Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[kudo6000]

This is the least that can be done.

Doesn’t look right. Also, the significance of the headband in the special held more weight considering that was the blood of his comrade. That edit just makes it look like an ordinary headband just placed there to appease people who liked the special.

[Grimlock]

Also, the significance of the headband in the special held more weight considering that was the blood of his comrade. That edit just makes it look like an ordinary headband just placed there to appease people who liked the special.

Yes, we will probably lose the real significance of the headband but still, it is iconic to Bardock, can't really just take that away too. It's not just to appease people who liked the TV Special, as Bardock with the headband is also in the manga/DBO. So it's a matter of, you know, "getting things right" too.

Oh, and it also helps giving a more unique feature/appearance to Bardock, otherwise he'd be just another Goku and Goten. There is a reason why all Super Saiyan forms look better on Bardock, that is the presence of his scar and the headband.

[Jackalope89]

Also, the significance of the headband in the special held more weight considering that was the blood of his comrade. That edit just makes it look like an ordinary headband just placed there to appease people who liked the special.

Yes, we will probably lose the real significance of the headband but still, it is iconic to Bardock, can't really just take that away too. It's not just to appease people who liked the TV Special, as Bardock with the headband is also in the manga/DBO. So it's a matter of, you know, "getting things right" too.

Oh, and it also helps giving a more unique feature/appearance to Bardock, otherwise he'd be just another Goku and Goten. There is a reason why all Super Saiyan forms look better on Bardock, that is the presence of his scar and the headband.

WRONG!

Goku and Goten are just other versions of Bardock!

[Miracles]

Freeza, Goku, Vegeta and Broly's fates connect... I wonder how Freeza play a role in this movie. No doubt Paragus is gonna have some words for him or maybe not. What I really hope is that everyone finds out Beerus is the one who ordered the death of the Saiyans.

[nato25]

I really hate the Beerus ordered the destruction of the planet thing.

First it made no sense with the original Bardock special, Freeza doesn't mention Beerus at all (not that he really has to but still) and it is incredibly obvious that he is wiping out the threat of the Saiyans for his own personal reasons, not based on an order.

Second, as if Beerus wouldn't wipe it out him self. Sure we've seen him do very little actual destroying, but surely he's not just asking Freeza (how did they even meet) to do things for him.

[Mewzard]

Yes, we will probably lose the real significance of the headband but still, it is iconic to Bardock, can't really just take that away too.

I mean...can't? Pre-headband edit, that's almost a direct shot from the Dragon Ball Minus chapter, only with less battle damage for some reason. That was 4 years ago. It happened then, and is happening now. Like Kudo said, without the scene introducing it, it's really just to placate fans.

That said, said headband didn't appear in the special until late into it.

It's entirely possible Bardock could get the headband later. Him having it from the beginning would be just as odd as no inclusion, really.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Whats the point of Vegeta using SSG in this movie? He didn't use it at all in the anime and even in the 1st trailer we already saw (Ikari) Broly going toe to toe with SSB Goku. Unless thats the form that Gogeta ends up using which would be cool I guess

It seems they want to streamline forms for Goku & Vegeta, since SS2 Vegeta doesn't look any different (did he even use that form in the ToP?) they probably settled on SS -> SSG -> SSGSS. That way we have a distinct difference between each of the three forms. Everyone then knows what's up.

As for Gogeta, Gogeta Blue is I think a definite as SSGSS is the mascot form for modern DB ain't gonna miss that opportunity with Gogeta. However it's looking increasingly likely that Mr. Gogeta will have at least two forms so Gogeta God could still happen aswell.

[Luso Saiyan]

I mean, changing the story Is one thing but can't Toriyama just not keep the same designs for his characters? It only adds to further frustration lol

When did Toriyama ever change Freeza's design and color scheme?

It was the Toei that changed it. And now, for the first time ever, they are staying true to Toriyama's.

[Grimlock]

WRONG!

Goku and Goten are just other versions of Bardock!

Well, yeah, correct.

I mean...can't? Pre-headband edit, that's almost a direct shot from the Dragon Ball Minus chapter, only with less battle damage for some reason. That was 4 years ago. It happened then, and is happening now. Like Kudo said, without the scene introducing it, it's really just to placate fans.

That said, said headband didn't appear in the special until late into it.

It's entirely possible Bardock could get the headband later. Him having it from the beginning would be just as odd as no inclusion, really.

I'm sure you know that the point of my post was not to say that Bardock should already have the headband, but that he must get it eventually and appears with it on-screen.

[Jackalope89]

I really hate the Beerus ordered the destruction of the planet thing.

