sintzu wrote:Bring back every other popular villain and make them "good" guys just to keep selling their merchandise ?
Outside of Cell there is no popular villain to bring back
Cell is mainly popular in the West, not Japan. That's why Cell doesn't seem to get much coverage and merchandise in things like Dragonball Heroes. Toei and Bandai doesn't seem to care much about what oversees DB fans like, so I doubt they wold bring back Cell.
Cooler on the other hand has a high chance of coming to canon. He's already getting much spotlight in DB Heroes and he always had big Japanese fanbase.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
sintzu wrote:Bring back every other popular villain and make them "good" guys just to keep selling their merchandise ?
Outside of Cell there is no popular villain to bring back
Cell is mainly popular in the West, not Japan. That's why Cell doesn't seem to get much coverage and merchandise in things like Dragonball Heroes. Toei and Bandai doesn't seem to care much about what oversees DB fans like, so I doubt they wold bring back Cell.
Cooler on the other hand has a high chance of coming to canon. He's already getting much spotlight in DB Heroes and he always had big Japanese fanbase.
They did say the dragon ball room takes into account the international market so the potential is there, even if it's not as high as someone popular in Japan.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Tyestor wrote:How many dicks do I have to suck to get Dimps to make another 3D Budokai-esque game again? My patience is seriously starting to wear thin with these new DB games.
budokaifanatic007 wrote:So no sign of news from the V-Jump ?
If there was anything it would've leaked a few days ago with everything else. I'm not surprised as there are still 3 months worth of V-Jump they can use so it makes sense to spread things out and line them up with the movie's release date. We'll for sure get something next month.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.
budokaifanatic007 wrote:So no sign of news from the V-Jump ?
They just published some Broly designs we had already seen. Nothing new in it, unfortunately. They still hold back Golden Freeza’s full design, God Vegeta’s, Vegeta in his Buu arc clothes, front shots of Blue Goku and God Goku and Bulma full designs for some reason.
悟 “Vincit qui se vincit”
What I consider canonical
Spoiler:
Dragon Ball Manga
Jaco: The Galactic Patrolman
Yo! Son Goku and Friends Return
Additional lore from Toriyama
Dragon Ball Daima
Bold new direction yet can't be arsed to use a song from Super but fall back on Cha-La yet again.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
ekrolo2 wrote:Bold new direction yet can't be arsed to use a song from Super but fall back on Cha-La yet again.
I don't think Cha-La's going to be the theme, though. In Herms' tweet, Anyumu Yahaba says that it's an instrumental from Sumitomo just with the chorus. I'm guessing it's music for the title of the film, similar to how Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F's titles had Cha-La playing in the background just with the chorus.
ekrolo2 wrote:Bold new direction yet can't be arsed to use a song from Super but fall back on Cha-La yet again.
I don't think Cha-La's going to be the theme, though. In Herms' tweet, Anyumu Yahaba says that it's an instrumental from Sumitomo just with the chorus. I'm guessing it's music for the title of the film, similar to how Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F's titles had Cha-La playing in the background just with the chorus.
My point stands: it's a Super film, make music for it and leave Z shit behind. But that's a moot point since Broly is the focus this time around so any real attempt at a new direction was dead a long time ago. Fuck, might as well fire Sumitomo and just recycle Kikuchi for extra pandering points.
And before someone throws the ever stupid "you haven't seen the film yet!" argument, if your movie is bringing back a raging moron from the past, says it's doing something different with him then spends the entire big reveal trailer showing him acting like the exact same raging moron of the past, your message has less credibility than EAs.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
ekrolo2 wrote:Bold new direction yet can't be arsed to use a song from Super but fall back on Cha-La yet again.
I don't think Cha-La's going to be the theme, though. In Herms' tweet, Anyumu Yahaba says that it's an instrumental from Sumitomo just with the chorus. I'm guessing it's music for the title of the film, similar to how Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F's titles had Cha-La playing in the background just with the chorus.
My point stands: it's a Super film, make music for it and leave Z shit behind. But that's a moot point since Broly is the focus this time around so any real attempt at a new direction was dead a long time ago. Fuck, might as well fire Sumitomo and just recycle Kikuchi for extra pandering points.
You'd be surprised by the amount of people that actually want that to happen.
Super Saiyan Swagger wrote:
I don't think Cha-La's going to be the theme, though. In Herms' tweet, Anyumu Yahaba says that it's an instrumental from Sumitomo just with the chorus. I'm guessing it's music for the title of the film, similar to how Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F's titles had Cha-La playing in the background just with the chorus.
My point stands: it's a Super film, make music for it and leave Z shit behind. But that's a moot point since Broly is the focus this time around so any real attempt at a new direction was dead a long time ago. Fuck, might as well fire Sumitomo and just recycle Kikuchi for extra pandering points.
