Why Do Kaioshin Not Have A Zeno Button In Case Their Lives Are In Danger?

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Why Do Kaioshin Not Have A Zeno Button In Case Their Lives Are In Danger?

Post by theherodjl » Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:23 pm

Beerus was obviously sleeping during Majin Boo's previous rampage, and no one knew how to contact Whis, why did Shin or the other 4 Kaioshin not have a way to contact Zeno, Daishinkan, or another powerful being in the event that they would be wiped out by an evil being like Boo? Or Zamasu/Black for that matter? Is it just presumed that there isn't ordinarily fighters strong enough to kill Kaioshin, and so no measures are taken to ensure their survival?
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Re: Why Do Kaioshin Not Have A Zeno Button In Case Their Lives Are In Danger?

Post by SupremeKai25 » Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:28 pm

Maybe Zeno or the Grand Priest are afraid that producing so many Zeno Buttons would increase drastically the chances of one of them falling into the wrong hands. Indeed, Imagine if Zamasu had somehow found the Zeno Button. He could just go to Zeno and convince him that mortal kind, and Son Goku, is a threat. Zamasu is smart, he was able to cunningly play Gowasu, oldest of the Supreme Kais, like a violin, I am sure that it would be a piece of cake for him to trick Zeno, so childish and naive, into helping him.

Consider also the fact that Beerus is very incompetent at his job, even Zeno aknowledged it. He wasn't supposed to sleep during the whole... huh... incident, with Majin Boo. But since he is lazy, he did, thus neglecting his duty to Universe 7 as its Destroyer.

Plus, Supreme Kais are meant to remain safe from any harm, hence why they live on their own sacred world, so faraway from the rest of their universes (Goku had a lot of trouble finding the location of Universe 7's Sacred World of the Kais), and Kais are not meant to involve themselves in the matters of mortal kind, but are merely supposed to observe them from the high heavens.
At his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
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Re: Why Do Kaioshin Not Have A Zeno Button In Case Their Lives Are In Danger?

Post by Ssjcell » Fri Sep 07, 2018 4:37 pm

Zeno can't be concerned by the matters of the supreme kais they are too high up to care they can always find a new supreme Kai...

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Re: Why Do Kaioshin Not Have A Zeno Button In Case Their Lives Are In Danger?

Post by theherodjl » Sat Sep 08, 2018 1:12 am

You know it makes me wonder now, just what the hell was Future Daishinkan doing??? He's the greatest of the Angels so why wouldn't he give an occasional update to Zeno on the fact that multiple Kaioshin/Hakaishin as well as their Angels were out of commission, and that the universes were free to be conquered or corrupted? If I recall, Zeno is said to destroy evil beings. How could they all miss the fact that two evil beings were altering the multiversal hierarchy in plain sight?
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Re: Why Do Kaioshin Not Have A Zeno Button In Case Their Lives Are In Danger?

Post by SupremeKai25 » Sat Sep 08, 2018 5:38 am

theherodjl wrote:You know it makes me wonder now, just what the hell was Future Daishinkan doing??? He's the greatest of the Angels so why wouldn't he give an occasional update to Zeno on the fact that multiple Kaioshin/Hakaishin as well as their Angels were out of commission, and that the universes were free to be conquered or corrupted? If I recall, Zeno is said to destroy evil beings. How could they all miss the fact that two evil beings were altering the multiversal hierarchy in plain sight?
Because Zamasu was smart enough to kill every God in the multiverse so swiftly that not even Zeno could realize that. As for the Grand Priest, Maybe he doesn't know when his children are out of commission. He is powerful, but not omniscient. And since not even Zeno was aware of Zamasu's actions, the Grand Priest most likely wasn't either.
At his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
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Re: Why Do Kaioshin Not Have A Zeno Button In Case Their Lives Are In Danger?

Post by sunsetshimmer » Sat Sep 08, 2018 8:02 am

He considered Goku a friend so he got the button.

Kais are nothing to him. Inferior life forms. Why would Zeno ever care about them.
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Re: Why Do Kaioshin Not Have A Zeno Button In Case Their Lives Are In Danger?

Post by Apslup » Sun Sep 09, 2018 10:14 am

I thought that the Zeno Button was just a one-off thing that Zeno only gave to Goku because Goku was the first friend that Zeno ever had. He probably doesn't like the Kaioshin and the Gods of Destruction enough to even consider giving them one.

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Re: Why Do Kaioshin Not Have A Zeno Button In Case Their Lives Are In Danger?

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Sep 09, 2018 6:30 pm

Because Zeno's solutions are worse than the problem in most cases.

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