Shifting The Focus From Goku

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Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by Kaiza_Toshiyuki » Mon Oct 01, 2018 9:59 am

If Dragon Ball wasnt about Goku, would you still watch it? And if they made the main character Uub, how would you like his personality and drive to get stronger be?

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Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by GT_Goten10 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:05 am

Nah I Think The only thing I would watch without Goku is a Hit Spin off
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Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by ABED » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:12 am

Why of all characters would you change it to Uub?

DB is about Goku, so while I might reluctantly watch, it's not something I'd be eager to see. I don't even watch Super, though I plan to see the movies, and I don't think any story should change main characters after a long run unless that's the premise from the jump. DB has gone decades with Goku in the driver's seat, why change now?
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Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by Kaiza_Toshiyuki » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:13 am

GT_Goten10 wrote:Nah I Think The only thing I would watch without Goku is a Hit Spin off
I'm not sure I would like that all that much if it was a full length anime. It would be better as a fun sdbh short episode type series to watch.
ABED wrote:Why of all characters would you change it to Uub?

DB is about Goku, so while I might reluctantly watch, it's not something I'd be eager to see. I don't even watch Super, though I plan to see the movies, and I don't think any story should change main characters after a long run unless that's the premise from the jump. DB has gone decades with Goku in the driver's seat, why change now?
Goku is almost 50 years old in series. Either they retcon the fact that saiyans age very quickly in their older years, They end the series with goku being to old to fight, or they pass the torch on to someone else.

Also, Masako Nozawa ( The Japanese Voice actor of goku) is 81 years old. She wont be around forever. Either they end the series, replace the actor ( Which I doubt they would do), or make someone else the main character.

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Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by Chuquita » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:42 am

I'd go on vacation from new Dragon Ball. There's other fish in the sea of franchises and stuff I enjoy. I've been a fan long enough where it'd be a definite loss, sure, but I'd find something else.
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Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by MasenkoHA » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:43 am

Kaiza_Toshiyuki wrote:. Either they end the series
Which they more or less did.

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Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by sintzu » Mon Oct 01, 2018 10:51 am

Kaiza_Toshiyuki wrote:If Dragon Ball wasn't about Goku, would you still watch it ?

If they made the main character Uub, how would you like his personality and drive to get stronger be ?
I don't know as everything from start to finish would be completely different so it won't even resemble the dragon ball we know apart form its name.

The franchise would die so fast I won't even have time to finish my first request.
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Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by Doctor. » Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:15 am

I would watch it because I applaud the effort of trying something new. Whether I'd continue watching it would depend on whether or not they were writing any creative stories. Without Goku, the sense of "obligation" to watch the series is gone.

As for Oob, he's pretty much a blank slate, so he could be taken in any direction as a character.

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Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by Kaiza_Toshiyuki » Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:18 am

Doctor. wrote:I would watch it because I applaud the effort of trying something new. Whether I'd continue watching it would depend on whether or not they were writing any creative stories. Without Goku, the sense of "obligation" to watch the series is gone.

As for Oob, he's pretty much a blank slate, so he could be taken in any direction as a character.
Thats the beauty of it. You have a brand new charcter with a brand new personality

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Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by Michsi » Mon Oct 01, 2018 11:54 am

Depends on who'd be the new focus and how much the other characters also get pushed in the background.

I wouldn't mind a bit of time away from Goku, but only in the form of a limited spin-off series, not a new direction for the franchise as a whole.

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Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by ABED » Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:29 pm

Some of you make it sound like some great tragedy to end it. The story has ended before. Better to leave the party before it dies down.
Either they retcon the fact that saiyans age very quickly in their older years
50 is hardly old.
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Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by RecolorSaiyan » Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:34 pm

Sure why not. Oob is a blank slate as a character and would be interesting to see where he is taken

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Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by sintzu » Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:41 pm

Kaiza_Toshiyuki wrote:
Doctor. wrote:I would watch it because I applaud the effort of trying something new. Whether I'd continue watching it would depend on whether or not they were writing any creative stories. Without Goku, the sense of "obligation" to watch the series is gone.