First it made no sense with the original Bardock special, Freeza doesn't mention Beerus at all (not that he really has to but still) and it is incredibly obvious that he is wiping out the threat of the Saiyans for his own personal reasons, not based on an order.

Second, as if Beerus wouldn't wipe it out him self. Sure we've seen him do very little actual destroying, but surely he's not just asking Freeza (how did they even meet) to do things for him.

Beerus wasn't even a concept back in the early 90s when it was made. So of course he wouldn't be mentioned.

[BlueBasilisk]

So I wonder if Frieza's "missing" chest plate is just part of his second form transformation? There are several panels where you can see under the pauldrons on his armor and there's nothing under there:

Spoiler:

The plate only appears after Vegeta goads him into transforming. He says he'll oblige, cracks his armor off, and then starts growing huge. I saw someone point out on twitter that we see first form Kuriza take his armor off in Neko Majin Z and:

Spoiler:

Might explain why the storyboard of him without armor in RoF was adjusted. Doesn't explain the missing stripes unless he's wearing some kind of body suit though.

[TheOne]

I really hate the Beerus ordered the destruction of the planet thing.

First it made no sense with the original Bardock special, Freeza doesn't mention Beerus at all (not that he really has to but still) and it is incredibly obvious that he is wiping out the threat of the Saiyans for his own personal reasons, not based on an order.

Second, as if Beerus wouldn't wipe it out him self. Sure we've seen him do very little actual destroying, but surely he's not just asking Freeza (how did they even meet) to do things for him.

As you can tell, Beerus and was nowhere in their thought process at the time when they wrote the Special. It’s painfully obvious.

I think at this point they should just start the Dragon Ball series over and just adjust the story as they see fit. They are obviously wanting to go into more detail with the series, which is perfectly fine! It just makes it hard to watch all these subtle changes in a story that was already established.

[AnimeNation101]

Consider this

Spoiler:

Most of the worries here are about Bardock. So why would the 3rd trailer which you assume will be about Gogeta erase our worries about Bardock? They’re completely unrelated. Sure, the 3rd trailer might be hype but that wont get rid of the problems people have about what they might have done to Bardock and his iconic moment.

You are speaking as though Bardock is the most important part of this movie, which he isn't as he is just meant to represent Goku's father like Paragus and King Vegeta do to the other 2.

Bardock is the most important part of the problem people had with the trailer. So thats why he’s been brought up so many times by people these past few days

[Miracles]

Bardock has always been overrated. His place or appearance in the story doesn't make or break the movie.

[dbgtFO]

So I wonder if Frieza's "missing" chest plate is just part of his second form transformation? There are several panels where you can see under the pauldrons on his armor and there's nothing under there:

Spoiler:

The plate only appears after Vegeta goads him into transforming. He says he'll oblige, cracks his armor off, and then starts growing huge. I saw someone point out on twitter that we see first form Kuriza take his armor off in Neko Majin Z and:

Spoiler:

Good point.
I am under the impression that the lack of stripes on his arms could be because of his young age and they won't appear there until he's older, like wrinkles.

[BlueBasilisk]

So I wonder if Frieza's "missing" chest plate is just part of his second form transformation? There are several panels where you can see under the pauldrons on his armor and there's nothing under there:

Spoiler:

The plate only appears after Vegeta goads him into transforming. He says he'll oblige, cracks his armor off, and then starts growing huge. I saw someone point out on twitter that we see first form Kuriza take his armor off in Neko Majin Z and:

Spoiler:

Good point.
I am under the impression that the lack of stripes on his arms could be because of his young age and they won't appear there until he's older, like wrinkles.

Entirely possible. It's not at all clear what they are. Namek, Minus and Resurrection F Frieza and Kuriza have them. King Cold, Broly Frieza and Frost don't.

While hunting for these references, I noticed that Frieza tells Vegeta in chapter 296 that he personally fought and killed King Vegeta during his attack on Planet Vegeta. I think that'll be how we get our Bardock scene. Bardock is part of the attack where this fight happens, stands against Frieza and gets killed too. Maybe the last Saiyan standing to mirror Vegeta and Goku vs Frieza on Namek?

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

So I wonder if Frieza's "missing" chest plate is just part of his second form transformation? There are several panels where you can see under the pauldrons on his armor and there's nothing under there:

Spoiler:

The plate only appears after Vegeta goads him into transforming. He says he'll oblige, cracks his armor off, and then starts growing huge. I saw someone point out on twitter that we see first form Kuriza take his armor off in Neko Majin Z and:

Spoiler:

Might explain why the storyboard of him without armor in RoF was adjusted. Doesn't explain the missing stripes unless he's wearing some kind of body suit though.

