The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Zamasu55 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 6:40 am

ricky84 wrote:Spirit Sword Trunks vs Aniraza
SSJ Cumber vs Limit Breaker Jiren
Android 18 (post-Ribrianne fight) vs SSJ2 Caulifla
1st Omen Goku vs Black arc Vegito & Merged Zamasu
U6 arc Piccolo vs Super Buu
SSJ1 Kefla vs SSBE Vegeta (before the Toppo fight)
1) Trunks easily.
2) Pass.
3) Caulifla.
4) Goku is much stronger than them but UI omen only lasts for a few minutes, so he loses.
5) Buu turns him to candy.
6) Vegeta.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ricky84 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:36 am

True Golden Freeza & ToP Gohan vs SSJR Goku Black & Future Zamasu
SSJ2 Cabba vs Present Zamasu
Mastered Berzerk Kale vs Black arc SSG Goku
BoG Piccolo vs Majin Vegeta
23th Tenkaiichi top 8 vs 1 Saibaman
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by PFM18 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:18 pm

ricky84 wrote:Spirit Sword Trunks vs Aniraza
I am of the opinion that Vegetto weakened Zamasu a lot and that is what gave Trunks the ability to overpower Zamasu with his Genki Sword thing. So I think Trunks wins still but only slightly.
SSJ Cumber vs Limit Breaker Jiren
No comment.
Android 18 (post-Ribrianne fight) vs SSJ2 Caulifla
Caulifla stomps. Honestly I think Base Caulifla vs 18 would be a better fight.
1st Omen Goku vs Black arc Vegito & Merged Zamasu
I think the duo wins because UI doesn't last that long and they are relatively similar in power.
U6 arc Piccolo vs Super Buu
I think this is very close but Piccolo wins with high difficulty.
SSJ1 Kefla vs SSBE Vegeta (before the Toppo fight)
It depends if this is initial Kefla or the one fighting UI Goku prior to turning SSJ2. If it is the former Kefla gets one shot if it is the latter Kefla wins with mild difficulty. It was stated a couple times that her power was growing so as it went on she got dramatically stronger.
True Golden Freeza & ToP Gohan vs SSJR Goku Black & Future Zamasu
Freeza and Gohan win assuming that Zamasu isn't immortal in this scenario.
SSJ2 Cabba vs Present Zamasu
This one is really hard to say. It is extremely close but I think that Zamasu pulls it out with a decisive stab at some point in the fight when Cabba lets his guard down.
Mastered Berzerk Kale vs Black arc SSG Goku
This one is also extremely hard to say. I am leaning towards Goku here. Goku has a slight advantage in power and skill imo.
BoG Piccolo vs Majin Vegeta
Vegeta wins very comfortably.
23th Tenkaiichi top 8 vs 1 Saibaman
Saibaman wins

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:37 pm

How strong would a potara fusion between Saiyan Saga Goku and Raditz, otherwise known as Raditto, be? Who would be the strongest person he would defeat?
Caulifla best girl! :)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dragon boss z » Tue Aug 07, 2018 12:47 pm

ricky84 wrote:True Golden Freeza & ToP Gohan vs SSJR Goku Black & Future Zamasu
SSJ2 Cabba vs Present Zamasu
Mastered Berzerk Kale vs Black arc SSG Goku
BoG Piccolo vs Majin Vegeta
23th Tenkaiichi top 8 vs 1 Saibaman
-Black would probably get killed, but I'm not sure what they are going to do about future Zamasu.
-Cabba wins. Future Zamasu was weaker than ssj2 Trunks, so ssj2 Cabba should at least be stronger than present Zamasu.
-SSG Goku
-Majin Vegeta. ToP Piccolo is when he could take on ssj2 tiers, at least in the anime.
-Saibaman
Dragon Ball Gus wrote:How strong would a potara fusion between Beginning of Z Goku and Raditz, otherwise known as Raditto, be? Who would be the strongest person he would defeat?
Probably captain Ginyu.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by MoscoSama » Tue Aug 07, 2018 7:30 pm

ricky84 wrote:Base Kefla vs SSJR Goku Black
Hit vs Base Vegito (ToP)
KKx20 Super Perfect Cell vs Super Buu
SSJ2 Future Gohan vs Kamicollo
Infinite Zamasu vs 1st UI Omen Goku

Base Kefla (only if she’s completely serious from start)

Base Vegito

Super Buu

Kamicollo

Infinite Zamasu

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ricky84 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:19 pm

