Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[PFM18]

Is there a reason why why would fuse into Gogeta instead of Vegeto? Lack of access to the potara?

There is no reason. Just blind and stupid fanservice.

I'm sure we will get a reason in the movie

[GodVegetto91]

Is there a reason why why would fuse into Gogeta instead of Vegeto? Lack of access to the potara?

There is no reason. Just blind and stupid fanservice.

I'm sure we will get a reason in the movie

Not a reason i would ever accept, but okay!

[sintzu]

Is there a reason why why would fuse into Gogeta instead of Vegeto? Lack of access to the potara?

There is no reason. Just blind and stupid fanservice.

They've already said the movie was being made based on popularity so that's probably the reason. If it's handled well then it'll make up for the lack of creativity.

[AnimeNation101]

Is there a reason why why would fuse into Gogeta instead of Vegeto? Lack of access to the potara?

There is no reason. Just blind and stupid fanservice.

They've already said the movie was being made based on popularity so that's probably the reason. If it's handled well then it'll make up for the lack of creativity.

I'm pretty sure tehy’re Asking for the “in-universe” reason

[miguelnuva1]

I\d laugh if they say that Gogeta because he's not as powerful as ssj blue fusion would last longer than Vegito's. Gogeta's power for 15 mins might be better than Vegito's for 5 for example but must likely because the potara isn't there they have to use the dance.

[vashter]

I saw on Imdb website with dragon ball super broly in it, show that VA for goku/goten is doing bardock voice in it, and someone tell me that shit is not reliable source lol

[vashter]

and you people who attempt to create meme that placeholder is cooler.... they did same thing to kelfa in placeholder when 80% of you thought it jiren's sister or wife or a girl version of jiren

[Jaden]

I saw on Imdb website with dragon ball super broly in it, show that VA for goku/goten is doing bardock voice in it, and someone tell me that shit is not reliable source lol

You do realize IMDB can be edited by anyone...right? So no. Not a reliable source.

[ZeroNeonix]

Is there a reason why why would fuse into Gogeta instead of Vegeto? Lack of access to the potara?

The reason for fusing into Gogeta instead of Vegito? No Potara earrings. Unless a Supreme Kai just happens to be around to offer their earrings, no Vegito. The reason why Goku and Vegeta agree to use the fusion dance, despite their Saiyan pride preventing them from using fusions against non-fused enemies in every other canon story? Fan service. I mean seriously. Goku and Vegeta didn't even try fusion against Jiren, despite having the Supreme Kai as well as the precedent set by Kefla. Their entire universe was going to be deleted from existence if they lost that battle, and they said no to fusion. Why would they do it now?

[miguelnuva1]

Goku and Vegeta not fusing is as much of a plot error as them wanting to fuse. I can't remember if Goku counted base Super Buu as a fusion but Goku wanted to fuse against Fat Buu as well despite being strong enough to beat him at ssj3 before it is even brought up to him about the boys.

With Vegeta it is shown time and time again that his pride is second to what is best for his family the biggest showing being not leaving Bulma through her pregnancy despite Goku and Whis both telling him about fighting/training.

It seems to me Goku and Vegeta don't fuse unless there is no chance against their opponent, both merged Zamasu and Jiren despite being more powerful were at times on the the ropes when the two fought together, Jiren especially did not become a huge problem till his final power up

[Kanassa]

Goku and Vegeta not fusing is as much of a plot error as them wanting to fuse. I can't remember if Goku counted base Super Buu as a fusion but Goku wanted to fuse against Fat Buu as well despite being strong enough to beat him at ssj3 before it is even brought up to him about the boys.

With Vegeta it is shown time and time again that his pride is second to what is best for his family the biggest showing being not leaving Bulma through her pregnancy despite Goku and Whis both telling him about fighting/training.

It seems to me Goku and Vegeta don't fuse unless there is no chance against their opponent, both merged Zamasu and Jiren despite being more powerful were at times on the the ropes when the two fought together, Jiren especially did not become a huge problem till his final power up

I would also say that fusing in of itself it a pretty big risk due to it's time constraints, leaving them exhausted and the fact that this is a tournament where they can just be knocked off the stage. Plus, Jiren could probably easily destroy any items thrown at them.

Not saying it's a definite excuse, just that it's a possible factor in why they'd deny the fusion

[Polyphase Avatron]

Plus, Jiren could probably easily destroy any items thrown at them.

