Red and Black in Saiyaman saga?

TheTET · Post by **TheTET** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:21 pm

I remember that a General Red and "Cut-man"(Sorry for bad English!) black in Saiyaman saga was it a filler or canon characters?

bkev · Post by **bkev** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:25 pm

Re-used character designs, most likely. Are you talking about the circus performers/managers?

TheTET · Post by **TheTET** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:26 pm

Nope. They made a Great Saiyaman movie.

SSJ3raditz · Post by **SSJ3raditz** » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:52 pm

I remember that!

I also remember that the Farmer that Raditz killed in the 1st episode of DBZ made a cameo when Saiyaman/Gohan was flying to somewhere to tell somebody that Goku was coming back from Heaven.

I think he was headed to Roshi's Island. Not sure yet.

mister yummy · Post by **mister yummy** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:43 pm

Radditz couldn't have killed the Farmer, as he appears several other times.

Isn't that Nappa that Videl fights in the Saiyaman arc?

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:05 pm

mister yummy wrote:Radditz couldn't have killed the Farmer, as he appears several other times.

Isn't that Nappa that Videl fights in the Saiyaman arc?

Nah, the farmer died. They just reused his design (just as they did with Red and Black and countless unnamed extras). And no, that big guy Videl fights is taller than Nappa and has a different face and stuff.

FindKenshi · Post by **FindKenshi** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 8:01 pm

Actually, the farmer darkels through time and space, like Flagg from the Stephen King universe. He exists in every era, a mysterious figure of enormous power. He also survived a direct blast from Number 20, during a filler scene. He is ki blasted but ends up only hanging upside down from a tree, asking Krillin for help.

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:27 pm

Actually, if I recall correctly, we don't know if the farmer died or not... in the anime. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't we just see the bullet go through his gun in the anime? Because in the manga, he is clearly hit and bleeding. But I remember going through the scene frame by frame and not seeing any indication that he'd died.

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:40 pm

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:Actually, if I recall correctly, we don't know if the farmer died or not... in the anime. Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't we just see the bullet go through his gun in the anime? Because in the manga, he is clearly hit and bleeding. But I remember going through the scene frame by frame and not seeing any indication that he'd died.

In the anime the bullet goes through his chest as blood spurts out knocking him back into his truck which has the same bullet hole through it. You may be thinking of the Ocean dub where it appeared as though the bullet threw off his gun off and knocked him into his truck as he stated "Ow that smarts!"

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:27 pm

That can't be, as I was watching the first Ultimate Uncut DVD. I specifically remember seeing the bullet go through his gun, but I don't remember if I saw blood. Someone produce screenshots!

NeptuneKai · Post by **NeptuneKai** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:35 pm

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:That can't be, as I was watching the first Ultimate Uncut DVD. I specifically remember seeing the bullet go through his gun, but I don't remember if I saw blood. Someone produce screenshots!

Actually I just checked up on the scene and you were right it knocks his gun away and there was no blood but you clearly see the bullet wound him. I was thinking of the manga.