As for Oob, he's pretty much a blank slate, so he could be taken in any direction as a character.
Thats the beauty of it. You have a brand new charcter with a brand new personality
If we want something that drastic we'll just watch another show.
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Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by SupremeKai25 » Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:46 pm

Super already did that. The main protagonist of the Future Trunks arc is clearly Future Trunks himself. His name is literally in the title of the arc. And most people liked Future Trunks' character development in that arc, in particular his final battle against the grotesque but once divine Fused Zamasu which resulted in his gruesome death, and subsequently they also hated how Trunks was robbed of his much-deserved victory because of the asspull Zeno who can literally erase creation in a few seconds.
At his core Zamasu is good like Shin, though I guess you could say he was so fastidious that it backfired. But you know, for this "Future Trunks Arc" you had to depict Zamasu and Trunks' inner conflict, right? If this was back when I was drawing the manga myself then I doubt if I could have done it. I mean, I'm not very good at depicting the characters' psychology on the page. So this all came together because now I only have to think up the story. [...] On my own, I doubt I would have been able to express Zamasu's fall to the dark side.
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Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by ABED » Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:46 pm

Why not just do a spin off?
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Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by Grimlock » Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:47 pm

sintzu wrote:If we want something that drastic we'll just watch another show.
"We"? No, speak for you. Pretty much everything can be done with Uub the same way they did with Goku without changing theme and such. With the exception that they wouldn't give a lot of transformations to a human, like they do to Goku.

By the way, there wouldn't be a problem if the theme were to change at all. It's nice to have different things so to avoid boring things and the same old nonsense.

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Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by ABED » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:00 pm

Grimlock wrote:
sintzu wrote:If we want something that drastic we'll just watch another show.
"We"? No, speak for you. Pretty much everything can be done with Uub the same way they did with Goku without changing theme and such. With the exception that they wouldn't give a lot of transformations to a human, like they do to Goku.

By the way, there wouldn't be a problem if the theme were to change at all. It's nice to have different things so to avoid boring things and the same old nonsense.
But in this case, you seem to want to have your cake and eat it too. You want something different, but still have it be Dragon Ball (i.e. the same, familiar, etc.)
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Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by Grimlock » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:23 pm

ABED wrote:You want something different, but still have it be Dragon Ball (i.e. the same, familiar, etc.)
I'm just saying that changing wouldn't be an issue. And that it is possible to do and keep everything but with Uub as a main character.

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Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by Kaiza_Toshiyuki » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:30 pm

ABED wrote:
Grimlock wrote:
sintzu wrote:If we want something that drastic we'll just watch another show.
"We"? No, speak for you. Pretty much everything can be done with Uub the same way they did with Goku without changing theme and such. With the exception that they wouldn't give a lot of transformations to a human, like they do to Goku.

By the way, there wouldn't be a problem if the theme were to change at all. It's nice to have different things so to avoid boring things and the same old nonsense.
But in this case, you seem to want to have your cake and eat it too. You want something different, but still have it be Dragon Ball (i.e. the same, familiar, etc.)
I think you forget how much of a drastic change the franchise went through back in dragon ball when it went from an adventure anime with action aspects in dragon ball to strictly being action in Z. Dragon Ball Can change in ways that can be for the good in the case of Z, or for the worse in the case of things Like GT. But I want something different thats not the boring generic show that is Dragon Ball Super. And with the way they are using goku in the series is not interesting anymore.

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Re: Shifting The Focus From Goku

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Oct 01, 2018 1:38 pm

Honestly, if Super does come back as a TV series, I want that to be the direction it take.. There can be interesting Dragon Ball stories told without Goku involved. Hell, we already gotten good stories without Goku as a central focus in the slightest.

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