Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[BlueBasilisk]

That was an issue in the anime too, it just wasn't as bad as the manga. They brought it up a couple times as to why Goku didn't just turn blue for the duration of both tournaments. I noticed that it also mentioned that Vegeta got God Ki from training with Whis. I guess that clears up how he got SSG!

Also at Bulma wishing herself younger. She's already aging in reverse.

Goku and Vegeta both reached the mastered/controled SSJB state after the Trunks arc (Goku during) so I really don't get this stamina issue. In the anime they also had no problem with Blue in the ToP arc so this is just stupid.

It was brought up in the tournament too, once in 104 when Goku used SSG against Dyspo and I think when he used it to knock off Nink before that. It's acknowledged as being a thing but it's downplayed so that it doesn't seem to be nearly as bad as 3. The ToP was running on Frieza Time so while they were using it off and on quite a bit, it was only a few seconds to a couple minutes in-universe. I think the longest continuous stretch was during the climax from 122-127 which accounted for ~5-6 minutes in-universe. I haven't seen the Future Trunks arc for a little while so I can't say much about that.

It is stupid Toriyama is so fixated on it but I also wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't factor into the movie very heavily either. Promo material for this series has been notoriously misleading so I'm not gonna worry much about some cards in a candy pack.

“Bulma wants to wish for youth.”

For what purpose?

Zuno told her she was starting to sag.

[WittyUsername]

Bulma wanting to be younger might’ve been funnier if they didn’t draw Bulma looking younger than she looked during the Cell and Buu arcs.

Also, this whole thing about SSJB having stamina problems has always confused me, given that it didn’t seem to be a problem in Ressurection ‘F’.

[zarmack]

At this point, I'm convinced that most of what made DB(Z) great came from Toriyama's editors rather than the man himself.

Why is he still using the stamina thing for SSB? Hasn't Goku and Vegeta gotten over that in both the manga and anime? Both of them were using CSSB in the ToP with no stamina issues, and Goku and Vegeta were using SSB against damn near everybody in the ToP anime. Its like Toriyama doesn't even read his own work and nobody at Toei or Shueisha is there to call him out on his nonsense.

[ekrolo2]

Beerus is the object of Vegeta's obsession the same way I'm Batman.

[Doctor.]

Beerus is the object of Vegeta's obsession the same way I'm Batman.

I'm guessing this is the Toriyama paper napkin continuity where SSB keeps having stamina problems even though those have been long solved 2 arcs ago in the anime and manga.

[PFM18]

Herms translated some movie promo cards


https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1053715561165647872



I think this hints that broly will survive and maybe even join the cast

Also ssb apparently has huge stamina issues in this film

Yes, Blue has always had stamina issues in both manga and anime. Toriyama is juts carrying out his story.

apparently not in the ToP. Although to be fair, the ToP is only a 48 minute fight

[ekrolo2]

I'm guessing this is the Toriyama paper napkin continuity where SSB keeps having stamina problems even though those have been long solved 2 arcs ago in the anime and manga.

Yeah those stamina problems that were a problem a grand total of ONCE and only in the manga. The ones that don't prevent exhausted people from farting it out whenever they need it in the ToP constantly.

[Mister_Popo]

Blue permits perfect Ki-control, so when Blue wouldn't have stamina issues, they wouldn't have to use the classic forms at all during combat to test their opponents first.
Blue having stamina issues is just an 'excuse' to bring back the golden and red forms.

[ekrolo2]

Blue permits perfect Ki-control, so when Blue wouldn't have stamina issues, they wouldn't have to use the classic forms at all during combat to test their opponents first.
Blue having stamina issues is just an 'excuse' to bring back the golden and red forms.

I might be okay with this if they presented the stamina problems. Its just a feature they've kept reiterating for almost 3 years now and it has only ever been a problem once, and just in the manga at that. The ToP abuses the form so much its impossible to take it seriously.

[Doctor.]

