Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[WittyUsername]

Regarding Goten and Trunks, what even is the timeline for the series at this point?

[Grimlock]

Vegeta's dna is simply more dominate in present Trunks then it was in future Trunks.

That doesn't make sense at all. The exact same thing happened no matter timeline we're talking about, this is not an external factor that changed everything that comes next.

Pretend that their bodies are remaining young because their mental and spiritual energies are lax from a lack of need to do battle. Gohan and Future Trunks were always in high-stress situations, so their bodies more quickly aged to be combat-ready.

I can't pretend that, as I explained a couple of times now, aging is something I appreciate in Dragon Ball, I can't simply make a "headcanon" to explain why present Trunks is still short when he should be taller no matter what.

It's not the most important thing in the world to the production team right now.

Aging was never an important thing but it did happen back then, there is no excuse to get rid of it now.

In fact, they're probably intentionally keeping them young-looking for branding purposes.

I get that, but it's still a problem. The time to keep Goten and Trunks short has long passed now, the nostalgia factor or whatever reason/excuse to portray them like that is no longer working.

[sintzu]

Vegeta's dna is simply more dominate in present Trunks then it was in future Trunks.

That doesn't make sense at all.

Of course it doesn't make sense. The simple and clear answer to why these 2 don't grow up is because the writers want the Buu arc's status quo to remain the default image of DB for as long as possible, regardless of it making sense. Super never stated how much time has passed between arcs (as far as I know) so one way to explain why they haven't grown is that only a year or 2 have passed since the Buu arc and even that's stretching things.

[alakazam^]

Of course it doesn't make sense. The simple and clear answer to why these 2 don't grow up is because the writers want the Buu arc's status quo to remain the default image of DB for as long as possible, regardless of it making sense. Super never stated how much time has passed between arcs (as far as I know) so one way to explain why they haven't grown is that only a year or 2 have passed since the Buu arc and even that's stretching things.

Shenlong was summoned three times so, at least, 3 years have passed from the 6 months after Boo.

[sintzu]

Shenlong was summoned three times so, at least, 3 years have passed from the 6 months after Boo.

Good point. I guess there is no way to explain it in universe then.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Shenlong was summoned three times so, at least, 3 years have passed from the 6 months after Boo.

Good point. I guess there is no way to explain it in universe then.

But hasn't Shenron disappeared on several occasions meaning they don't necessarily had to have waited a year to re-summon him?

[Zelvin]

Shenlong was summoned three times so, at least, 3 years have passed from the 6 months after Boo.

Good point. I guess there is no way to explain it in universe then.

Not unless Dende set the Dragonballs to Namekian years, which is 120days or four months. It really depends and if they don't use all the wish potential then Shenron could be summoned again at an earlier date.

[Grimlock]

Regarding Goten and Trunks, what even is the timeline for the series at this point?

The cast are in late AGE 780. Goten is 13 and Trunks is 14, same age (and year) as future Trunks was when future Gohan died.

Of course it doesn't make sense. The simple and clear answer to why these 2 don't grow up is because the writers want the Buu arc's status quo to remain the default image of DB for as long as possible, regardless of it making sense.

But can't they see that they are not doing anything good and just harming the series in the process because of that?

Super never stated how much time has passed between arcs (as far as I know) so one way to explain why they haven't grown is that only a year or 2 have passed since the Buu arc and even that's stretching things.

Shenlong was summoned during some events as far as I remember, that does tell you, in-universe, that there were a couple of timeskips. Well, there is supplementary information telling you how long was the timeskip.

[ricky84]

I have a strong feeling that Broly will win against Goku and Vegeta (but won't kill them) in the end, leading to a sequel where the U6 saiyans (especially Kale) help them out to take down Broly.

I also have a feeling that Broly will kill Beerus (which would prevent Whis from helping out) in an all out fight as a way to boost tension.

[YamiGoku]

I'm not defending Goten and Trunks for never ageing, but i think they kinda have an excuse of why future and main Trunks aged differently, for once trunks impact on the timeline made vegeta stronger, and one could say made Buu saga trunks stronger or at last give him the ability to turn SSj early, unlike future Trunks who had to work for it; also I may be wrong, but i think other factors like the ambient and the diet can change the way you grow.

[AnimeNation101]

Future Trunks aged normally and so did Gohan.

Yes they did, then why present Trunks doesn't age the same as future Trunks? They have the same biological features, he is the son of the same parents, so it does not make sense this huge difference.

Vegeta's dna is simply more dominate in present Trunks then it was in future Trunks.

