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Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 7:37 pm

I was re-reading the Viz-translated version of the Boo arc recently, and noticed that in one panel, Trunks outright calls Boo a "genie", fully anglicized, when talking about how his father can't lose to him. This in addition to Viz translating "Majin" as "Djinn" to begin with. That seemed a bit weird to me in how direct it was, and got me wondering what their reasoning was for going with "genie" in that panel instead of "djinn" (they mean the same thing, but the average American child reading the comic would have a mental image of "genie" that they don't have for "djinn", which they would probably have first heard in reference to Boo, and the translators were surely aware of that). While looking around, I came across one of Kanzenshuu's many translated Toriyama interviews. In it, he seemingly confirms that Boo is either a genie, or at the very least, based on one:
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Is the appearance of Majin Boo inspired by the Arabian-style majin, or “genie”? His clothes seem to have a sort of Arabian fairy-tale style. Or were you thinking of a different kind of “majin”?

Right. I saw The Arabian Nights when I was a kid, so I have this set image of what a majin, or genie, should look like. So that’s how I came to put him in that costume.
Here we have Toriyama saying that Boo was designed as not only a "majin", often translated to genie in English, but specifically a genie (I presume he used the English word?). Seemingly using them interchangeably. I had always noticed the djinn/genie influences in Boo's design, particularly in his introduction where he materialized from smoke, but I had never made the connection before that this was what he was supposed to be. I just assumed he took design cues from one while being his own thing; similar to how Darth Vader's outfit is based on samurai armor, and he also uses a sword and has a title of nobility, but he himself is not literally a pop culture depiction of a samurai. Or how Saiyans turn into hairy, rampaging, humanoid beasts after looking at a full moon, but weren't literally supposed to be werewolves. But reviewing Boo's attributes, him being just an outright genie does seem to fit and makes me feel stupid that I haven't made the connection before now:

-Boo is introduced as being extraordinarily long-lived, millions of years old at the least. Djinns are supposed to have extremely long lifespans compared to humans, which makes them useful for revealing information from the past.

-As noted earlier, Boo is introduced as sealed in a ball and materializing from smoke when released, much like a djinn/genie.

-As noted, his appearance and clothing are stylistically Arabic, especially in his first form. His clothing is also similar to the "majin of the teapot", a more explicit genie, from Toriyama's earlier work Dr. Slump.

-Boo is initially summoned by an evil sorcerer to do his bidding. In Arabian tradition, a djinn could be summoned by a sorcerer via witchcraft and forced to perform orders. Sometimes they'd be bound via incantation, similar to how Babidi binds Boo to his will by threatening to seal him with his own "paparapapa". They'd often tell the djinns to use their magical powers to inflict harm on a chosen victim, like how Babidi compels Boo to go after his own enemies. It may also be a reference to how Ifrits can be defeated by someone reciting a Du'a.

-In Arabian folklore the Ifrit, the most powerful of the djinns, are summoned to Earth by the life-force (or blood) of a murdered victim seeking revenge on the murderer. Babidi's method of reviving Boo is centered around making his demon-like warriors kill or wound morally good people, effectively draining the life-force (chi) of them to summon his djinn. In Arabian Nights, one story features a being referred to as both a djinn and an Ifrit who has powers of transmutation and shapeshifting, but is easily tricked by the protagonist.

-In another bit of Arabian Nights influence and reference to genies, Babidi's incantation is based on "Paparapah", which was featured in the Japanese version of the American cartoon Shazzan, in which the titular demon would say that before using his magic. (as an aside, maybe Buu's head tentacle was based on Shazzan's pony tail?)

-Boo, in addition to being conventionally powerful, has very potent magic allowing him to do things other characters cannot despite their power, such as transmutate objects (e.g. turning people into food), shapeshift, and heal people (including curing blindness). These are all abilities typical of djinns in Arabian folklore; and, consistent with Boo being naturally extremely powerful independent of his magic, djinns were supposed to be stronger and faster than humans (though by nowhere near as much as Boo, obviously).