You'd be surprised by the amount of people that actually want that to happen.
I'm fully aware of how low people's standards are for Dragon Ball.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
budokaifanatic007 wrote:So no sign of news from the V-Jump ?
If there was anything it would've leaked a few days ago with everything else. I'm not surprised as there are still 3 months worth of V-Jump they can use so it makes sense to spread things out and line them up with the movie's release date. We'll for sure get something next month.
My guess:
September: The rest of the DB cast that are in the film.
October: More details on the god forms and Golden Freeza.
November: The big reveal of the mystery characters, with designs and screenshots from the film.
December: Since the film would have already opened at this point probably more designs or just talking about spoilers.
Leaks aside SSGSS Goku didn't get formally revealed until basically a week before the film but that was in Weekly Jump I don't think we've had a big reveal since then in that magazine? But since the Ichiban Kuji is scheduled for beginning of December means they're not gonna cut the big reveal close this time unfortunately. With still no news about the film in the UK I am not sure it's worth me avoiding stuff for the movie, hopefully Toei Europe pull their finger out soon...
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:November: The big reveal of the mystery characters, with designs and screenshots from the film.
December: Since the film would have already opened at this point probably more designs or just talking about spoilers.
Wouldn't it make more sense to save the mystery characters for December after the movie opens ? I assume spoiling everything will cost them some people not rushing out to see it which will hurt its box office numbers.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:November: The big reveal of the mystery characters, with designs and screenshots from the film.
December: Since the film would have already opened at this point probably more designs or just talking about spoilers.
Wouldn't it make more sense to save the mystery characters for December after the movie opens ? I assume spoiling everything will cost them some people not rushing out to see it which will hurt its box office numbers.
Judging by the way I've seen lots of anime movies blatantly spoil events I think it's fair to say Japan doesn't care about this stuff the way we do.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
I'm always up for new music, so the possibility of just more Cha-La is disappointing. It'd be one less music track for me to buy. Also doesn't help that I've never been that big on the song in the first place.
I'll hope it's only for the soundtrack and not the actual opening theme.
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:November: The big reveal of the mystery characters, with designs and screenshots from the film.
December: Since the film would have already opened at this point probably more designs or just talking about spoilers.
Wouldn't it make more sense to save the mystery characters for December after the movie opens ? I assume spoiling everything will cost them some people not rushing out to see it which will hurt its box office numbers.
Logically one would assume so, but unfortunately the Ichiban Kuji that contains the two new "super secret" characters is scheduled for early December... which means they will have to be formally revealed before hand. Bandai Spirits have revealed their full December Ichiban Kuji schedule and Dragon Ball is one of the first to be released, likely 8th December since 1st I feel is too early.
Japan loves spoiling crap, look at mastered UI couldn't help themselves but to ruin it just before March in Feb's Vjump so that is why I think they'll do the same for this movie and ruin the big secret characters in November's Vjump.
Baggie_Saiyan wrote:November: The big reveal of the mystery characters, with designs and screenshots from the film.
December: Since the film would have already opened at this point probably more designs or just talking about spoilers.
Wouldn't it make more sense to save the mystery characters for December after the movie opens ? I assume spoiling everything will cost them some people not rushing out to see it which will hurt its box office numbers.
Logically one would assume so, but unfortunately the Ichiban Kuji that contains the two new "super secret" characters is scheduled for early December... which means they will have to be formally revealed before hand. Bandai Spirits have revealed their full December Ichiban Kuji schedule and Dragon Ball is one of the first to be released, likely 8th December since 1st I feel is too early.
Japan loves spoiling crap, look at mastered UI couldn't help themselves but to ruin it just before March in Feb's Vjump so that is why I think they'll do the same for this movie and ruin the big secret characters in November's Vjump.
Look at it like this. If they reveal Gogeta Blue, that will just make people HAVE to pre-order their tickets.
But i think ur wrong on the December thing. Does ANYBODY remember JUMP FESTA!!? You know, the event where the biggest Dragon Ball news is revealed most of the time?
I fully expect either an announcement of DBS coming back, a trailer advertising the next arc in the manga (as I'm sure it will continue after adapting the Broly movie), or whatever else is up next for the DB series as a whole. And the V-Jump scan will probably cover stuff about that
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I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie.
"I don't think I'm a hero of justice or anythin'. But those who'd hurt my friends... I won't forgive!"
AnimeNation101 wrote:Does ANYBODY remember JUMP FSETA!!? You know, the event where the biggest Dragon Ball news is revealed most of the time?
I forgot about it. It would be the prefect place to announce the anime's return as the movie will just be coming out so they'll keep people on the hype train.
July 9th 2018 will be remembered as the day Broly became canon.
