Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"
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The worst case scenario is that Yamamuro continues to be the character designer of the TV series while Shintani only works on the films, like Hisada Kazuya and Satou Masayuki currently do for One Piece.
Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Its a shame that Japanese businesses tend to run on seniority rather than merit. If they ran on the later, Yamamuro would have been fired after the first arc of GT.JulieYBM wrote:The worst case scenario is that Yamamuro continues to be the character designer of the TV series while Shintani only works on the films, like Hisada Kazuya and Satou Masayuki currently do for One Piece.
Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Yamamuro didn't do GT's designs, that was Nakatsuru, whose traits he adopted and exacerbated later on.
Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
It typically depends on the project but Dragon Ball is unfortunately a project where the senior member gets an undue skip to the beginning of the line.zarmack wrote:Its a shame that Japanese businesses tend to run on seniority rather than merit. If they ran on the later, Yamamuro would have been fired after the first arc of GT.JulieYBM wrote:The worst case scenario is that Yamamuro continues to be the character designer of the TV series while Shintani only works on the films, like Hisada Kazuya and Satou Masayuki currently do for One Piece.
Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
What? Why it would be stupid? We don't know jack about Freeza's race than they were mutant people that has tons of transformations to hold their power. If it was dropped before that's an actual trait of young "Frost demons", I would be fine with that, but no, it was just out of nowhere.PFM18 wrote:...yeah that was a Freeza from 40+ years ago. It isn't particularly unreasonable to think Freeza looked different such a long time ago. In fact, it would be stupid if he DIDN'T look different.Noah wrote:Other than his pointless redesign? Not really willing to know.
Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
we have no indication that they are these ageless beings that are impervious to natural aging like everyone else. Therefore, we assume that they age normally like everyone else, and 40+ years is a long time to be aging. I don't see any issue with a much younger Freeza looking different. I mean, we don't have much indication either way, so it doesn't contradict anything that he has brighter colors and looks younger. Besides, we literally only have 1 panel of that flashback in the original manga where we see this Freeza blowing up Vegeta so we can barely even draw any conclusions about what he looked back then in the original work too.Noah wrote:What? Why it would be stupid? We don't know jack about Freeza's race than they were mutant people that has tons of transformations to hold their power. If it was dropped before that's an actual trait of young "Frost demons", I would be fine with that, but no, it was just out of nowhere.PFM18 wrote:...yeah that was a Freeza from 40+ years ago. It isn't particularly unreasonable to think Freeza looked different such a long time ago. In fact, it would be stupid if he DIDN'T look different.Noah wrote:Other than his pointless redesign? Not really willing to know.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Apologies if this was posted before but I saw lots of lovely images from the Dragon Ball Skytree event and in addition to those images (where we also got all those new design) there was a little bit of animation shown as well. It looked beautiful to me 
https://youtu.be/V92deZdy_yY

https://youtu.be/V92deZdy_yY
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Looks like this month we will have new dragon ball super arc according to geekdom 

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Yes, Goku should have all the colors in his attire that his hair can turn into...Shaddy wrote:No it doesn't. A lack of consistency or synchronization is part of why modern Dragon Ball's colors are so fucking awful.Melkaniator wrote:The fact that he doesn't have it shows it's not necessary.
...nice logic.
Oh, so, that's how your mind works, interesting to say the least.Shaddy wrote:Because this is a place of discussion? When you basically just go "Y'ALL WRONG I SAY IT'S SHIT", I'm not sure what exactly you expected in response.Melkaniator wrote:Who says it's so important?
You take it as something important that has to be on an argument apparently, I'm here just expressing my opinion, you're the one that wants me to defend my every point of view.
My opinion doesn't mean "everyone else's wrong" and it's not to be taking so ridiculously personal, but if you can't control it, I can't expect anything else I guess.
It's as the Broly movie's art, which is why it looks inferior.Shaddy wrote:The art on the cards is drawn by separate artists, it's only as tangentially related to the movie as Heroes itself is promotional game material for Dragon Ball in general.Melkaniator wrote:The promotional coloring book example is in the oranges and apples area of comparisons.
The art of Broly movie DBH cards have the art of the movie, coloring books are too different to Infinity War.