-Boo's grey "evil" form calls to mind images of a ghoul, which in some folklore is a corrupted djinn.

-In Arabian tradition, djinns were created by God before the humans, but were eventually corrupted. This goes along with Toriyama's new explanation of Boo, who is now a creature that has existed since time immemorial and has been corrupted by the evil thoughts of humanity.

-Despite their immense magical powers and nature as spirits, djinn are not completely immortal, and in Arabian Nights can be done-in by physical means. This is also true for Boo even if he's considerably harder to kill.

Would you call Boo a genie, or just a creature unique to Toriyama's work who has the attributes of one? If, for example, someone was writing a paper about the representation of genies in fiction, would Boo be a valid example to cite? I don't think anyone would hesitate to call Baba's fighters a mummy, a vampire, and a devil, for instance, even if they don't perfectly fit the profile.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by MyVisionity » Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:13 pm

The problem I have with calling Boo an outright "Djinn" or "Genie" is that his name is written as 魔人 "majin" instead of 魔神 "majin"/"mashin". I thought that genies were usually referred to with the latter designation. Maybe that's not always the case?

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Re: Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:20 pm

MyVisionity wrote:The problem I have with calling Boo an outright "Djinn" or "Genie" is that his name is written as 魔人 "majin" instead of 魔神 "majin"/"mashin". I thought that genies were usually referred to with the latter designation. Maybe that's not always the case?
Herms stated that the term used to refer to Boo is the same one used to refer to the genie from Aladdin, so I was kinda basing it off that. Not sure how accurate he was though.
Herms wrote:To reuse some of my earlier explanations, a 魔人/majin (literally a magical or demonic person), is a general Japanese term for beings from mythology or fiction who possess strong magical powers and other abilities that far surpass that of ordinary people. The term is often used in Japanese to refer to the jinn (genie) of Arabian folklore, or the Hindu asura, while the “genie of the lamp” from the story of Aladdin is commonly called the “majin of the lamp” in Japanese.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by MyVisionity » Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:44 pm

If, for example, someone was writing a paper about the representation of genies in fiction, would Boo be a valid example to cite?
Regardless of whether or not Boo is supposed to be genie, I think it would definitely be valid to cite the character as a representation of Djinn. The attributes are unmistakable, like you said.

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Re: Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:23 am

TBH other than sporting vaguely Arabic clothing and being sealed inside an object for a long period of time I don't really see many connections.
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Re: Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by Desassina » Sun Aug 26, 2018 4:05 am

Considering the family of names based on spells:
  1. (Abra Kadabra) Dabra
  2. Bibidi, Bobidi, Boo
  3. (Hocus) Pocus
I would dare say that Majin could be genie for Boo, but what does that make of Majin Vegeta, even if the name went without a mention in the story?

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Re: Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by linkdude20002001 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 6:27 am

Like you said, "Majin Vegeta" isn't mentiond in the series. It's entirely a fan-made term. Tho, maybe the games do? I don't remember.
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Re: Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by KBABZ » Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:21 am

Considering Trunks' age, it also wouldn't be out of the question for him to use the word Genie in a derogatory nature, similar to how Frieza calls Saiyans simians or monkeys as an insult. Where exactly did he say it in the manga, and under what context?

Another connection to Genie that I noticed: Buu can reform himself from smoke, similar to how a genie would emerge from a lamp as smoke first.

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Re: Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by Majin Buu » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:36 am

In terms of specifically describing just what Buu is as an entity, I think genie works as it would be in line with the "magical" part of the definition of "majin", though I would not be in favor using it instead of "majin" in an English translation since that would only be getting at half of Buu's nature since he's really both magical and demonic in nature.

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Re: Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by TheGreatness25 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:43 am

Boo can also magically transform objects into food.

It's not that I'm arguing that Boo isn't a genie, but I am curious as to why they didn't go with "Majin." This is a translation that uses "Kamesennin," "Muten Roshi," "Genki Dama," and even refers to the Dragon Balls by their Japanese names when introducing them. Then you come across a layup like "Majin" and this is the one they want to get creative with. Then Vegerot. Well, as idiotic as I think "Vegerot" is, at least there's some sort of reasoning behind it. I fail to see the reasoning behind changing "Majin." Even Funimation left that one alone.

