Offical PLs?

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 2:33 am

Well, a new Fanfic idea has hit me, but it requires all the outer space baddies (Raditz - Frieza) to have their offical powers. Now I know some of these but not all of them, and my Google search has proven worthless. (I found 3 sites with the exact same, WRONG, list. I mean, SSJ Goku at 3,000,000? FP Frieza at 2,500,000? Where do these people get this stuff?)

Anyway, I was hoping someone knew a site that had the offical powers from the Daizenshuu, or had the Daizenshuu in question and would be willing to post them for me?

TGDweezl · Post by **TGDweezl** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 8:42 am

These are from a magazine I have, they claim these are the offical PLs frmo the manga. I'll start at Raditz and go from there:

Gohan during Raditz: 1-1307
Goku: 416
Piccolo: 408
Raditz: 1500
Saibamen: 1200
Nappa: 400
Vegeta: 18000
Goku: 8000
Goku 4xKaioKen: 32000
Vegeta arriving on Namek: 24000
Vegeta max on Namek: 30000
Frieza's first form max: 530000
Goku vs. Ginyu Force: 90000
Goku vs. Ginyu: 180000
Ginyu: 120000
Ginyu in Goku's body: 23000
Goku vs. Frieza: 300000
Frieza final form, 50% power: 6000000
Frieza final form, 100% power: 12000000
Goku, SSJ: 15000000

If there's anything that didn't need to be in there sorry I'm kinda tired.
The list I have goes from the Piccolo and Goku in DB to Trunks' supressed PL when he arrives. The rest of the Ginyu Force's PLs were not listed. Ask if you want anything else.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 12:03 pm

Those aren't only manga like the magazine said. MOST are from Daizenshuu 7's PL guide.

They also omitted things like Krillin and Gohan's post-Saichoru PLs of 13,000 and 14,000. It also explains that Oozaru are 10x stronger than untransformed Saiyans, and elsewhere in the daizenshu it states that SSJ makes you 50x stronger. (ex: Oozaru Vegeta would be 180,000)

Taken from bios you also get:
Dodoria has a PL of "around 22,000"
Zarbon (untransformed) "around 23,000"
Piccolo (after fusing w/Nail): 1 million
Nappa: "In the 4000s" (PL section states just 4,000. I'm guessing he's close to 5,000 once he charges up)
Generic Freeza goons: always around 1,500. From this we can assume how weak Guldo was since his strength was the time freeze bit.

From the manga there's also:
Cui or Kiwi or whatever the purple fuck's name was: 18,000
2nd form Freeza: "At least 1 million"
Radditz: 1,200. (Daizenshuu PL section said 1,500, but elsewhere on many occasions it said he was 1,200)

NOTE: Logically you can deduce that Saiyan race isn't 00ber strong like the Ginyu force. They're strength comes from they're constant PL evolution, Oozaru, etc. It's stated in the anime and manga many times that Vegeta's an 00ber-saiyan and when we first see him his PL is only 18,000. Later he shrugs off the statement of how the king died, since he says he was already stronger than his father when he was a little kid. It explains how an elite saiyan like Nappa only has a PL in the 4,000s. The king was probably only in the 5,000s.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 3:19 pm

The Daizenshuu also explains how kaioken works, btw, stating that it multiplies the user's un-kaiokened PL by the amount it's used. That's why Kaio didn't want Goku too surpass x2: it's supposed to be used in incriments once your body adjusts, but the difference from x2 to x3 is the same as x0 to x2.

If you don't care about the explanation, note that it stated kaioken x2 to be 16,000, and we can assume kaioken x3 is 24,000 (8,000x3) since we know Goku's pl reached over 21,000 when Bulma's scouter and because kaioken x4 was 32,000 (8,000 x4).

Other "official" PLs include the 3 nameks that got blown to death by Freeza in the anime only (I stand by how I phrased that) which were 10,000 each.

