All it says is they're born around the same time. We see Vegeta out on a planet that looks like the one from Minus so he's likely older than Goku still.Bullza wrote:I'm sure it's been answered somewhere but I'll ask again.
Are they doing a retcon so that Goku and Vegeta are now the same age?
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"Three saiyans born at around the same time" does not necessarily mean that they are "the same age". It could mean that they were born in the same generation (10 year gap, maybe?). Plus, we haven't seen the movie yet.Bullza wrote:I'm sure it's been answered somewhere but I'll ask again.
Are they doing a retcon so that Goku and Vegeta are now the same age?
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On that front, has the manga ever suggested what the age difference between Goku and Vegeta was? I don't it ever stating or suggesting Vegeta being "X" years older than Goku.Bullza wrote:I'm sure it's been answered somewhere but I'll ask again.
Are they doing a retcon so that Goku and Vegeta are now the same age?
Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.
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Yeah. We still see Vegeta as a child versus just seeing Goku as an infant.BlueBasilisk wrote:All it says is they're born around the same time. We see Vegeta out on a planet that looks like the one from Minus so he's likely older than Goku still.Bullza wrote:I'm sure it's been answered somewhere but I'll ask again.
Are they doing a retcon so that Goku and Vegeta are now the same age?
Episode of Bardock, Dragon Ball Minus and the Daizenshuu it seems have apparently all mentioned Vegeta being 5 years older.Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:On that front, has the manga ever suggested what the age difference between Goku and Vegeta was? I don't it ever stating or suggesting Vegeta being "X" years older than Goku.Bullza wrote:I'm sure it's been answered somewhere but I'll ask again.
Are they doing a retcon so that Goku and Vegeta are now the same age?
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The pink skin on Freeza makes me think the past segment will place a bigger emphasis on the youthfulness of the four leads compared to the present day. Older material implied Freeza was just this ageless being, but here it looks like we will see a slightly different side of him in the past compared to the present. It does make the apparent agelessness of Zarbon, Dodoria and the Ginyus a little harder to swallow, but doesn't matter. They're probably just a cameo.
Plus, I love Chris Ayres saying "hello monkeys" in his ickle kiddy Freeza voice.
Plus, I love Chris Ayres saying "hello monkeys" in his ickle kiddy Freeza voice.
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I hope we see Bardock's Saiyan team with Dodoria killing them.
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This seems like its going to be 30 minutes, there is no way this is just minusprecita wrote:I hope we see Bardock's Saiyan team with Dodoria killing them.
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No, the pink on Freeza has nothing to do with Freeza's age, heck, nothing has changed with Freeza's age from something else we've seen before. Freeza is the normal age we know him by. Don't get fooled by this new design.Kataphrut wrote:The pink skin on Freeza makes me think the past segment will place a bigger emphasis on the youthfulness of the four leads compared to the present day. Older material implied Freeza was just this ageless being, but here it looks like we will see a slightly different side of him in the past compared to the present. It does make the apparent agelessness of Zarbon, Dodoria and the Ginyus a little harder to swallow, but doesn't matter. They're probably just a cameo.
Plus, I love Chris Ayres saying "hello monkeys" in his ickle kiddy Freeza voice.
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It's such a weird choice of flavor text. Talk about a non-committal way to establish a supposedly important relationship. "Three people with vaguely similar but not particularly precise characteristics..."Oracle wrote:"Three saiyans born at around the same time" does not necessarily mean that they are "the same age". It could mean that they were born in the same generation (10 year gap, maybe?). Plus, we haven't seen the movie yet.Bullza wrote:I'm sure it's been answered somewhere but I'll ask again.
Are they doing a retcon so that Goku and Vegeta are now the same age?
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Hey, guys what if the rebellion in the movie takes place on planet vegeta instead of above it?
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This movie already appears unoriginal enough as it is. The last thing we need is them retreading something else.precita wrote:I hope we see Bardock's Saiyan team with Dodoria killing them.