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Re: Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 6:19 pm

KBABZ wrote:Considering Trunks' age, it also wouldn't be out of the question for him to use the word Genie in a derogatory nature, similar to how Frieza calls Saiyans simians or monkeys as an insult. Where exactly did he say it in the manga, and under what context?

Another connection to Genie that I noticed: Buu can reform himself from smoke, similar to how a genie would emerge from a lamp as smoke first.
There are actually several examples of characters calling him a genie in Viz's version. Here's one:
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TheGreatness25 wrote: It's not that I'm arguing that Boo isn't a genie, but I am curious as to why they didn't go with "Majin." This is a translation that uses "Kamesennin," "Muten Roshi," "Genki Dama," and even refers to the Dragon Balls by their Japanese names when introducing them. Then you come across a layup like "Majin" and this is the one they want to get creative with. Then Vegerot. Well, as idiotic as I think "Vegerot" is, at least there's some sort of reasoning behind it. I fail to see the reasoning behind changing "Majin."
Probably because, in context, to Viz "Majin" clearly means "djinn/genie", in much the same way the blue guy from Aladdin was called a majin in Japanese.
Majin Buu wrote:In terms of specifically describing just what Buu is as an entity, I think genie works as it would be in line with the "magical" part of the definition of "majin", though I would not be in favor using it instead of "majin" in an English translation since that would only be getting at half of Buu's nature since he's really both magical and demonic in nature.
Buu isn't necessarily demonic at all; the "ma" in "majin" can mean either magic or demonic, but from the context (Boo himself and all of Babidi's minions being named after magical incantations, plus Babidi himself being a wizard) it seems pretty clear that "magic" was the intended meaning.
Polyphase Avatron wrote:TBH other than sporting vaguely Arabic clothing and being sealed inside an object for a long period of time I don't really see many connections.
Other than sporting Arabic clothing, being explicitly modeled after a genie, being sealed inside an object, materializing from smoke, being extremely long-lived, having magical powers such as shapeshifting and transmutation, being summoned by a sorcerer to serve him, being bound to the sorcerer by an incantation, being summoned to Earth by draining peoples' life force, having an evil corrupted grey form, and about a dozen other things?
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by Majin Buu » Sun Aug 26, 2018 7:44 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Buu isn't necessarily demonic at all; the "ma" in "majin" can mean either magic or demonic
That's what I was getting at when I said Buu is both magical and demonic in nature. Both definitions of the word "majin" fit him.

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Re: Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by MyVisionity » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:35 pm

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RandomGuy96 wrote:Buu isn't necessarily demonic at all; the "ma" in "majin" can mean either magic or demonic
That's what I was getting at when I said Buu is both magical and demonic in nature. Both definitions of the word "majin" fit him.
Demons are "magical" by nature. In other words, majin in its broadest sense refers to magical beings, of which may include those who are evil (demons). 魔 (ma) can mean evil, magical, or demonic depending on the context. In fact, I think that "evil" was the original meaning of ma and that it gradually came to encompass "magic" as well, given the perception of magic in many cultures.

Also, Djinn/Genies are often referred to as demons themselves. So if you can call Boo a genie, you can call him everything else as well.

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Re: Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by KBABZ » Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:47 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:
KBABZ wrote:Considering Trunks' age, it also wouldn't be out of the question for him to use the word Genie in a derogatory nature, similar to how Frieza calls Saiyans simians or monkeys as an insult. Where exactly did he say it in the manga, and under what context?

Another connection to Genie that I noticed: Buu can reform himself from smoke, similar to how a genie would emerge from a lamp as smoke first.
There are actually several examples of characters calling him a genie in Viz's version. Here's one:
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Oh yeah I remember that from Kai actually, although they didn't call him a genie. I forgot what it was exactly, but it was definitely played as a case of "hey let's go to the theme park and see the cool guy there!" "What was he called again?" "I dunno, a genie I guess? Let's go with genie". Something like that, two kids who couldn't come up with a better name for it and just stuck with it. It'd be interesting to see if any of the adults referred to him as that.