You don't need to agree, and I'm not trying to convince you, but since you see all of this as me attacking everyone else's opinion on this movie, yeah, let's make it an infinite argument.
YOU responded to a post where that was already in it, might as well read the whole thing if you're responding to it.Shaddy wrote:I've responded to what you've said to me.Melkaniator wrote:You're the one avoiding the fact that I put there that this movie isn't going to explore anything I'm interested in.
If it's not there, then it's only on your head, It's beyond obvious.Shaddy wrote:Do you really not see the hypocrisy in claiming that you're not deflecting or condescending to anyone at all and then immediately trying to make everything the other person's fault?Melkaniator wrote: And still claiming I'm trying to give a "false sense of superiority" and evidently I'm not, thus it's all on your head.
As there's no such intention from my part, it can only be you feeling inferior, thus again, I inform you, it's on you, not my problem.Shaddy wrote:Are you deliberately misunderstanding me? Nobody condescending that hard actually succeeds in looking superior. They just look desperate.Melkaniator wrote: Feeling inferior?
Not my problem.
DBS anime is a fan service series that delivers irrelevant dialogue, inconsistent writing, and lazy designs.
The DB manga never had so many mistakes, nor those were this constant.
The DB manga never had so many mistakes, nor those were this constant.
Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Damn i missed that music!! It reminds me of the best era the dragon ball fandom has ever known.. The Battle Of Gods movie with Lord Beerus! 2012, 2013 was the most hyped i’ve ever been. And Sumitomo was at his very best in the BoG movie!DainIronfoot wrote:Apologies if this was posted before but I saw lots of lovely images from the Dragon Ball Skytree event and in addition to those images (where we also got all those new design) there was a little bit of animation shown as well. It looked beautiful to me
https://youtu.be/V92deZdy_yY
Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
We know the arms are wrong and so is the lack of Freeza force armor on him. He's also got a scouter on when he blows up planet Vegeta which also wasn't a thing in the manga, therefore its an inconsistency. I don't get why this is an issue to admit.PFM18 wrote:we have no indication that they are these ageless beings that are impervious to natural aging like everyone else. Therefore, we assume that they age normally like everyone else, and 40+ years is a long time to be aging. I don't see any issue with a much younger Freeza looking different. I mean, we don't have much indication either way, so it doesn't contradict anything that he has brighter colors and looks younger. Besides, we literally only have 1 panel of that flashback in the original manga where we see this Freeza blowing up Vegeta so we can barely even draw any conclusions about what he looked back then in the original work too.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Both that one panel from the original manga and Minus as a whole show Freeza looking the same way as he looks now, and while I'm not gonna say he's ageless, he could just age much better than humans, kinda like saiyans stay on their prime until around 80 years, so Freeza looking the same from the Minus era and now isn't far fetched, and it's a weird retcon to suddenly decide that Freeza needs to look younger in that era when, again, Minus didn't do so.PFM18 wrote:we have no indication that they are these ageless beings that are impervious to natural aging like everyone else. Therefore, we assume that they age normally like everyone else, and 40+ years is a long time to be aging. I don't see any issue with a much younger Freeza looking different. I mean, we don't have much indication either way, so it doesn't contradict anything that he has brighter colors and looks younger. Besides, we literally only have 1 panel of that flashback in the original manga where we see this Freeza blowing up Vegeta so we can barely even draw any conclusions about what he looked back then in the original work too.Noah wrote:What? Why it would be stupid? We don't know jack about Freeza's race than they were mutant people that has tons of transformations to hold their power. If it was dropped before that's an actual trait of young "Frost demons", I would be fine with that, but no, it was just out of nowhere.PFM18 wrote:
...yeah that was a Freeza from 40+ years ago. It isn't particularly unreasonable to think Freeza looked different such a long time ago. In fact, it would be stupid if he DIDN'T look different.
jjgp1112 wrote: Sat Mar 12, 2022 12:08 am My man, all Goku had to do was go SSJ3 and shock Vegeta so much the M on his head would have turned into an L and Buu would have never happened.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Keep Shintani in the movies and replace Yamamuro with Takahashi for TV series would be a dream to me. Or just let Takahashi take over everything.JulieYBM wrote:The worst case scenario is that Yamamuro continues to be the character designer of the TV series while Shintani only works on the films, like Hisada Kazuya and Satou Masayuki currently do for One Piece.

