise has been hyped the way this film is being by the producer. Obviously it’s best not to expect way too much as it will probably lead to disappointment, but I’m hoping for something a little meaty.

I’m loving how involved Toriyama is with this film, hopefully when he puts this much effort in we’ll actually get something akin to his older work. Even though it’s an old character being used, can he add his charm to this film and make it his own? Only time will tell.

The only thing that worried me with the producers comments is that we found out that this is the first time Toriyamas been able to check over everything the anime is doing. Obviously it makes sense that the anime couldn’t show everything because of how tight their schedule was.
The issue that dawned on me is that this seems like ammunition for people to use with that pesky canon debate.

User avatar
dbgtFO
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 7970
Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:07 pm
Contact:

Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"

Post by dbgtFO » Sun Jul 29, 2018 6:59 am

Sora Saiyan wrote:The only thing that worried me with the producers comments is that we found out that this is the first time Toriyamas been able to check over everything the anime is doing. Obviously it makes sense that the anime couldn’t show everything because of how tight their schedule was.
The issue that dawned on me is that this seems like ammunition for people to use with that pesky canon debate.
That's what I thought too, but at least I get confirmation that of course he didn't look over everything, so it's all good.
People can go nuts for all I care, it won't be something I'll spend my time bothering with.

Post Reply