That would be completely OOC. He always lets his opponents do whatever they can to power up.

[CTAkuma]

Didn't they say that the "warrior" fighting Broli is fighting him the most or something like that?

[HeroR]

Goku and Vegeta not fusing is as much of a plot error as them wanting to fuse. I can't remember if Goku counted base Super Buu as a fusion but Goku wanted to fuse against Fat Buu as well despite being strong enough to beat him at ssj3 before it is even brought up to him about the boys.

With Vegeta it is shown time and time again that his pride is second to what is best for his family the biggest showing being not leaving Bulma through her pregnancy despite Goku and Whis both telling him about fighting/training.

It seems to me Goku and Vegeta don't fuse unless there is no chance against their opponent, both merged Zamasu and Jiren despite being more powerful were at times on the the ropes when the two fought together, Jiren especially did not become a huge problem till his final power up

Goku counted Super Buu as a fusion and saw fusing as evenly the odds. Against Fat Buu, Goku was a little lair who claimed he was only even with Vegeta when he talked about fusion with Vegeta.

That said, he humored fusion to beat Beerus and only dismissed it when he realized it would be pointless. Not because Beerus wasn’t a fusion.

Goku is kinda inconsistent with fusion. Just like teamwork. But overall, he only fused when there’s no other choice and he got the shit beating out of him previously. Like Merged Zamasu beat up Goku and Vegeta for an entire episode and Goku lost use of all but one of his limbs before he put fusion on the table.

[Saiga]

Goku and Vegeta not fusing is as much of a plot error as them wanting to fuse. I can't remember if Goku counted base Super Buu as a fusion but Goku wanted to fuse against Fat Buu as well despite being strong enough to beat him at ssj3 before it is even brought up to him about the boys.

With Vegeta it is shown time and time again that his pride is second to what is best for his family the biggest showing being not leaving Bulma through her pregnancy despite Goku and Whis both telling him about fighting/training.

It seems to me Goku and Vegeta don't fuse unless there is no chance against their opponent, both merged Zamasu and Jiren despite being more powerful were at times on the the ropes when the two fought together, Jiren especially did not become a huge problem till his final power up

Yeah, after Goku and Vegeta removed Super Boo's absoprtions, Goku still wanted to use the fusion dance to fight him because they were outclassed. Even though he said it wasn't fair to fight Kid Boo with fusion, he thought that because he thought he could win without it. As soon as he started struggling, he regretted breaking the potara - and this was back when he believed that using them would be permanent.

Flash forward to Battle of Gods, and Goku immediately considers fusion when he loses to Beerus, only dismissing it because he doesn't think it'd work.

Goku was consistently characterized as being willing to fuse whenever an opponent was too tough, Vegeta needed more co-ercing but would accept permanent fusion if it was the only way to fight a powerful threat.

The idea that these two won't fuse, or will only fuse against stronger foes is based off one scene in the manga that Goku admits was a mistake.

The fact that Goku and Vegeta are willing to fuse here isn't a plot error to the original. It's only a plot error to the characterization Super gave them, which was contradictory to the manga.

Them fusing isn't fanservice, it's what they would logically do in this situation.

Edit: ^ I don't think he considered Super Boo a fusion, that makes no sense when he doesn't know Boo's history. From his perspective, Fat Boo spat out his evil half and said evil half absorbed Fat Boo, going back to one being. He only brought up the fairness of using fusion against a non-fused foe when he thought he could handle Kid Boo without it.

[vashter]

Goku and Vegeta not fusing is as much of a plot error as them wanting to fuse. I can't remember if Goku counted base Super Buu as a fusion but Goku wanted to fuse against Fat Buu as well despite being strong enough to beat him at ssj3 before it is even brought up to him about the boys.

With Vegeta it is shown time and time again that his pride is second to what is best for his family the biggest showing being not leaving Bulma through her pregnancy despite Goku and Whis both telling him about fighting/training.

It seems to me Goku and Vegeta don't fuse unless there is no chance against their opponent, both merged Zamasu and Jiren despite being more powerful were at times on the the ropes when the two fought together, Jiren especially did not become a huge problem till his final power up

Yeah, after Goku and Vegeta removed Super Boo's absoprtions, Goku still wanted to use the fusion dance to fight him because they were outclassed. Even though he said it wasn't fair to fight Kid Boo with fusion, he thought that because he thought he could win without it. As soon as he started struggling, he regretted breaking the potara - and this was back when he believed that using them would be permanent.

