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Post by SaiyaMel » Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:24 am

Did you guys make those? :!:
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Post by Kendamu » Sun Jan 20, 2008 3:41 am

No. I found it in a Google search.

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Post by Sun_Wukong » Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:39 pm

Super Sonic wrote:Those are interesting pics. And Superman can't breathe in space.
Uh yes he can...

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Post by Kaboom » Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:42 pm

Sun_Wukong wrote:
Super Sonic wrote:Those are interesting pics. And Superman can't breathe in space.
Uh yes he can...
No, he can just hold his breath for a REEEEEAAAAAALLLLY long time. No matter how much of a blue-tighted plot device you are, you can't breathe if there's nothing TO breathe.
Kendamu wrote:No. I found it in a Google search.
What'd you search for? I'd like to see the source myself. Especially the "ever heard of the Super Saiyajin" one.
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Post by Big Momma » Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:50 pm

Wasn't there a comic about this fight?
I've looked everywhere and I can't find it at all >.<

Does anyone know where I can find some scans?
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Post by Kendamu » Sun Jan 20, 2008 6:57 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:
Sun_Wukong wrote:
Super Sonic wrote:Those are interesting pics. And Superman can't breathe in space.
Uh yes he can...
No, he can just hold his breath for a REEEEEAAAAAALLLLY long time. No matter how much of a blue-tighted plot device you are, you can't breathe if there's nothing TO breathe.
Kendamu wrote:No. I found it in a Google search.
What'd you search for? I'd like to see the source myself. Especially the "ever heard of the Super Saiyajin" one.
I searched "superman vs. goku" on Google Images. I found the image at:

http://the13thbastard.deviantart.com/ar ... S-62342154

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Post by Kaboom » Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:03 pm

Big Momma wrote:Wasn't there a comic about this fight?
I've looked everywhere and I can't find it at all >.<
There's one on dA, if that's what you're talking about. But it's lame and WAY Super-biased. Goku doesn't even use SSj1.
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Post by JulieYBM » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:02 am

Holy crap, those pictures are awesom! That third one is just begging for a sequel.
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Post by Kaboom » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:03 am

JulieYBM wrote:Holy crap, those pictures are awesom! That third one is just begging for a sequel.
Yeah, with Supe's disembodied head making a crash-landing on Mars... :D
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Post by JulieYBM » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:13 am

SSj Kaboom wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:Holy crap, those pictures are awesom! That third one is just begging for a sequel.
Yeah, with Supe's disembodied head making a crash-landing on Mars... :D
Hah, I've always seen the battle as being more even then that but yeah, I'd give my vote to Gokû.
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Post by Super Sonic » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:32 am

Sun_Wukong wrote:
Super Sonic wrote:Those are interesting pics. And Superman can't breathe in space.
Uh yes he can...
Which era are you referring to? I was referring to modern as that's when Goku was around as well as you see he can't then.

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Post by Kay » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:12 am

Just found this image:

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/300W/fs7.de ... Kruzer.jpg

EDIT:

There's actually a description of their "official" battle:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/ ... s_goku.jpg

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Post by Kendamu » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:58 am

That "official" battle kind of sucks. The fight was cool, but Goku "sensing" the Dragonballs as well as not making his presence and business known to Superman before engaging in a fight made no sense.

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Post by Big Momma » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:04 am

SSj Kaboom wrote: There's one on dA, if that's what you're talking about. But it's lame and WAY Super-biased. Goku doesn't even use SSj1.
No, I looked it up, and it appeared in Wizard magazine, Sept. 2002 issue, page 64.

EDIT:
Kay has apparently posted it up!
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Post by Kaboom » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:05 am

Big Momma wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote: There's one on dA, if that's what you're talking about. But it's lame and WAY Super-biased. Goku doesn't even use SSj1.
No, I looked it up, and it appeared in Wizard magazine, Sept. 2002 issue, page 64.
Oh. Well, you said "comic," I thought you meant... um... A fan-made comic. That's just an article.
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Post by Big Momma » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:08 am

SSj Kaboom wrote:
Big Momma wrote:
SSj Kaboom wrote: There's one on dA, if that's what you're talking about. But it's lame and WAY Super-biased. Goku doesn't even use SSj1.
No, I looked it up, and it appeared in Wizard magazine, Sept. 2002 issue, page 64.
Oh. Well, you said "comic," I thought you meant... um... A fan-made comic. That's just an article.
Yeah, I didn't really know much about it.
Now that I've read it, though, I think I'll make a comic based on it...but I can't really draw Superman.
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Post by Taku128 » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:55 am

I always love these threads. They always talk about how Superman would suffocate Goku in space, or how Goku would vaporize Superman with a Kamehameha, but they never touch upon one problem in the situation.

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Post by Gorrilian » Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:05 am

TheGreatness25 wrote:Well if you think about it, every epic story is just a copy of a previous one, with new characters and a different setting.

Now you'll never catch me saying that I'm religious at all. But, having taken Literature class, I kind of see that...every story basically comes from the bible and the old testament. That book had villains, struggle, plague, conflict, murder, and of course, a hero. Think about it.

Every ancient writing had basically the same stories with different characters and setting. I should know, because I had to read all of them. Think about it.

Compare Jesus and Hercules. Both sons of Gods, but born to humans. Both saviors in their own way. Hercules was a savior with his strength and physically helping people, and Jesus was a savior spiritually, and helped people find their own way. Now, take Superman.

Superman is the last of a race, who are superior to regular humans. Sent down from a far away place. But he has no selfishness and no selflessness. All he lives for, all he breathes for is to help those who cannot help themselves. He is the savior. Superman is the comic book modern day version of Jesus, wrapped up in a nice red and blue package. Jesus had his conflict with Satan, Superman has his conflicts from time to time with his internal devil, which tells him to become selfish and take what he wants. But of course, just like Jesus walked away from Satan, Superman never strays down the path of selfishness, he never gives in to his internal demons.

Now, Goku is basically the same deal. How many stories are JUST like that? Where there is someone unique, sent from somewhere else to help those who can't help themselves. It's everywhere. Every epic story seems to be like that. So it's not the first time, it's not the last time, and it's very, VERY common.

There is just something that attracts people to the idea of a single person sent from somewhere else, put here with no ego, with no selfishness, to protect those who cannot protect themselves.
Do not forget that the Save The Baby origin has been done since the time of Moses, such as in his tale of escape from death as a baby floating down the Nile river. There is really nothing new under the sun, only the unfamiliar and unexperienced.
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Post by Sun_Wukong » Mon Jan 21, 2008 11:27 am

Kay wrote: There's actually a description of their "official" battle:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/ ... s_goku.jpg

That's from Wizard magazine #133, they had an east vs west issue

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Post by KinoFourpaws » Mon Jan 21, 2008 6:23 pm

The Time Traveller wrote:... and the only way green rocks could hurt Goku is if he had to think of a way to eat with them as spoons.
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SSj Kaboom wrote:
Sun_Wukong wrote:
Super Sonic wrote:Those are interesting pics. And Superman can't breathe in space.
Uh yes he can...
No, he can just hold his breath for a REEEEEAAAAAALLLLY long time. No matter how much of a blue-tighted plot device you are, you can't breathe if there's nothing TO breathe.
Also, one's head typically explodes in space without protection. As to why? It's a big vacuum. Not only would Superman (and Freeza and his family, for that matter) have to be able to deal with the lack of air to breathe, their bodies would also have to be able to deal with the lack of pressure in the outside environment.

Of course, these are super-powered aliens we're talking about, so I suppose that issue doesn't really apply. <_< Yay moot points!

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