mahakaishin1991 wrote:
Toriyama outright stated he has siblings, though he probably doesnt care about or even know them
I know he's got one sibling and that's a sister.
He's also got two kids and the only way I remember which is older is he had the son around when Gohan first appeared and the daughter around when Marron, Pan, and Bra appeared.
Bardock has a sister? link plz
kudo6000 wrote:
mahakaishin1991 wrote:
Chuquita wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if Bardock has at least one sibling. They gave both Bulma and Vegeta one in recent history.
Toriyama outright stated he has siblings, though he probably doesnt care about or even know them
He said he “probably” has siblings.
Also, where was it confirmed that Bardock has a sister?
Toriyama has a sister. I didn't mean Bardock. Sorry to have confused.
Bardock doesn't have any siblings as far as I know.
Mnich wrote:But Vegetto works different than Gogeta. Potara fusion is also a fusion of clothes while dance fusion gives us metamoran clothes which should stay the same. Once in DBH Gogeta had the same clothes but with different color.
Exactly. If Gogeta looked different than the way we know him then it would create problems with consistency
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Super carries on much of Dragon Ball and Z's charm in ways that might not immediately be obvious, while also bringing something new to the table. I certainly can't think of any previous arcs like Goku Black, and, for all its problems, the Tournament of Power is possibly the most ambitious storytelling endeavor in series history as far as how its narrative unfolds. It's also a thrill ride, which is all I wanted and exactly what I got. Super also canonizes decades old fan theories in ways that very naturally tie into the overall fabric of Dragon Ball's world in satisfying ways. All in all, Dragon Ball, Z, and Super are all well worth experiencing.
Well you could alter the design somewhat since, like Broly, he's not part of any main series. But it would still be limited.
He is always going to have the same cloths, they could be a different colour but really the one he already had was perfect. The only other thing is maybe show his base forms hair and make it a bit more like Goku's. Other then that you cannot alter much.
Bergamo wrote:Why do people even act like Raditz should have ever been more relevant than he was. Raditz and Nappa simply didn't have a reason to stay around longer than they did.
Nappa was just Vegeta's thug, Raditz is the brother of the main protagonist, he should've been more relevant than just a character who served its purpose for exposition and nothing else besides an insignificant cameo on GT.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Bergamo wrote:Why do people even act like Raditz should have ever been more relevant than he was. Raditz and Nappa simply didn't have a reason to stay around longer than they did.
Nappa was just Vegeta's thug, Raditz is the brother of the main protagonist, he should've been more relevant than just a character who served its purpose for exposition and nothing else besides an insignificant cameo on GT.
Agree. He is the brother of Goku and also he have an awesome design!
On the subject of fusion, I don't think Super's Goku and Vegeta would find it that hard to do.
The Metamoran Fusion is not just about doing the dance, thats actually the easy part. It's about knowing your fusion partner, knowing how they move, moving with them in equal step and keeping your powers in tune with and at the same level as eachother. In Z and GT Goku and Vegeta do no spend a lot of time together, and while they know eachother pretty well and can do all this stuff pretty naturally they can still mess up as with Movie 12. In GT they already knew how to get it right but didn't know about the time limit being reduced.
The pair in Super have spent the last few years of their life training together with Whis pretty often and have worked well as a pair on multiple occasions, all be it not always perfectly as with Jiren. They are also know aware befor hand that SSB is going to pretty heavily affect their fusion time limit thanks to their battle with Zamasu.
I think if Gogeta is in, the pair are actually in a pretty good position to pull off the fusion first try and not let it go to waste after.
Lord Frieza wrote:On the subject of fusion, I don't think Super's Goku and Vegeta would find it that hard to do.
The Metamoran Fusion is not just about doing the dance, thats actually the easy part. It's about knowing your fusion partner, knowing how they move, moving with them in equal step and keeping your powers in tune with and at the same level as eachother. In Z and GT Goku and Vegeta do no spend a lot of time together, and while they know eachother pretty well and can do all this stuff pretty naturally they can still mess up as with Movie 12. In GT they already knew how to get it right but didn't know about the time limit being reduced.
