With the 'Modern Broly', where does it leave Classic Broly in the franchise as a whole?

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With the 'Modern Broly', where does it leave Classic Broly in the franchise as a whole?

Post by JohnnyCashKami » Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:20 pm

Classic Broly has been in pretty much every Dragon Ball game made so it's not as if TOEI, Shueisha and Toriyama will write him off but will Modern Broly somehow replace his place in the franchise? Also, with TOEI remastering the Dragon Ball Z (and Dragon Ball) movies in high definition, we get to see Classic Broly better than ever before in crystal clear picture quality.

P.S. It'd be hella fun to see a battle in DB Super Movie 1 with Classic Broly vs Modern Broly. I'd probably root for Classic Broly to win (he just looks so ridiculously overpowered, muscled and what a fan-made character would be like).

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:30 pm

The same place as "GT Goku", presumably.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:33 pm

The original version will never be forgotten and thrown away. You will see the original Broli in video games and merchandise. Having two versions does not mean the original will be gone for good.
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Post by Brodes » Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:55 pm

With the other movie villains that constantly show up in other media? He won't be replaced, as others have said. They will both exist.

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Post by KBABZ » Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:08 pm

90s Broly was the edition of the character chosen for FighterZ, despite the fact that '10s Broly could have been saved until last so that he'd be announced for the movie first and then shown to be a DLC character. Both also happen to look different, with 90s Broly having red royalty-like clothing and 2010s Broly a more barbaric look with a green skirt.

As for the franchise as a whole, he's a fun legacy character. That he's being replaced with a new version sort of suggests that all the 80s and 90s movies are now considered to be fun side-stories that, while part of the franchise's legacy for it's most stratospherically popular point in its life (DBZ), is now no more than a historic curiosity in the face of Kai and Super.

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Post by zDBZ » Mon Sep 03, 2018 8:43 pm

If "Modern Broly" turns out anything like Minus Bardock, one would hope Classic Broly remains the primary representation of the character.

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Post by FoolsGil » Mon Sep 03, 2018 10:45 pm

Gonna agree with RandomGuy96. SSJ4 is one of the few things people stand from GT. Classic Broly is going to stand up at that same pedestal in the eyes of the fans.

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Post by Vijay » Tue Sep 04, 2018 3:33 am

Not everything new (reboots, remake) especially when it comes to modernized DB is great (Super comes to mind) Dat too when compared to original classic DBZ (be it the series, its baddies, its dramatic tone, the plot, Shunsuke Kikuchi's music, etc), whatever TOEI threw simply looks uninspired, cheap & pedestrian

Barring 2 films (BOG & ROF), none of TOEI's modern efforts looks sincere to leave an everlasting impact to the fanbase unlike say...FMAB, HXH2011, Inuyasha etc

I'd say 90's Broly design & his films will always remain memorable gems. Times may change & fans will grow-up even outgrow their love towards Broly, his films or even dbz series in general. But 1 thing remains

M8 Broly film & his LSSJ status back in 1993 was such a "beast" that its impact catapulted Broly into an iconic Saiyan figure, thus making him one of most polarizing anime character not only in DB/Z history but also in anime history, spanned a trilogy, made a killing on various video games, toy sales, merchandise sales, contributed to millions of "what-if" theories, debates, discussions behind his LSSJ states in M8/M10/M11, theorized LSSJ2, LSSJ4 etc for. over.25.fckin.years.

Dats 1/4 of a century

And without a shadow of doubt. M8's cultural & financial impact back then in Japan, Europe, all over the globe which is still felt till date is responsible for the upcoming DB Super Broly film.

And dats saying something...

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Re: With the 'Modern Broly', where does it leave Classic Broly in the franchise as a whole?

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:13 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:The original version will never be forgotten and thrown away. You will see the original Broli in video games and merchandise. Having two versions does not mean the original will be gone for good.
It's funny you should say that Bandai are literally releasing this Broly in January a month after movie release:
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I also think NuBroly not having the LSS distinction helps aswell.

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Post by Xeztin » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:03 pm

They will probably use them as we use GT Goku and Super Goku along with Xeno Goku. It will probably be looked at as an alternate timeline Broly. I think calling him something like “Xeno” or a cool word that would mean alternate would be cool.

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Post by Grimlock » Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:46 pm

Xeztin wrote:It will probably be looked at as an alternate timeline Broly.
But this is how movies and all their characters should be looked at already. They all exist in an alternate dimension of Universe 7.

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Post by Yuli Ban » Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:03 pm

I'm not entirely unconvinced that the movie won't end with Broly becoming the new god of destruction and being given some very familiar, Egyptian-esque threads.
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Post by CTAkuma » Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:02 pm

Yuli Ban wrote:I'm not entirely unconvinced that the movie won't end with Broly becoming the new god of destruction and being given some very familiar, Egyptian-esque threads.
That was my theory too, i hope he gets something similar since thats what i loved about the old Broli design

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Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:45 am

Nothing will change. Broly's original appearance had not bearing on the central plot of Dragon Ball, and that will continue to be the case. As far as Bandai and Toei are concerned, they just have another character they can market.

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Post by MonkeyKing16 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:55 am

Honestly I prefer the design of Broly with the fur pelt.

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Post by majinwarman » Wed Sep 05, 2018 4:25 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:Nothing will change. Broly's original appearance had not bearing on the central plot of Dragon Ball, and that will continue to be the case. As far as Bandai and Toei are concerned, they just have another character they can market.
He is still popular so why not continue using him.
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Post by Cetra » Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:38 pm

I hope Toei will reuse the clothes for the anime at one point so we at least have him looking like that.
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Post by Gorrilian » Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:44 am

I just sketched this up, just now. I think some posters were thinking along these lines.

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I hope the image fits.

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Post by Luso Saiyan » Thu Sep 06, 2018 8:59 am

If it were up to me, it would leave him relegated to eternal obscurity.

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Post by USSJ Roshi » Thu Sep 06, 2018 4:47 pm

Will this movie even be kanon or like a filler movie like the Dragon Ball Z movies were?

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