In the Boo saga, Yakon is rated in at 800 "Kiris" whereas SSJ Goku is at 3,000. When I looked up what Kiris were, it stated that 20-30 Kiris are required to blow up 2 small planets.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 4:20 pm

Nail was at 42.000 during his fight with Freeza.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 5:08 pm

Well, I can use most of that, but some is going ot be switched up just to make things more smooth. Hehe, this story is going to be one heck of ride I think. Just to try and work up some possible interest it's time for...

[Shameless Plug]
Alright, story starts at start of DBZ with the start of the 24th Budokai. Fighting in the Budokai are: Goku, Gohan, Krillin, Tien, Piccolo, Android 13, Android 14, and Android 15. (Androids are weaker than the movies, for obvious reasons.) After those three more Androids come and this takes about a year to finish and Goku winds up dead.

He still gets King Kai's training though, for all the good he's done. Just as he's about to get wished back after his year of training 4 space pods crash into the Earth. In the pods are Turles, Raditz, Nappa, and Vegeta.

From there they go to Namek but there's no Ginyu Force or Frieza on Namek and after a series of events the Namek Dragonballs fade for good. Vegeta and the Saiya-jins go off elsewhere while the other go back to Earth.

Now the two sides have their own adventures. On Earth Cell is born and comes along while Vegeta and the others deal with the Ginyu Force. Eventually the Saiya-jin make an alliance with Cooler to bring down Cold and Frieza.

Back on Earth the Z Warriors go to the lookout to train in the RoSaT and run into Garlic Jr. After that the Saiya-jins and Cooler arrive on Earth for the final section of the story and the ending wont be a 'Happy Ending' exactly.

[/Shameless Plug]

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 8:12 pm

Blegh! It seems like too much. If you're going to make seperate stories do seperate fics and just mention that they take place at the same time in an author's note. Then when Vegeta+co arrive on Earth it'll be a crossover.

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 10:02 pm

Here are my official, undeniable power levels.

Raditz: Really weak

Freeza: Still weak

Cell: Getting stronger...

Majin Boo: Daaaaamn strong.

I hope you found these enlightening.

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:22 pm

Looks flawless, Deus. Unless you count considering somebody who could blow up planets as weak a flaw, of course.

Deus ex Machina · Post by **Deus ex Machina** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:27 pm

You have a point. But I think writing "Strong, stronger, even stronger" might get redundant.

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Wed Jun 16, 2004 11:32 pm

It's okay. I know you mean in comparison.

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 3:02 am

Dayspring wrote:Blegh! It seems like too much. If you're going to make seperate stories do seperate fics and just mention that they take place at the same time in an author's note. Then when Vegeta+co arrive on Earth it'll be a crossover.

That's the idea though, the 'a lot going on' thing. It's called Unrivaled and will even feature the Supreme Kai now and then making coments about things... there's an underlying reason why so much crap is happening at once.

TGDweezl · Post by **TGDweezl** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 8:24 am

Well, I look forward to reading it. Hopefully you won't confuse the readers with all the stuff going on.

Izlude · Post by **Izlude** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 10:45 pm

Deus ex Machina wrote:Here are my official, undeniable power levels.

Raditz: Really weak

Freeza: Still weak

Cell: Getting stronger...

Majin Boo: Daaaaamn strong.

Bebi: Godly l33t awesome strong

Li-Shenrong: THE Strongest

SSJ4 Gogeta: Jesus

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 10:48 pm

Izlude wrote: Bebi: Godly l33t awesome strong

Li-Shenrong: THE Strongest

SSJ4 Gogeta: Jesus

Fuck you. Seriously.

B-kun · Post by **B-kun** » Thu Jun 17, 2004 10:54 pm

XD I like him.

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:43 pm

What's the matter, Dayspring? Can't stand people adding GT into your math?

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 5:22 pm

GT makes me feel dirty. And I KNOW dirty.

Izlude · Post by **Izlude** » Sat Jun 19, 2004 5:34 pm

Dayspring wrote:GT makes me feel dirty. And I KNOW dirty.

Step into the grand tour muthaz

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sun Jun 20, 2004 3:43 pm

Izlude wrote:
Dayspring wrote:GT makes me feel dirty. And I KNOW dirty.
Step into the grand tour muthaz

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