The pair in Super have spent the last few years of their life training together with Whis pretty often and have worked well as a pair on multiple occasions, all be it not always perfectly as with Jiren. They are also know aware befor hand that SSB is going to pretty heavily affect their fusion time limit thanks to their battle with Zamasu.
I think if Gogeta is in, the pair are actually in a pretty good position to pull off the fusion first try and not let it go to waste after.
I'm pretty sure they will ignore most of those conditions and do it first try perfectly, Dragonball was never consistent on rules or established requirements
Agreed. Just look at how many times characters fight in space no problem. The only time not being able to breathe in space is important is when the plot demands it, like with Frieza on Namek. Likewise, time constraints won't equate to time on screen and may not even be acknowledged unless it serves the plot.
This movie better be the point where Goku and Vegeta finally find out the truth about Beerus' role in the destruction of Planet Vegeta. This could lead to the Z-fighters turning against Beerus (they may still like Whis though) and Broly killing him in an all out battle.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
ricky84 wrote:This movie better be the point where Goku and Vegeta finally find out the truth about Beerus' role in the destruction of Planet Vegeta. This could lead to the Z-fighters turning against Beerus (they may still like Whis though) and Broly killing him in an all out battle.
Why would any of the z fighters besides maybe vegeta care about Beerus’ role in that though? Hell, didn’t goku flat out tell freeza that the saiyans got what was coming to them?
ricky84 wrote:This movie better be the point where Goku and Vegeta finally find out the truth about Beerus' role in the destruction of Planet Vegeta. This could lead to the Z-fighters turning against Beerus (they may still like Whis though) and Broly killing him in an all out battle.
Why would any of the z fighters besides maybe vegeta care about Beerus’ role in that though? Hell, didn’t goku flat out tell freeza that the saiyans got what was coming to them?
Yeah Goku would not care at all whatsoever and even Vegetas caring is up for debate.
But BROLY depending on how the new character is could be angry about it
Spoiler:
Super carries on much of Dragon Ball and Z's charm in ways that might not immediately be obvious, while also bringing something new to the table. I certainly can't think of any previous arcs like Goku Black, and, for all its problems, the Tournament of Power is possibly the most ambitious storytelling endeavor in series history as far as how its narrative unfolds. It's also a thrill ride, which is all I wanted and exactly what I got. Super also canonizes decades old fan theories in ways that very naturally tie into the overall fabric of Dragon Ball's world in satisfying ways. All in all, Dragon Ball, Z, and Super are all well worth experiencing.
ricky84 wrote:This movie better be the point where Goku and Vegeta finally find out the truth about Beerus' role in the destruction of Planet Vegeta. This could lead to the Z-fighters turning against Beerus (they may still like Whis though) and Broly killing him in an all out battle.
Why would any of the z fighters besides maybe vegeta care about Beerus’ role in that though? Hell, didn’t goku flat out tell freeza that the saiyans got what was coming to them?
When did he say that?
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
ricky84 wrote:This movie better be the point where Goku and Vegeta finally find out the truth about Beerus' role in the destruction of Planet Vegeta. This could lead to the Z-fighters turning against Beerus (they may still like Whis though) and Broly killing him in an all out battle.
Why would any of the z fighters besides maybe vegeta care about Beerus’ role in that though? Hell, didn’t goku flat out tell freeza that the saiyans got what was coming to them?
Yeah Goku would not care at all whatsoever and even Vegetas caring is up for debate.
But BROLY depending on how the new character is could be angry about it
Considering his reaction to the U6 saiyans in general and his entire motivation in the ToP, he most likely would care. And people tend to forgot that Goku started feeling racial pride after Vegeta's dying speech on Namek and Goku's internal monologue in the Namek arc (one of my favorite scenes in the entire franchise): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7fefchnUNY
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
ricky84 wrote:This movie better be the point where Goku and Vegeta finally find out the truth about Beerus' role in the destruction of Planet Vegeta. This could lead to the Z-fighters turning against Beerus (they may still like Whis though) and Broly killing him in an all out battle.