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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Is there any official announcement or confirmation regarding Home release in japan? I searched quite a bit but couldn't find anything. Both BOG and Fukkatsu F had 7 month gap between theatrical and Home release so it must be June i guess.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
Outside of aesthetic changes (like pink colored skin) how exactly does Freeza look younger in the Minus part of the movie
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We have had angular designs for over 3 decades now, let's move on to more fresh territories, Shintani designs should be the go to for both TV and movies.FortuneSSJ wrote: Keep Shintani in the movies and replace Yamamuro with Takahashi for TV series would be a dream to me. Or just let Takahashi take over everything.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
The more I think about it the more I feel that pinky boy Frieza is just going to be a fresh new design for his first form in general. He looks like the only Minus-era character to get a revised design with the armor and arm stripes being dropped. Frieza is obviously a few decades younger here but I'm not sure that has anything to do with the design changes since Cold also got a few changes from his traditional look. Now Frieza looks just like him, only tiny and pink (and smaller horns).Lukmendes wrote: Both that one panel from the original manga and Minus as a whole show Freeza looking the same way as he looks now, and while I'm not gonna say he's ageless, he could just age much better than humans, kinda like saiyans stay on their prime until around 80 years, so Freeza looking the same from the Minus era and now isn't far fetched, and it's a weird retcon to suddenly decide that Freeza needs to look younger in that era when, again, Minus didn't do so.
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Did I say that? You've projected that onto me because it's an idea you view as easier to rebut, but I don't actually believe that, and at no point have I said that would be a good idea. UI needs better color coordination, but you're trying to pin something on me that I haven't said.Melkaniator wrote: Yes, Goku should have all the colors in his attire that his hair can turn into...
...nice logic.
Yet again you feel the need to act as if the people who disagree with you are somehow wrong in the head.Melkaniator wrote:Oh, so, that's how your mind works, interesting to say the least.
And you really somehow don't get why I call you condescending. You've moved to gaslighting now just because you don't want to be called out onprevious behavior. You know that if you'd just been like "it looks bad I don't like this" nobody would've cared right? But you took the time to also add a little "man, these fucking people whose taste this appeals to, UGH". You didn't think anyone would take issue with that?Melkaniator wrote: My opinion doesn't mean "everyone else's wrong" and it's not to be taking so ridiculously personal, but if you can't control it, I can't expect anything else I guess.
Also "taking this personally", what do you think this is? Discussion and discourse is something I'm constantly a part of, this is just another monday morning.
Yeah but it's not though. The art in the movie isn't drawn by the people who draw the cards. They're based on Shintani's designs, but besides the fact that those would make them better if anything, that's not actually a factor to whether the people drawing that art are actually involved with the film production, nor does it affect the quality of that film.Melkaniator wrote: It's as the Broly movie's art, which is why it looks inferior.
Yet more gaslighting. You know tons of people share your opinions. Notice as well how none of them have fought to say "It's only my opinion so that justifies being disrespectful", because they didn't deride those who disagreed from the start.Melkaniator wrote: You don't need to agree, and I'm not trying to convince you, but since you see all of this as me attacking everyone else's opinion on this movie, yeah, let's make it an infinite argument.
I don't owe you that in the slightest, and it's still irrelevant when in the exact same post you pass the dissenting opinion off as "imagine being this dude lol". TheMelkaniator wrote:YOU responded to a post where that was already in it, might as well read the whole thing if you're responding to it.
'it's just my opinion" defense doesn't work when you act like a prick at the same time.
Yeah and that'd be real nice except you've pretty fucking obviously condescended to me this whole time. Saying "no I haven't you're lying" like a child isn't going to get you anywhere.Melkaniator wrote: If it's not there, then it's only on your head, It's beyond obvious.
As there's no such intention from my part, it can only be you feeling inferior, thus again, I inform you, it's on you, not my problem.
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Melkaniator, you're done here. Enough. Pack it up.
And by proxy, Shaddy, you're equally done with them.
And by proxy, Shaddy, you're equally done with them.
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Re: Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie Thread: "Broly"
What countries has been confirmed for then?
Japan, America, UK....where else?
Japan, America, UK....where else?