ToP Krillin vs Super Prefect Cell
ToP Roshi vs Namek arc Freeza
SSB Vegeta (Black arc post-ROSAT) vs SSBKKx10 Goku (Champa arc)
Golden Freeza (RoF) vs Mastered Berzerk Kale
Post-ToP Vegito Blue vs Kefla (after 2 years of Vados' training)
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by MoscoSama » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:51 pm

ricky84 wrote:ToP Krillin vs Super Prefect Cell
ToP Roshi vs Namek arc Freeza
SSB Vegeta (Black arc post-ROSAT) vs SSBKKx10 Goku (Champa arc)
Golden Freeza (RoF) vs Mastered Berzerk Kale
Post-ToP Vegito Blue vs Kefla (after 2 years of Vados' training)
SPC
Freeza
SSB KKx10 Goku
Mastered Berserk Kale
Probably Kefla considering they SHOULD make serious gains individually under her

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dragon boss z » Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:26 pm

ricky84 wrote:ToP Krillin vs Super Prefect Cell
ToP Roshi vs Namek arc Freeza
SSB Vegeta (Black arc post-ROSAT) vs SSBKKx10 Goku (Champa arc)
Golden Freeza (RoF) vs Mastered Berzerk Kale
Post-ToP Vegito Blue vs Kefla (after 2 years of Vados' training)
-Cell stomps
-Frieza stomps
-Goku as long as his body holds out
-Golden Frieza, as mastered Berzerk Kale was losing to SSG Goku and in the manga I think she would eventually tire out or have her movements read but she would beat Frieza around a bit first as she did.
-Probably Kefla, especially if she gets a new transformation.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Wed Aug 08, 2018 3:02 am

Berserker1921 wrote:1. GoD Toppo vs Hit? (No rules, killing allowed)

2. 17 vs Dyspo?

3. Gohan, Trunks, 17 vs Kefla? (Kefla is only fused for 2 minutes)

4. Aniraza vs Dyspo and Toppo? (No GoD form)

5. Jiren vs Beerus? (No Hakai)?
Hit has no chance to win this.
While Dyspo is a complete weakling, his speed can give him the win if he can caught 17 off guard and damage him greatly.
Kefla only needs to turn Super Saiyan and can defeat them all in 1 second.
Aniraza is stronger but they can take advantage of his size to get a win.
Jiren but it's very close.
ricky84 wrote:Base Kefla vs SSJR Goku Black
Hit vs Base Vegito (ToP)
KKx20 Super Perfect Cell vs Super Buu
SSJ2 Future Gohan vs Kamicollo
Infinite Zamasu vs 1st UI Omen Goku
Rose Black? He kills her with ease.
Vegetto has no chance in base.
Cell can win but I doubt he could finish off Boo without getting absorbed or getting turned into candy.
This is actually a very good match. My bias says Piccolo.
No one can defeat Infinite Zamasu but Zeno. Goku will either spend his entire lifetime punching air or Zamasu attacks him until Goku gets tired and dies.
ricky84 wrote:Spirit Sword Trunks vs Aniraza
SSJ Cumber vs Limit Breaker Jiren
Android 18 (post-Ribrianne fight) vs SSJ2 Caulifla
1st Omen Goku vs Black arc Vegito & Merged Zamasu
U6 arc Piccolo vs Super Buu
SSJ1 Kefla vs SSBE Vegeta (before the Toppo fight)
Genki Sword Trunks is god tier so he murders.
No idea.
SS1 Caulifla murders.
Goku has no chance. Only MUI can beat them.
If this was ToP Piccolo then he would have stomped but here he loses badly.
Vegeta beats her after a good fight.
ricky84 wrote:True Golden Freeza & ToP Gohan vs SSJR Goku Black & Future Zamasu
SSJ2 Cabba vs Present Zamasu
Mastered Berzerk Kale vs Black arc SSG Goku
BoG Piccolo vs Majin Vegeta
23th Tenkaiichi top 8 vs 1 Saibaman
While Black and Freeza are on par if not equal, Gohan is a lot stronger than Zamasu but the later is immortal. I give this to team B since they can coordinate better and if Black uses is scythe then it's over for team A.
Cabba wins after a very hard fight.
Still Goku. He barely got stronger since the FT arc.
Vegeta murders him with Super Saiyan.
I think they can manage something. Goku's Super Kamehameha was already at 910 vs 1,200 from the Saibaman.
ricky84 wrote:ToP Krillin vs Super Prefect Cell
ToP Roshi vs Namek arc Freeza
SSB Vegeta (Black arc post-ROSAT) vs SSBKKx10 Goku (Champa arc)
Golden Freeza (RoF) vs Mastered Berzerk Kale
Post-ToP Vegito Blue vs Kefla (after 2 years of Vados' training)
Cell wins easily.
Which Freeza? I think Roshi can beat a 10% FF Freeza as his limit. Although he can always Mafuba him.
Goku only needs regular Kaioken to win.
Freeza with ease.
Kefla should be a lot stronger than him in this scenario.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Zamasu55 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:35 am