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Re: Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:16 pm

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KBABZ wrote:Considering Trunks' age, it also wouldn't be out of the question for him to use the word Genie in a derogatory nature, similar to how Frieza calls Saiyans simians or monkeys as an insult. Where exactly did he say it in the manga, and under what context?

Another connection to Genie that I noticed: Buu can reform himself from smoke, similar to how a genie would emerge from a lamp as smoke first.
There are actually several examples of characters calling him a genie in Viz's version. Here's one:
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Oh yeah I remember that from Kai actually, although they didn't call him a genie. I forgot what it was exactly, but it was definitely played as a case of "hey let's go to the theme park and see the cool guy there!" "What was he called again?" "I dunno, a genie I guess? Let's go with genie". Something like that, two kids who couldn't come up with a better name for it and just stuck with it. It'd be interesting to see if any of the adults referred to him as that.
Well, "djinn" and "genie" literally mean the same thing. It's more about why Viz chose to use "genie" specifically than the in-universe characters.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by MyVisionity » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:34 pm

I mean "Djinn" sounds like "Majin", so maybe they just thought to use that term since Boo was clearly based off of genies.

I still can't get past Toriyama using 人 (being) instead of 神 (spirit/god). I feel like if he had wanted to make Boo a Djinn explicitly, he would have either used the "spirit" kanji or had the characters or narrator refer to Boo with the English/Arabic term at least once somewhere. Or make a direct reference to genies in fiction regarding Boo.

I get that 魔人 can be used to describe genies, I just wonder if it isn't a little too broad of a term to use for a character if the intent is for the audience to think "genie".

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Re: Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by KBABZ » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:26 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Well, "djinn" and "genie" literally mean the same thing. It's more about why Viz chose to use "genie" specifically than the in-universe characters.
That's kinda what I'm getting at I suppose; I think ViZ chose genie for Trunks because it makes it look like he can't come up with a better name for what he's hearing about.

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Re: Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by Cetra » Sun Aug 26, 2018 11:38 pm

He is both. He is an "evil entity" and a "magical entity" and as herms himself says you can be considered a jinn already for just being an extraordinarly powerful magical entity without being a lamp ghost thing. So if by "Jinn" you just mean ridiculously powerful magical person, then yeah. Same for incredibly evil (or for what its worth "demonic", as that is also often compared,) person, what Boo originally was, because, boy, that guy was evil. If
Junko Iwamoto-Seebeck who is a native Japanese speaker and translated the German manga considered him a Dämon (demon) and her Japanese is a lot better than mine (I would have known that as well but this is more a case of "how would they think") then I trust her.
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Re: Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Mon Aug 27, 2018 9:34 am

linkdude20002001 wrote:Like you said, "Majin Vegeta" isn't mentiond in the series. It's entirely a fan-made term. Tho, maybe the games do? I don't remember.
Interestingly merchandise labels him as either "超サイヤ人 破壊王子ベジータ" which google translates to "Super Saiyan Destruction Prince Vegeta" or flat out "魔人ベジータ"

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Re: Should Boo be considered a genie?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Tue Aug 28, 2018 1:15 am

Cetra wrote:He is both. He is an "evil entity" and a "magical entity" and as herms himself says you can be considered a jinn already for just being an extraordinarly powerful magical entity without being a lamp ghost thing. So if by "Jinn" you just mean ridiculously powerful magical person, then yeah. Same for incredibly evil (or for what its worth "demonic", as that is also often compared,) person, what Boo originally was, because, boy, that guy was evil. If
Junko Iwamoto-Seebeck who is a native Japanese speaker and translated the German manga considered him a Dämon (demon) and her Japanese is a lot better than mine (I would have known that as well but this is more a case of "how would they think") then I trust her.
The pure good Boo that becomes part of the main cast is still called "Majin Boo", so I really do think that the "magical-being" interpretation of his title makes more sense than the evil/"demon-being" one.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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