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Here's a strange idea to explain Vegeta's age, fellas.
What if Vegeta was indeed born at around the same time as Kakarot and Broly....... but left his incubating pod early and thus grew up earlier than Kakarot?
Think this could work?
What if Vegeta was indeed born at around the same time as Kakarot and Broly....... but left his incubating pod early and thus grew up earlier than Kakarot?
Think this could work?
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I'm not saying they've changed his age (have we ever been given a canon age for Freeza?), I'm saying the new design for his first form being different compared to the present is good visual storytelling and implies growth (physical and character-wise). After all, it's weird having a trailer that puts so much emphasis on Goku, Vegeta and Broly as kids compared to their adult selves, but have Freeza look the same as he did forty years ago (albeit in a his final form instead of his first).superfan2024 wrote:No, the pink on Freeza has nothing to do with Freeza's age, heck, nothing has changed with Freeza's age from something else we've seen before. Freeza is the normal age we know him by. Don't get fooled by this new design.Kataphrut wrote:The pink skin on Freeza makes me think the past segment will place a bigger emphasis on the youthfulness of the four leads compared to the present day. Older material implied Freeza was just this ageless being, but here it looks like we will see a slightly different side of him in the past compared to the present. It does make the apparent agelessness of Zarbon, Dodoria and the Ginyus a little harder to swallow, but doesn't matter. They're probably just a cameo.
Plus, I love Chris Ayres saying "hello monkeys" in his ickle kiddy Freeza voice.
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The incubators don't stop the aging process, so that doesn't work.PerhapsTheOtherOne wrote:Here's a strange idea to explain Vegeta's age, fellas.
What if Vegeta was indeed born at around the same time as Kakarot and Broly....... but left his incubating pod early and thus grew up earlier than Kakarot?
Think this could work?
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Also, like...those flashback scenes could be taking place at different times?PerhapsTheOtherOne wrote:Here's a strange idea to explain Vegeta's age, fellas.
What if Vegeta was indeed born at around the same time as Kakarot and Broly....... but left his incubating pod early and thus grew up earlier than Kakarot?
Think this could work?
Seriously, the trailer begins with Freeza conquering Planet Vegeta and ends with him blowing it up. There has to have been at least a few years of the Saiyans actually working for him between those events. So Vegeta could have easily been born around the time Freeza first showed up, while Goku and Broly are born closer to the end.
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Is like that. Might not be as badass but stillDragono wrote:Hey, guys what if the rebellion in the movie takes place on planet vegeta instead of above it?
I called it that Gogeta, Bardock, and something Broly related would be in the movie before it was even announced that it was a Broly movie.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Freeza's appearance has nothing to do with his age. People forget that Freeza's first 3 forms were created mainly to control his power (since he never trained before Super). So the look of his 1st form is likely a result of him still getting the hang of his power. Plus, 1st form Freeza was never shown without amour during the Bardock/King Vegeta era in DBZ, so its excusable.
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That's the best case scenario we can hope for based on the trailer.Dragono wrote:Hey, guys what if the rebellion in the movie takes place on planet vegeta instead of above it?
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If Freeza was ageless then he wouldn't have tried to wish for eternal life. Maybe its just that Freeza's race (and those of his forces) simply has a much longer lifespan than Saiyans, Namekians and Humans.Kataphrut wrote:The pink skin on Freeza makes me think the past segment will place a bigger emphasis on the youthfulness of the four leads compared to the present day. Older material implied Freeza was just this ageless being, but here it looks like we will see a slightly different side of him in the past compared to the present. It does make the apparent agelessness of Zarbon, Dodoria and the Ginyus a little harder to swallow, but doesn't matter. They're probably just a cameo.
Plus, I love Chris Ayres saying "hello monkeys" in his ickle kiddy Freeza voice.
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Someone on the wiki site pointed out you can see Borgos, or at least, somone who looks a lot like him, in one of the crowdsprecita wrote:I hope we see Bardock's Saiyan team with Dodoria killing them.