ricky84 wrote:True Golden Freeza & ToP Gohan vs SSJR Goku Black & Future Zamasu
SSJ2 Cabba vs Present Zamasu
Mastered Berzerk Kale vs Black arc SSG Goku
BoG Piccolo vs Majin Vegeta
23th Tenkaiichi top 8 vs 1 Saibaman
1) It depends on which version of Black this is. The one with the scythe is really too much for them. Plus Zamasu is immortal and neither Gohan nor Freeza know the Mafuuba or another attack than seals opponents. The divine duo takes it.
2) Ssj2 Goku > Ssj2 Cabba, and Zamasu wasn't that weaker than him. He wins imo.
3) Goku still wins.
4) Piccolo gets slaughtered.
5) The group takes it.
ricky84 wrote:ToP Krillin vs Super Prefect Cell
ToP Roshi vs Namek arc Freeza
SSB Vegeta (Black arc post-ROSAT) vs SSBKKx10 Goku (Champa arc)
Golden Freeza (RoF) vs Mastered Berzerk Kale
Post-ToP Vegito Blue vs Kefla (after 2 years of Vados' training)
1) Cell kills him instantly.
2) Roshi seals him.
3) Vegeta, easily. Black Goku was confirmed to be stronger than Hit and Vegeta humiliated him.
4) Golden Freeza was still SsjB+ tier. He wins.
5) Vegito, unless Kefla unlocks SsjB.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ricky84 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:59 am

This is pretty fun lol. I got a few more.

U7 top 3 (MUI Goku, SSBE Vegeta & 17) vs U11 top 3 (LB Jiren, GoD Toppo & LS Dyspo) in a death match
Cabba, Caulfila and Kale (no fusion) vs all U2 & U9 fighters
SSBE Vegito (Post-ToP) vs MUI Goku & LB Jiren
Goku (no kaioken) vs Vegeta (equal stats)
ToP Krillin, Tien and Roshi vs Super Buu
SSJ3 Raditz vs Early Namek arc Goku
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by MoscoSama » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:03 am

ricky84 wrote:This is pretty fun lol. I got a few more.

U7 top 3 (MUI Goku, SSBE Vegeta & 17) vs U11 top 3 (LB Jiren, GoD Toppo & LS Dyspo) in a death match
Cabba, Caulfila and Kale (no fusion) vs all U2 & U9 fighters
SSBE Vegito (Post-ToP) vs MUI Goku & LB Jiren
Goku (no kaioken) vs Vegeta (equal stats)
ToP Krillin, Tien and Roshi vs Super Buu
SSJ3 Raditz vs Early Namek arc Goku
U7 Top 3

U2 magical boys black hole wins, it took blue kk Goku episode 118 to beat that , 17 couldn’t do anything

Ssbe Vegito shitstomps

Goku wins

Roshi mafubas so the 3 baldies won

Raditz * 400 = pl of ~ 500,000 which was above Goku early namek unless he uses kaioken x 20 so id say raditz easily unless Goku uses kk

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Post by PFM18 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 12:51 pm

ToP Krillin vs Super Prefect Cell
It is extremely hard to tell where Krillin stands during this time because he was given so little focus. I lean towards Super Perfect Cell.
ToP Roshi vs Namek arc Freeza
Freeza. Roshi had fought a suppressed Goku while getting a ki amp from the lady controlling him. Nothing indicated that his power had particularly changed that much.
SSB Vegeta (Black arc post-ROSAT) vs SSBKKx10 Goku (Champa arc)
Vegeta wins easily.
Golden Freeza (RoF) vs Mastered Berzerk Kale
Golden Freeza. Kale is clearly weaker than ToP SSG Goku and I don't think Goku by this time had surpassed Golden Freeza in his SSG form.