Thank you for pointing this out! I wanted to make a post similar to this but couldn't find a post like that Neko Majin Z panel to back it up. And yeah it also explains why the scene of Freeza's resurrection in 'F' looked different to the storyboard.

[PFM18]

Alright so we are all wondering obviously how they are going to come up with an excuse to use Gogeta instead of Vegetto. I have a theory as to how that could work:

Broly is fighting Goku and Vegeta for a while and growing stronger as he fights, and then finally uses his LSSJ form and blows everybody away. Beerus senses it and thinks that it would be a fun fight to fight Broly,since we know he is interested in fighting strong opponents like we saw in BoG. (Or Broly destroys some food tray or something) Beerus confronts Broly and they are fighting fairly evenly but Broly's power is continuing to grow. Then, somehow it is brought up that Beerus authorized Planet Vegeta's destruction at the hands of Freeza. Then, Broly lets loose into a fit of rage, accelerating his power growth. As a result, Broly mercilessly kills Beerus. Since Beerus and Kaioshin are a pair who's lives are tied together, he also dies and so they cannot use his potara to make Vegetto. As a last resort, with potara fusion out of the question, and this behemoth of a character in front of them, they decide to fuse with the fusion dance as Freeza distracts/holds off Broly realizing that this guy is out of control and will kill him if Goku and Vegeta don't fuse.

TL;DR: Brolly kills Beerus and so Kaioshin can't give them potara because they both die when Beerus dies.

I honestly want Beerus to die in this movie so badly. It would REALLY establish tension and would be a shock to everyone involved. Also it wouldn't contradict EoZ because Beerus obviously isn't there during EoZ.

[Dbzfan94]

Alright so we are all wondering obviously how they are going to come up with an excuse to use Gogeta instead of Vegetto. I have a theory as to how that could work:

Broly is fighting Goku and Vegeta for a while and growing stronger as he fights, and then finally uses his LSSJ form and blows everybody away. Beerus senses it and thinks that it would be a fun fight to fight Broly,since we know he is interested in fighting strong opponents like we saw in BoG. (Or Broly destroys some food tray or something) Beerus confronts Broly and they are fighting fairly evenly but Broly's power is continuing to grow. Then, somehow it is brought up that Beerus authorized Planet Vegeta's destruction at the hands of Freeza. Then, Broly lets loose into a fit of rage, accelerating his power growth. As a result, Broly mercilessly kills Beerus. Since Beerus and Kaioshin are a pair who's lives are tied together, he also dies and so they cannot use his potara to make Vegetto. As a last resort, with potara fusion out of the question, and this behemoth of a character in front of them, they decide to fuse with the fusion dance as Freeza distracts/holds off Broly realizing that this guy is out of control and will kill him if Goku and Vegeta don't fuse.

TL;DR: Brolly kills Beerus and so Kaioshin can't give them potara because they both die when Beerus dies.

I honestly want Beerus to die in this movie so badly. It would REALLY establish tension and would be a shock to everyone involved. Also it wouldn't contradict EoZ because Beerus obviously isn't there during EoZ.

Good idea but they don't have the balls to do something that interesting. It'll be the same old same old and Broly will probably turn good or be left alive so he can come out of nowhere and fight again.

[CTAkuma]

Alright so we are all wondering obviously how they are going to come up with an excuse to use Gogeta instead of Vegetto. I have a theory as to how that could work:

Broly is fighting Goku and Vegeta for a while and growing stronger as he fights, and then finally uses his LSSJ form and blows everybody away. Beerus senses it and thinks that it would be a fun fight to fight Broly,since we know he is interested in fighting strong opponents like we saw in BoG. (Or Broly destroys some food tray or something) Beerus confronts Broly and they are fighting fairly evenly but Broly's power is continuing to grow. Then, somehow it is brought up that Beerus authorized Planet Vegeta's destruction at the hands of Freeza. Then, Broly lets loose into a fit of rage, accelerating his power growth. As a result, Broly mercilessly kills Beerus. Since Beerus and Kaioshin are a pair who's lives are tied together, he also dies and so they cannot use his potara to make Vegetto. As a last resort, with potara fusion out of the question, and this behemoth of a character in front of them, they decide to fuse with the fusion dance as Freeza distracts/holds off Broly realizing that this guy is out of control and will kill him if Goku and Vegeta don't fuse.

TL;DR: Brolly kills Beerus and so Kaioshin can't give them potara because they both die when Beerus dies.

I honestly want Beerus to die in this movie so badly. It would REALLY establish tension and would be a shock to everyone involved. Also it wouldn't contradict EoZ because Beerus obviously isn't there during EoZ.

Agree with this, i want Beerus to die so we can finally move on from the lack of tension that was Super