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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Ssjcell » Fri Nov 23, 2018 12:33 am

Base Saiyans by the cell games are way more powerful than namek frieza just if you consider context in the manga and anime it's there I mean ss2 Goku fights with kid Buu and Kuririn and yamcha are above pikkon

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:09 pm

ABED wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:
MasenkoHA wrote:Funny enough in my opinion with Kai Funimation got rid of MOST of the worst ones (Nadolny, Vollmer, and Young).

Mcfarland is okay in my opinion. The ones I wanted to see go

Eric Vale as Trunks

Sean Schemmel as King King

Sonny Strait as Krillin (he still sounds like fucking Jimbo from South Park)

Chris Sabat as Piccolo (it’s waaaay better than even his remastered Z dub era Piccolo but it still sounds too close to Vegeta. Wish they could have gotten Scott Mcneil)


Everyone else was fine
I don't know why, but this made me laugh. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
His Vegeta and Piccolo sound like they have the same actor, but they definitely sound like two distinct characters

Strait's Kuririn does NOT sound like Jimbo at all, at least hasn't for well over a decade. In fact, it's more or less his natural voice. He intentionally depened it for that reason

I agree about Schemmel's Goku, but don't agree about McFarland.

Vale would be fine if he dropped the unnatural rasp.
You mean King Kai.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:45 pm

Don't tell me what I mean... just kidding. Yeah, I absolutely agree about his Kaio-sama. It's attrocious and it doesn't matter how good an actor he could become, that voice is unsalvagable.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by MasenkoHA » Fri Nov 23, 2018 1:53 pm

Probably because it never stopped being a piss poor imitation of David Ward’s King Kai :lol:

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by 8000 Saiyan » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:04 pm

MasenkoHA wrote:Probably because it never stopped being a piss poor imitation of David Ward’s King Kai :lol:
It's Don Brown who voiced Ocean King Kai. Dave Ward voiced Ox-King.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Robo4900 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:36 pm

TBH, when doing Kai, Funimation really should have just done what Ocean did, and re-audition everyone, being totally unafraid of recasting anybody in any role.
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Post by PFM18 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:14 pm

Ssjcell wrote:Base Saiyans by the cell games are way more powerful than namek frieza just if you consider context in the manga and anime it's there I mean ss2 Goku fights with kid Buu and Kuririn and yamcha are above pikkon
That's all anime filler. SSJ2 Goku vs Kid Buu, Kururin and Yamcha and their portrayal, it isn't relevant to the actual continuity because it is just filler.

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Post by Ssjcell » Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:45 pm

PFM18 wrote:
Ssjcell wrote:Base Saiyans by the cell games are way more powerful than namek frieza just if you consider context in the manga and anime it's there I mean ss2 Goku fights with kid Buu and Kuririn and yamcha are above pikkon
That's all anime filler. SSJ2 Goku vs Kid Buu, Kururin and Yamcha and their portrayal, it isn't relevant to the actual continuity because it is just filler.
I know but it's good filler that's what toei wanted I feel like AT approves all filler there's other examples I haven't list (I've mentioned it in another recent post in the in universe section)

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Post by RecolorSaiyan » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:58 pm

A lot(not all) of gohan fans hate vegeta not because of the character he is but more so because gohan lost all relevance in this franchise while vegeta gets to stay highly relevant. its misplaced anger/jealousy over another character "taking his role"

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Post by PFM18 » Tue Nov 27, 2018 11:02 pm

Ssjcell wrote:
PFM18 wrote:
Ssjcell wrote:Base Saiyans by the cell games are way more powerful than namek frieza just if you consider context in the manga and anime it's there I mean ss2 Goku fights with kid Buu and Kuririn and yamcha are above pikkon
That's all anime filler. SSJ2 Goku vs Kid Buu, Kururin and Yamcha and their portrayal, it isn't relevant to the actual continuity because it is just filler.
I know but it's good filler that's what toei wanted I feel like AT approves all filler there's other examples I haven't list (I've mentioned it in another recent post in the in universe section)
No, AT didn't approve Z filler. It is just Toei garbage they threw together that makes no sense whatsoever

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Hulk10 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:29 am

PFM18 wrote:
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PFM18 wrote:
That's all anime filler. SSJ2 Goku vs Kid Buu, Kururin and Yamcha and their portrayal, it isn't relevant to the actual continuity because it is just filler.
I know but it's good filler that's what toei wanted I feel like AT approves all filler there's other examples I haven't list (I've mentioned it in another recent post in the in universe section)
No, AT didn't approve Z filler. It is just Toei garbage they threw together that makes no sense whatsoever
Some of the filler is garbage, some of it is not.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Jackalope89 » Wed Nov 28, 2018 12:32 am

PFM18 wrote:
Ssjcell wrote:
PFM18 wrote:
That's all anime filler. SSJ2 Goku vs Kid Buu, Kururin and Yamcha and their portrayal, it isn't relevant to the actual continuity because it is just filler.
I know but it's good filler that's what toei wanted I feel like AT approves all filler there's other examples I haven't list (I've mentioned it in another recent post in the in universe section)
No, AT didn't approve Z filler. It is just Toei garbage they threw together that makes no sense whatsoever
Goku and Piccolo learning how to drive was awesome!

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Post by ABED » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:52 am

The driving episode is one of the most overrated things in DB.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by MasenkoHA » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:39 am

ABED wrote:The driving episode is one of the most overrated things in DB.
Agreed. It’s not the worst example of filler by any means but it’s not a very good episode and I’m always baffled when fans try to cite this as one of those top notch episodes Kai is missing out on for not having.

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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Mon Dec 03, 2018 6:36 am

The Super dub isn't that bad when you ignore the added jokes. I'm irritated by them as much as the next person but the criticisms that its as bad as what Saban did in the 90s when they were making the characters up as they go along are a bit much.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by MasenkoHA » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:37 am

Dragon Ball Ireland wrote: but the criticisms that its as bad as what Funimation did in the 90s when they were making the characters up as they go along are a bit much.

Fixed it for you. Saban was not writing the scripts. Funimation was producing the show and writing the scripts. All Saban did was get the show on tv and told Funimation what they weren’t allowed to do as well as produce a new score per Funimation’s request

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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:17 am

MasenkoHA wrote:
Dragon Ball Ireland wrote: but the criticisms that its as bad as what Funimation did in the 90s when they were making the characters up as they go along are a bit much.

Fixed it for you. Saban was not writing the scripts. Funimation was producing the show and writing the scripts. All Saban did was get the show on tv and told Funimation what they weren’t allowed to do as well as produce a new score per Funimation’s request
Your right, production was all Funimation. Regardless their scripts now are still far superior to what they wrote back then.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by MasenkoHA » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:34 am

Probably helps they get actual translations and Barry Watson and Christopher Neel are no longer with the company :lol:

At least from what I understand they used to get horribly translated scripts from Toei.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Tian » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:17 pm

MasenkoHA wrote: At least from what I understand they used to get horribly translated scripts from Toei.
You mean the Engrish scripts from Toei? The ones that have atrocious quality?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Jackalope89 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 1:26 pm

In all honesty, back then, a lot of anime had some bad translations or outright changes. Some, simply products of the time. Others, made you wonder WHY it was made (an episode of Pokemon called a riceball a doughnut, of all things).

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