Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[AnimeNation101]

So, I'm assuming the first 30 minutes will cover Minus, Gine’s death, and Bardock’s rebellion.
And we’ll get more mini flashbacks scattered throughout the story later. Stuff like Paragus explaining Broly’s Abnormal power at birth and how he got exiled or Vegeta explaining some of past.

So in all, i expect 40 minutes worth of flashbacks

I expect 24 minutes worth of action.

And the 36 minutes left would be dialogue and gags.

only 24 minutes of action the whole movie?

30 minutes for flash backs in the past.

30 minutes for dialogue in the present such as Goku trying to get Vegeta to fuse with him, Freeza making some deal with Paragus, etc.

40 minutes for the fighting.

I've changed my mind.

It would be 40 minutes of flashbacks in all (which includes some action)

30 minutes of action taking place in the present

30 minutes of the rest (the rest of the dialogue, the gags, the wrapping up, etc)

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

I just think it’s bullshit why they aren’t even allowed to reach a mere 2 hours. What’s so problematic about that? Lots of movies are 2 hours and this is supposed to be the biggest Dragonball movie ever created.!

Maybe because the story they are telling doesn't need two hours to be told.

Other movies being 2 hours long doesn't mean this one has to be.

[sintzu]

I just think it’s bullshit why they aren’t even allowed to reach a mere 2 hours. What’s so problematic about that? Lots of movies are 2 hours and this is supposed to be the biggest Dragonball movie ever created.!

Maybe because the story they are telling doesn't need two hours to be told.

Other movies being 2 hours long doesn't mean this one has to be.

The way they've talked about the movie implies that it needs a lot of time but 100 minutes is still long enough IF handled right.

[TheOne]

Double Post

[TheOne]

Not calling you guys liars (even if I am skeptical) but I’m pretty sure many months before the series ended, everyone was talking about how the DVD sets showing only 131 episodes (or somewhere near) was already signaling the series wrapping up at that point. So there was already evidence of this being a strong possibility. Making such claims of knowledge now well after the fact do absolutely nothing to prove you knew what was coming.

I'm not trying to prove anything. I was just annoyed at the guy who was blowing up my inbox on Reddit, where we don't allow any unconfirmed reports (no matter the credibility of the reporter) without massive disclaimers (and then only rarely), so I came here to vent in my own special way.

I'm not either. My body of work speaks for itself. If a few people still haven't accepted my legitimacy, its unfortunate, but I'm not losing sleep over it. You would think all of the interviews I've done and all the times I've broken stories way before others would be enough... but I guess its not acceptable for a "YOOTOOBER" to have sources. okey dokey...

Terez and Ajay can tell you stories for years about stuff I told them ahead of time that came true.

Look. I don't know you and I don't have a problem with you. The only time I have had quarrels with what you bring to the table is when your fans come on here citing you as an official source. I have looked up your profile on Youtube and have seen you have a good amount of subscribers, but I have never watched a video. I have no idea what "content you've broken" or "stories you told that came true". What I do know is that when I was watching Dragon Ball clips during Supers run, your clips would pop up frequently. Every one of your titles were very vague descriptions that seemed more opinion based than fact based. Anytime I would see your channel pop up in my recommended videos, it would always be after they were revealed elsewhere. It always seemed reactionary. I have never felt the desire to watch other people talk about dragon ball since it's something I like to watch alone. I'm sure you have "some sources", but even a stopped clock is right twice a day. I myself have made predictions in this series that end up coming true. If the vague statement you made about the Broly trailer are true, awesome. You found more ammunition to defend your claims and make skeptics like me shut their mouths. Like I said, I have no problem with you personally. I'm all about the hustle and hope you're getting your money from this. I just can't agree that you should be cited as an official source. Take what I say with a grain of salt since I have not watched a video of yours.

[TheOne]

I just think it’s bullshit why they aren’t even allowed to reach a mere 2 hours. What’s so problematic about that? Lots of movies are 2 hours and this is supposed to be the biggest Dragonball movie ever created.!

Maybe because the story they are telling doesn't need two hours to be told.