Beerus was justified in wasting the Saiyan race.
They were garbage.
Besides, Goku and Vegeta don't have the power to due anything to him yet.
ricky84 wrote:This movie better be the point where Goku and Vegeta finally find out the truth about Beerus' role in the destruction of Planet Vegeta. This could lead to the Z-fighters turning against Beerus (they may still like Whis though) and Broly killing him in an all out battle.
Beerus was justified in wasting the Saiyan race.
They were garbage.
Besides, Goku and Vegeta don't have the power to due anything to him yet.
Doesn't the story of Yamoshi imply that the U7 saiyans weren't always savages? Besides, that's their race. You always gotta stand up for your race, that's what Vegeta told Goku on Namek as he died.
Also, Gods of Destruction like Beerus are not driven by morality, they are beyond good and evil. Beerus himself said he had Planet Vegeta destroyed merely because he didn't like the King.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
ricky84 wrote:This movie better be the point where Goku and Vegeta finally find out the truth about Beerus' role in the destruction of Planet Vegeta. This could lead to the Z-fighters turning against Beerus (they may still like Whis though) and Broly killing him in an all out battle.
Why would any of the z fighters besides maybe vegeta care about Beerus’ role in that though? Hell, didn’t goku flat out tell freeza that the saiyans got what was coming to them?
Yeah Goku would not care at all whatsoever and even Vegetas caring is up for debate.
But BROLY depending on how the new character is could be angry about it
Whis himself warned Beerus in Revival of F that Goku and Vegeta would turn against Beerus if they found out the truth.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
ZeroNeonix wrote:Agreed. Just look at how many times characters fight in space no problem. The only time not being able to breathe in space is important is when the plot demands it, like with Frieza on Namek. Likewise, time constraints won't equate to time on screen and may not even be acknowledged unless it serves the plot.
Saiyans fight in the outer most atmosphere not in space.
ZeroNeonix wrote:Agreed. Just look at how many times characters fight in space no problem. The only time not being able to breathe in space is important is when the plot demands it, like with Frieza on Namek. Likewise, time constraints won't equate to time on screen and may not even be acknowledged unless it serves the plot.
Saiyans fight in the outer most atmosphere not in space.
ZeroNeonix wrote:Agreed. Just look at how many times characters fight in space no problem. The only time not being able to breathe in space is important is when the plot demands it, like with Frieza on Namek. Likewise, time constraints won't equate to time on screen and may not even be acknowledged unless it serves the plot.
Saiyans fight in the outer most atmosphere not in space.
Oxygen ends in the inner most atmosphere...
Are you sure? I thought there was still oxygen out in the further portions of the atmosphere.
I always assumed they could breath in the outer reaches of our atmosphere but not in actual space
Spoiler:
Super carries on much of Dragon Ball and Z's charm in ways that might not immediately be obvious, while also bringing something new to the table. I certainly can't think of any previous arcs like Goku Black, and, for all its problems, the Tournament of Power is possibly the most ambitious storytelling endeavor in series history as far as how its narrative unfolds. It's also a thrill ride, which is all I wanted and exactly what I got. Super also canonizes decades old fan theories in ways that very naturally tie into the overall fabric of Dragon Ball's world in satisfying ways. All in all, Dragon Ball, Z, and Super are all well worth experiencing.
PFM18 wrote:
Are you sure? I thought there was still oxygen out in the further portions of the atmosphere.
I always assumed they could breath in the outer reaches of our atmosphere but not in actual space
I believe that question was answered by the man himself when asked about Goku and Beerus fighting in what seems to be space. He said it's not space, just really really high up, close to it where there's still oxygen.
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