Why didn't goku use ss3 vs Beerus in BoG after the god ritual?

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Why didn't goku use ss3 vs Beerus in BoG after the god ritual?

Post by RecolorSaiyan » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:07 pm

When he figured out that he had retained the power of ssg even after losing the form, why not go to his strongest form?

Wouldn't ss3 > ss(post god retained)? If he couldn't get any stronger than then why do we see him using ss2 and ss3 in arcs after BoG?

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Re: Why didn't goku use ss3 vs Beerus in BoG after the god ritual?

Post by SSJgogeto » Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:42 pm

In my headcanon he was using a transformation called "Chou Super Saiyan", but I want to know if there are other theories about the subject.

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Re: Why didn't goku use ss3 vs Beerus in BoG after the god ritual?

Post by PFM18 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:10 pm

RecolorSaiyan wrote:When he figured out that he had retained the power of ssg even after losing the form, why not go to his strongest form?

Wouldn't ss3 > ss(post god retained)? If he couldn't get any stronger than then why do we see him using ss2 and ss3 in arcs after BoG?
Because Toriyama didn't think of that

I can't really think of an In-Universe reason why, but even if he did use SSJ3 in that scene, he still would have gotten his ass kicked so it doesn't really matter.

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Re: Why didn't goku use ss3 vs Beerus in BoG after the god ritual?

Post by RecolorSaiyan » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:26 pm

PFM18 wrote:
RecolorSaiyan wrote:When he figured out that he had retained the power of ssg even after losing the form, why not go to his strongest form?

Wouldn't ss3 > ss(post god retained)? If he couldn't get any stronger than then why do we see him using ss2 and ss3 in arcs after BoG?
Because Toriyama didn't think of that

I can't really think of an In-Universe reason why, but even if he did use SSJ3 in that scene, he still would have gotten his ass kicked so it doesn't really matter.

In the anime, yes. However in the movie, beerus was pushed to nearly 70% as is. Going ssj2 should have put goku above him

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Re: Why didn't goku use ss3 vs Beerus in BoG after the god ritual?

Post by PFM18 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:27 pm

RecolorSaiyan wrote:
PFM18 wrote:
RecolorSaiyan wrote:When he figured out that he had retained the power of ssg even after losing the form, why not go to his strongest form?

Wouldn't ss3 > ss(post god retained)? If he couldn't get any stronger than then why do we see him using ss2 and ss3 in arcs after BoG?
Because Toriyama didn't think of that

I can't really think of an In-Universe reason why, but even if he did use SSJ3 in that scene, he still would have gotten his ass kicked so it doesn't really matter.

In the anime, yes. However in the movie, beerus was pushed to nearly 70% as is. Going ssj2 should have put goku above him
Right but I thought we were talking about Super.

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Re: Why didn't goku use ss3 vs Beerus in BoG after the god ritual?

Post by Ssjcell » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:31 pm

Well I would think the strain of ss3 would put him at a disadvantage if beerus could hold him off for a while .

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Re: Why didn't goku use ss3 vs Beerus in BoG after the god ritual?

Post by RecolorSaiyan » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:34 pm

PFM18 wrote:
RecolorSaiyan wrote:
PFM18 wrote:
Because Toriyama didn't think of that

I can't really think of an In-Universe reason why, but even if he did use SSJ3 in that scene, he still would have gotten his ass kicked so it doesn't really matter.

In the anime, yes. However in the movie, beerus was pushed to nearly 70% as is. Going ssj2 should have put goku above him
Right but I thought we were talking about Super.

Its for both, it still works in Super since goku didn't know how much beerus was holding back. Just makes no sense he wouldn't go FP

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Re: Why didn't goku use ss3 vs Beerus in BoG after the god ritual?

Post by PFM18 » Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:50 pm

RecolorSaiyan wrote:
PFM18 wrote:
RecolorSaiyan wrote:

In the anime, yes. However in the movie, beerus was pushed to nearly 70% as is. Going ssj2 should have put goku above him
Right but I thought we were talking about Super.

Its for both, it still works in Super since goku didn't know how much beerus was holding back. Just makes no sense he wouldn't go FP
Yeah I really don't know. It doesn't make much sense.

Maybe given his stamina only his FPSSJ state was going to be able to endure things?

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Re: Why didn't goku use ss3 vs Beerus in BoG after the god ritual?

Post by AvatarReiko » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:53 pm

Plot hole. Head Canon is that using SS2 and SS3 conjunction with the god forms will put strain but that has never been stated the story

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