Other movies being 2 hours long doesn't mean this one has to be.

The way they've talked about the movie implies that it needs a lot of time but 100 minutes is still long enough IF handled right.

That’s the thing. How often do you ever see toei handle stuff right in dragon ball? Part of the problems we dealt with in Super was the lack of going into depth about things. Vague transformations, vague background and details. Too many unanswered questions. When it’s dealing with the history of saiyans, I don’t want any details spared. So I can understand why people are upset wth them.

[PFM18]

I'm really excited at how they are talking about Vegeta in this movie. I hope he gets some interesting character moments/fights.

[sintzu]

I'm really excited at how they are talking about Vegeta in this movie. I hope he gets some interesting character moments/fights.

Same here as they've got a lot to make for cause that abysmal performance he had in the 1st Broly movie and not being in the second one is probably Vegeta's lowest points in the franchise.

[PFM18]

I'm really excited at how they are talking about Vegeta in this movie. I hope he gets some interesting character moments/fights.

Same here as they've got a lot to make for cause that abysmal performance he had in the 1st Broly movie and not being in the second one is probably Vegeta's lowest points in the franchise.

I mean, they don't have to "make up for" anything. The last Broly movies are entirely separate and pretty much irrelevant in terms of the franchise as a whole. They don't even fit into the continuity and the movies themselves were horrible, so Vegeta having a crap performance doesn't really matter because nobody should care about the movie in the first place.The original Brolly movies were just kind of an awkward, horribly written side story that didn't fit anywhere. Vegeta being a bitch in the movie is just kind of another element of the low quality that it doesn't really stick out as something that is significant. Battle of Gods and RoF mattered at the time because they fit in the continuity and they were a continuation of Toriyama's story. This movie does matter because it fits in the continuity and is written by the original creator too.

[sintzu]

The last Broly movies are entirely separate and pretty much irrelevant in terms of the franchise as a whole.

True but Broly since his introduction has been the "legendary" Ssj and Vegeta, the prince of Saiyans didn't even get a fight with him. He didn't have to win or anything but was having him sit with his mouth open in fear the best they could do ? From what we've seen in the trailer and what we've been told it looks like he's finally going to get a respectable performance against him.

[Mister_Popo]

I'm really excited at how they are talking about Vegeta in this movie. I hope he gets some interesting character moments/fights.

That fight right after Broly attacks him, is going to be epic. And he's a part of Gogeta, that's better than getting his ass kicked.
His past will have an important role too.

[majinwarman]

Why is there such a low morale from fans for movies before a new trailer comes out?

[PFM18]

I'm really excited at how they are talking about Vegeta in this movie. I hope he gets some interesting character moments/fights.

That fight right after Broly attacks him, is going to be epic. And he's a part of Gogeta, that's better than getting his ass kicked.
His past will have an important role too.

I hope they play up the whole royalty thing and/or make Vegeta's past come back to bite him and he redeems himself or something like that. Maybe even have somebody comment about how SSBE is a "Royal Blue" color as a nice little touch.

Even If the Broly movies are totally irrelevant/terrible and dont even occur to me normally, It will be a nice contrast to not see Vegeta being a bitch like he was in M8.

That said, part of me wishes I didnt already know Gogeta would be in it. I want to at least be able to HOPE Vegeta will get the final kill/win lol. I think it would be interesting if Vegeta beats Broly and decides to spare him. Instead, I think it'll just be Gogeta coming in and smashing Broly's face in.

[Mister_Popo]

Why is there such a low morale from fans for movies before a new trailer comes out?

Don't know, can't wait till the new trailer drops.

[Desassina]

Would you like Broly to remain as a character in the series like a stalker tyrant from Resident Evil games? Not a villain, not a rival, only Nemesis.

[Chuquita]

Why is there such a low morale from fans for movies before a new trailer comes out?

I can't speak for others, but my morale for this film in particular is low because I'm expecting this to be more of a remake than anything new, plot-wise. Like we're gonna get pretty new locations to be used in future games and beautiful animation, but I feel the only new story stuff will be whatever gags Toriyama wrote. It'll be that + Movie 8 again + Minus + Gogeta.