Blue permits perfect Ki-control, so when Blue wouldn't have stamina issues, they wouldn't have to use the classic forms at all during combat to test their opponents first.
Blue having stamina issues is just an 'excuse' to bring back the golden and red forms.

I might be okay with this if they presented the stamina problems. Its just a feature they've kept reiterating for almost 3 years now and it has only ever been a problem once, and just in the manga at that. The ToP abuses the form so much its impossible to take it seriously.

I'd rather it not be a thing at all instead of us having to constantly wait for the moment where Goku starts arbitrarily losing just because the writers couldn't think of anything else.

[PFM18]

Kid Vegeta's design is one of those damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't things. When the BoG movie came out I remember hearing people complain about Kid Vegeta having his huge forehead and no bangs. That was carried over into Minus. Then the Super anime and manga both used the old anime Kid Vegeta design, and here we are.

better they fix it now than never. Have Kid Vegeta actually consistent with what we were told was true about Saiyan biology

[BlueBasilisk]

Kid Vegeta's design is one of those damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't things. When the BoG movie came out I remember hearing people complain about Kid Vegeta having his huge forehead and no bangs. That was carried over into Minus. Then the Super anime and manga both used the old anime Kid Vegeta design, and here we are.

better they fix it now than never. Have Kid Vegeta actually consistent with what we were told was true about Saiyan biology

Yet they stuck with King Vegeta having reddish brown hair. Toriyama was quoted over on the Bardock page as not minding if it wasn't black even though that's how he personally envisioned it so I guess he doesn't think it's that big a deal.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

They also have UK listed for January 25, 2019. But again, I can't find any announcement from an official source.

Definitely hasn't been an announcement of any sort. Hmm. I hope someone isn't playing games here.

I think I found their source for Ukraine...?
https://ua.kinorium.com/1660888

Good find! They have accurate JPN and Dub casts so seems legitimate.

More confident about UK now too. MCM is next week, should be announed there hopefully!

[PFM18]

Bulma wanting to be younger might’ve been funnier if they didn’t draw Bulma looking younger than she looked during the Cell and Buu arcs.

Also, this whole thing about SSJB having stamina problems has always confused me, given that it didn’t seem to be a problem in Ressurection ‘F’.

I think the idea is that it just has more stamina problems than the golden/SSG forms who have next to no stamina consumption. So relatively speaking, it has "stamina problems"

Blue permits perfect Ki-control, so when Blue wouldn't have stamina issues, they wouldn't have to use the classic forms at all during combat to test their opponents first.
Blue having stamina issues is just an 'excuse' to bring back the golden and red forms.

Yeah exactly.

[Miracles]

Herms translated some movie promo cards


https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1053715561165647872



I think this hints that broly will survive and maybe even join the cast

Also ssb apparently has huge stamina issues in this film

Yes, Blue has always had stamina issues in both manga and anime. Toriyama is juts carrying out his story.

apparently not in the ToP. Although to be fair, the ToP is only a 48 minute fight

The plan was not to use Blue at the start of battles but to pace themselves against opponents. They only used Blue when they had to. Whis makes this point clear at the start of the TOP.

[BlueBasilisk]

https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1053802196511293441 This week's interview is Sumitomo. He talks about composing for the movie (obviously).

[Super Saiyan Swagger]

I found out where that shot of SSJB Goku came from a few pages back.

Spoiler:

This was from the official Dragon Ball website. There are some shots here that we haven't seen before, like the one with Beerus and that shot with Cheelia on Planet Vampa next to Freeza's ship.

[SSJgogeto]

https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/1053802196511293441 This week's interview is Sumitomo. He talks about composing for the movie (obviously).

Talking about the soundtrack, I don't know if this will be a problem or not. Two songs in the trailers are very similar to these other two songs here.

[Shaddy]

They are the same. It's stock licensed music they just used for the trailers. I'm pretty sure one of them was in the trailer for Doctor Strange as well. I'm sure everything you hear from Sumitomo in the movie will be him and not Yamamoto-esque blatant plagiarism

[SSJgogeto]

That's a relief.