Putting the exact same ingredients isn't going to make something come out exactly the same every time especially when you factory in one Trunks had blue hair.

Lol what? That makes no sense. Of course Trunks from the present should be the same as Future Trunks. By the time Trunks was born, the timelines hadn’t changed yet which means basically they were just exact copies of each other. Which means the exact same things happened in both timelines. Even the exact percentage of DNA that Trunks got from Bulma and Vegeta

[YamiGoku]

Yes they did, then why present Trunks doesn't age the same as future Trunks? They have the same biological features, he is the son of the same parents, so it does not make sense this huge difference.

Vegeta's dna is simply more dominate in present Trunks then it was in future Trunks.

Putting the exact same ingredients isn't going to make something come out exactly the same every time especially when you factory in one Trunks had blue hair.

Lol what? That makes no sense. Of course Trunks from the present should be the same as Future Trunks. By the time Trunks was born, the timelines hadn’t changed yet which means basically they were just exact copies of each other. Which means the exact same things happened in both timelines. Even the exact percentage of DNA that Trunks got from Bulma and Vegeta

https://youtu.be/KuZwa_VGXKw?t=939

is this a bad translation? if trunks appeared 2 years before he was born then he changed the timeline before he was conceived?

[Cetra]

Trunks never split the timeline (at least not when people think he did as in "he was responsible for the earliest split") and this rumor needs to die. Cell arrived before Trunks did. Cell split the timeline and that is why Trunks even wonders how the timeline is so different before he finds the second time machine. He realizes "oh, this guy came before I did ..." It is literally a mathematical wonder that another Trunks was conceived (of course not from the perspective of the story because Toriyama-san simply did not think about it and introduced Cell later). The first chronological difference was "Did Cell arrive? Yes/No" and thus he initiated the splitting event. Trunks literally jumped onto a timeline that was already another branch than the one he came from.

[alakazam^]

Lol what? That makes no sense. Of course Trunks from the present should be the same as Future Trunks. By the time Trunks was born, the timelines hadn’t changed yet which means basically they were just exact copies of each other. Which means the exact same things happened in both timelines. Even the exact percentage of DNA that Trunks got from Bulma and Vegeta

Actually, it's fair to consider present Trunks has more S-cells than future Trunks.

[Oracle]

Some cool new posters of characters from the film:
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This also confirms that Goten and Trunks are in it! They somehow look younger, though. Especially Trunks.

Do you mind if I share a HQ? Here:
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[Lord Beerus]

Poor Goten and Trunks.

Forever stuck as toddlers.

[AnimeNation101]

Lol what? That makes no sense. Of course Trunks from the present should be the same as Future Trunks. By the time Trunks was born, the timelines hadn’t changed yet which means basically they were just exact copies of each other. Which means the exact same things happened in both timelines. Even the exact percentage of DNA that Trunks got from Bulma and Vegeta

Actually, it's fair to consider present Trunks has more S-cells than future Trunks.

Yeah but that has nothing to do with growth

[miguelnuva1]

Yes they did, then why present Trunks doesn't age the same as future Trunks? They have the same biological features, he is the son of the same parents, so it does not make sense this huge difference.

Vegeta's dna is simply more dominate in present Trunks then it was in future Trunks.

Putting the exact same ingredients isn't going to make something come out exactly the same every time especially when you factory in one Trunks had blue hair.

Lol what? That makes no sense. Of course Trunks from the present should be the same as Future Trunks. By the time Trunks was born, the timelines hadn’t changed yet which means basically they were just exact copies of each other. Which means the exact same things happened in both timelines. Even the exact percentage of DNA that Trunks got from Bulma and Vegeta

Future Trunks himself stated that he and present Trunks are not 1:1 the same person. Vegeta for one is arguably stronger for one thing going into Trunks's conception in the present timeline producing a stronger child with different hair color.

Fiction changes kids all the time like this such as Chibiusa from sailor moon and even the future sonic the hedgehog going from having a son and a daughter with a couple years between them with Sally in one timeline to Sally having the same kids as twins in another timeline.

[Kanassa]

Huh, Piccolo got his own poster.

[Grimlock]

Future Trunks himself stated that he and present Trunks are not 1:1 the same person.

Are you referring to Dragon Ball Super where future Trunks talks with present Trunks? If so, you may want to rewatch again, because future Trunks clearly says "biologically we're the same". The difference future Trunks mentions here is external issue, events caused by unnatural forces, it does not have anything to do with who they are internally. While present Trunks lives in a X world, future Trunks lives in a Y world.