I love to theorize and it's near impossible when the majority of what they've shown us so far is a retread of previous material.
I could theorize about the three series original arcs in Super. I can't theorize easily about here's Movie 8 with new clothes and fewer characters.
It's hard to theorize when you go in with the mindset that you've been there done that.

I could be and hope to be proven wrong.

My hope that I'm wrong is part of why I'm still following this movie. That and Goku's in it.

[CTAkuma]

I'm really excited at how they are talking about Vegeta in this movie. I hope he gets some interesting character moments/fights.

That fight right after Broly attacks him, is going to be epic. And he's a part of Gogeta, that's better than getting his ass kicked.
His past will have an important role too.

I hope they play up the whole royalty thing and/or make Vegeta's past come back to bite him and he redeems himself or something like that. Maybe even have somebody comment about how SSBE is a "Royal Blue" color as a nice little touch.

Even If the Broly movies are totally irrelevant/terrible and dont even occur to me normally, It will be a nice contrast to not see Vegeta being a bitch like he was in M8.

That said, part of me wishes I didnt already know Gogeta would be in it. I want to at least be able to HOPE Vegeta will get the final kill/win lol. I think it would be interesting if Vegeta beats Broly and decides to spare him. Instead, I think it'll just be Gogeta coming in and smashing Broly's face in.

You hating all Broly movies even movie 8 and mentioning them in every sentence is something we understood after the fourth time

[alakazam^]

I could be and hope to be proven wrong.

You already know you're wrong, not sure why you keep feeding that mindset. However similar to movie 8 this might be, we know they'll talk about the past, Broli is somewhat different, Paragus is somewhat different, Gogeeta is a thing, Freeza will be part of the movie and Freeza's minions will have an important (?) role as well. Aren't these enough differences from movie 8?

[Chuquita]

I could be and hope to be proven wrong.

You already know you're wrong, not sure why you keep feeding that mindset. However similar to movie 8 this might be, we know they'll talk about the past, Broli is somewhat different, Paragus is somewhat different, Gogeeta is a thing, Freeza will be part of the movie and Freeza's minions will have an important (?) role as well. Aren't these enough differences from movie 8?

I know, I need to get out of this feeling concerned and try to be more optimistic. I enjoyed the initial teaser, then that first trailer left me so worried, but I know the second trailer's in a couple days so I'm hoping that'll restore my hope.

An info drop beyond what the first trailer showed can break my cynicism. I just gotta hang on and be patient another two days.

[AnimeNation101]

Why is there such a low morale from fans for movies before a new trailer comes out?

I can't speak for others, but my morale for this film in particular is low because I'm expecting this to be more of a remake than anything new, plot-wise. Like we're gonna get pretty new locations to be used in future games and beautiful animation, but I feel the only new story stuff will be whatever gags Toriyama wrote. It'll be that + Movie 8 again + Minus + Gogeta.

I love to theorize and it's near impossible when the majority of what they've shown us so far is a retread of previous material.
I could theorize about the three series original arcs in Super. I can't theorize easily about here's Movie 8 with new clothes and fewer characters.
It's hard to theorize when you go in with the mindset that you've been there done that.

I could be and hope to be proven wrong.

My hope that I'm wrong is part of why I'm still following this movie. That and Goku's in it.

You summed it up for me. I’m still very hyped but this is whats holding me back. This movie still lacks narrative originality. No real new ideas. Just an amalgamation of previously used ones.

This is why i hoped the lore was more covering ancient saiyans and Yamoshi stuff. Right now, it seems like the only really “history” we’ll get for the saiyans is Paragus, Broly’s story and maybe some stuff about Vegeta’s childhood, and how Gine dies. Thats it. We already know Bardock’s story. And they haven’t hinted at a reason as to why the rest of the saiyan race is even important to the plot besides Broly, Goku, Vegeta, and their parents.

They promised us “the origins of the saiyans power”. Not saying they won’t deliver. I’m just saying nothing has suggested that they will yet. But I'm keeping my hopes up. Chances are that even if it is what you think it is, it will probably still be my favorite DB movie.