Freeza wins.
Post-ToP Vegito Blue vs Kefla (after 2 years of Vados' training)
No clue.
U7 top 3 (MUI Goku, SSBE Vegeta & 17) vs U11 top 3 (LB Jiren, GoD Toppo & LS Dyspo) in a death match
Universe 7's top 3 has Freeza instead of 17. Universe 7 wins.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dragon boss z » Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:00 pm

ricky84 wrote: U7 top 3 (MUI Goku, SSBE Vegeta & 17) vs U11 top 3 (LB Jiren, GoD Toppo & LS Dyspo) in a death match
Cabba, Caulfila and Kale (no fusion) vs all U2 & U9 fighters
SSBE Vegito (Post-ToP) vs MUI Goku & LB Jiren
Goku (no kaioken) vs Vegeta (equal stats)
ToP Krillin, Tien and Roshi vs Super Buu
SSJ3 Raditz vs Early Namek arc Goku
-Imo Frieza>17, but either way U7 team should win.
-The saiyans, Kale could take a good chunk out if not all of them by herself.
-MUI Goku and LB Jiren each solo stomp.
-tie, but if I have to pick one then Goku for being the MC
-Super Buu unless they seal him
-If we go by the 400x multiplier and his daizenshuu power level, his ssj3 power level would be 600,000. He wins unless Goku uses kaioken x10.

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dragon boss z wrote:
ricky84 wrote: U7 top 3 (MUI Goku, SSBE Vegeta & 17) vs U11 top 3 (LB Jiren, GoD Toppo & LS Dyspo) in a death match
Cabba, Caulfila and Kale (no fusion) vs all U2 & U9 fighters
SSBE Vegito (Post-ToP) vs MUI Goku & LB Jiren
Goku (no kaioken) vs Vegeta (equal stats)
ToP Krillin, Tien and Roshi vs Super Buu
SSJ3 Raditz vs Early Namek arc Goku
-Imo Frieza>17, but either way U7 team should win.
-The saiyans, Kale could take a good chunk out if not all of them by herself.
-MUI Goku and LB Jiren each solo stomp.
-tie, but if I have to pick one then Goku for being the MC
-Super Buu unless they seal him
-If we go by the 400x multiplier and his daizenshuu power level, his ssj3 power level would be 600,000. He wins unless Goku uses kaioken x10.
Did you see that as Vegeta instead of Vegito?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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MoscoSama wrote:
dragon boss z wrote:
ricky84 wrote: U7 top 3 (MUI Goku, SSBE Vegeta & 17) vs U11 top 3 (LB Jiren, GoD Toppo & LS Dyspo) in a death match
Cabba, Caulfila and Kale (no fusion) vs all U2 & U9 fighters
SSBE Vegito (Post-ToP) vs MUI Goku & LB Jiren
Goku (no kaioken) vs Vegeta (equal stats)
ToP Krillin, Tien and Roshi vs Super Buu
SSJ3 Raditz vs Early Namek arc Goku
-Imo Frieza>17, but either way U7 team should win.
-The saiyans, Kale could take a good chunk out if not all of them by herself.
-MUI Goku and LB Jiren each solo stomp.
-tie, but if I have to pick one then Goku for being the MC
-Super Buu unless they seal him
-If we go by the 400x multiplier and his daizenshuu power level, his ssj3 power level would be 600,000. He wins unless Goku uses kaioken x10.
Did you see that as Vegeta instead of Vegito?
Yes I did, lmao.

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Post by Hulk10 » Wed Aug 08, 2018 11:53 pm

What about new Broly vs Jiren? :think:
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 2:09 am

Hulk10 wrote:What about new Broly vs Jiren? :think:
We don’t know how strong Broly is exactly. A producer or the director of the movie claims Broly is the strongest opponent Goku will have faced yet. However, unless FB (Full power, ssj Berserk, Legendary ssj or whatever he is called) Broly stomps MUI Goku or seriously does damage to him. Then I will give Broly the win, a tough battle for sure. But if Broly gets “Gogeta’d” by MUI Goku. Then I give it to Jiren.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ricky84 » Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:08 am

SSJ Nappa vs the entire Ginyu Force (no body change)
Android 18 vs Trio de dangers
Merged Zamasu (halo) vs Hit (ToP)
SSG Vegito (ToP) vs GoD Toppo
True Golden Freeza vs RoF SSB Goku & Vegeta
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