Flash forward to Battle of Gods, and Goku immediately considers fusion when he loses to Beerus, only dismissing it because he doesn't think it'd work.

Goku was consistently characterized as being willing to fuse whenever an opponent was too tough, Vegeta needed more co-ercing but would accept permanent fusion if it was the only way to fight a powerful threat.

The idea that these two won't fuse, or will only fuse against stronger foes is based off one scene in the manga that Goku admits was a mistake.

The fact that Goku and Vegeta are willing to fuse here isn't a plot error to the original. It's only a plot error to the characterization Super gave them, which was contradictory to the manga.

Them fusing isn't fanservice, it's what they would logically do in this situation.

Edit: ^ I don't think he considered Super Boo a fusion, that makes no sense when he doesn't know Boo's history. From his perspective, Fat Boo spat out his evil half and said evil half absorbed Fat Boo, going back to one being. He only brought up the fairness of using fusion against a non-fused foe when he thought he could handle Kid Boo without it.

Where is quote he said that in bog? I need to see a source...

[WittyUsername]

Regarding why Gomu and Vegeta would randomly decide to fuse against Broly despite their “Saiyan” pride, Goku has never been consistent when it comes to that. The latter parts of the series (and especially Super) tried to make him out to be the kind of person who refuses to team up against an opponent because he believes in a fair fight, yet he not only had no problem teaming up with Piccolo to fight Raditz, but he straight up held an injured Raditz in place so that Piccolo could kill him. Then of course, there’s the fact that he’s the one who suggested using fusion to defeat Majin Buu in the first place. Even the Super anime had Goku and Vegeta double teaming Jiren for a while, and Jiren was ultimately taken down due to a team effort.

[Daisetsu]

Spoiler:

Goku and Vegeta not fusing is as much of a plot error as them wanting to fuse. I can't remember if Goku counted base Super Buu as a fusion but Goku wanted to fuse against Fat Buu as well despite being strong enough to beat him at ssj3 before it is even brought up to him about the boys.

With Vegeta it is shown time and time again that his pride is second to what is best for his family the biggest showing being not leaving Bulma through her pregnancy despite Goku and Whis both telling him about fighting/training.

It seems to me Goku and Vegeta don't fuse unless there is no chance against their opponent, both merged Zamasu and Jiren despite being more powerful were at times on the the ropes when the two fought together, Jiren especially did not become a huge problem till his final power up

Yeah, after Goku and Vegeta removed Super Boo's absoprtions, Goku still wanted to use the fusion dance to fight him because they were outclassed. Even though he said it wasn't fair to fight Kid Boo with fusion, he thought that because he thought he could win without it. As soon as he started struggling, he regretted breaking the potara - and this was back when he believed that using them would be permanent.

Flash forward to Battle of Gods, and Goku immediately considers fusion when he loses to Beerus, only dismissing it because he doesn't think it'd work.

Goku was consistently characterized as being willing to fuse whenever an opponent was too tough, Vegeta needed more co-ercing but would accept permanent fusion if it was the only way to fight a powerful threat.

The idea that these two won't fuse, or will only fuse against stronger foes is based off one scene in the manga that Goku admits was a mistake.

The fact that Goku and Vegeta are willing to fuse here isn't a plot error to the original. It's only a plot error to the characterization Super gave them, which was contradictory to the manga.

Them fusing isn't fanservice, it's what they would logically do in this situation.

Edit: ^ I don't think he considered Super Boo a fusion, that makes no sense when he doesn't know Boo's history. From his perspective, Fat Boo spat out his evil half and said evil half absorbed Fat Boo, going back to one being. He only brought up the fairness of using fusion against a non-fused foe when he thought he could handle Kid Boo without it.

Where is quote he said that in bog? I need to see a source...

It's right after Kaio informs Vegeta that Beerus is heading to Earth. It's about 30 minutes into the extended version.

[Geekdom101]

Spoilers For Trailer 2:

Spoiler:

> Gogeta is not in the trailer but he is in the movie.
> Bardock, Paragus, Freeza confirmed for Trailer 2
> Trailer will focus a lot on the past.

[RedHeat]

Spoilers For Trailer 2:

Spoiler:

> Gogeta is not in the trailer but he is in the movie.
> Bardock, Paragus, Freeza confirmed for Trailer 2
> Trailer will focus a lot on the past.

what's your source?